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Post by baselswh on Apr 8, 2022 6:27:39 GMT
The 'non dom' tax thing,a fair or unfair law?
Also, Rishis' wife Akshata is non dom,no laws broken ,but for many who are perhaps seriously struggling to eat , keep warm and therefore healthy seeing her husband and our Chancellor make the rules that has contributed to their hard time,is difficult to take.
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Post by Nobbygas on Apr 8, 2022 6:37:48 GMT
The whole story is a farce, which the media are fuelling. I live and work in Germany. Should I pay tax on my German income in the UK? Of course not. I do pay UK tax on my UK income. This is all quite normal.
There is a war going on in Europe, yet the UK media and political opposition think it is a good game to attempt to attack a politician through his wife FFS.
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Post by baselswh on Apr 8, 2022 6:58:38 GMT
The whole story is a farce, which the media are fuelling. I live and work in Germany. Should I pay tax on my German income in the UK? Of course not. I do pay UK tax on my UK income. This is all quite normal. There is a war going on in Europe, yet the UK media and political opposition think it is a good game to attempt to attack a politician through his wife FFS. It's certainly in the media. The war is too of course.The length of time UK red tape is taking to get refugee families to shelter in the UK with some painfully awkward rules.Single people apparently get through relatively quickly. The murder and torture. Ukraines need of weaponry. Etc. However,there is a real fear here too for many.How to keep warm and fed.This exists. I agree you should only pay tax in the country you earn in.As you do Nobby. I'm really not up on financial matters on a national scale and how banks work etc (this is why I opened the thread with questions),but I did look up how long the non domicile tax system has been law.Centuries apparently.1799,William Pitt the Younger. So i assume Labour Goverments have either chosen to leave it alone or been too nervous to dare go against it.
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Post by Nobbygas on Apr 8, 2022 9:31:41 GMT
The whole story is a farce, which the media are fuelling. I live and work in Germany. Should I pay tax on my German income in the UK? Of course not. I do pay UK tax on my UK income. This is all quite normal. There is a war going on in Europe, yet the UK media and political opposition think it is a good game to attempt to attack a politician through his wife FFS. It's certainly in the media. The war is too of course.The length of time UK red tape is taking to get refugee families to shelter in the UK with some painfully awkward rules.Single people apparently get through relatively quickly. The murder and torture. Ukraines need of weaponry. Etc. However,there is a real fear here too for many.How to keep warm and fed.This exists. I agree you should only pay tax in the country you earn in.As you do Nobby. I'm really not up on financial matters on a national scale and how banks work etc (this is why I opened the thread with questions),but I did look up how long the non domicile tax system has been law.Centuries apparently.1799,William Pitt the Younger. So i assume Labour Goverments have either chosen to leave it alone or been too nervous to dare go against it. The rising energy bills are the same here. My wife has even started to apply a little bit of pressure over my aquarium. It used to cost approx. 100 quid a month in electricity to run. That has gone up to around 200 quid a month. We are looking at things like solar panels, small wind turbines on the roof etc to reduce the energy bill in the house. As for the red tape in the UK regarding Ukraine refugees I think it is just another pointer that the Civil Service is just not fit for purpose. We all saw the shocking reaction the Foreign Office produced over the Afghan withdrawal. Now, it's the Home Office. The media point the finger at the politicians, but the real problems are with the Civil Service.
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Post by lostinspace on Apr 8, 2022 9:43:10 GMT
It's certainly in the media. The war is too of course.The length of time UK red tape is taking to get refugee families to shelter in the UK with some painfully awkward rules.Single people apparently get through relatively quickly. The murder and torture. Ukraines need of weaponry. Etc. However,there is a real fear here too for many.How to keep warm and fed.This exists. I agree you should only pay tax in the country you earn in.As you do Nobby. I'm really not up on financial matters on a national scale and how banks work etc (this is why I opened the thread with questions),but I did look up how long the non domicile tax system has been law.Centuries apparently.1799,William Pitt the Younger. So i assume Labour Goverments have either chosen to leave it alone or been too nervous to dare go against it. The rising energy bills are the same here. My wife has even started to apply a little bit of pressure over my aquarium. It used to cost approx. 100 quid a month in electricity to run. That has gone up to around 200 quid a month. We are looking at things like solar panels, small wind turbines on the roof etc to reduce the energy bill in the house. As for the red tape in the UK regarding Ukraine refugees I think it is just another pointer that the Civil Service is just not fit for purpose. We all saw the shocking reaction the Foreign Office produced over the Afghan withdrawal. Now, it's the Home Office. The media point the finger at the politicians, but the real problems are with the Civil Service. No exquisite fish on the menu yet then ๐ ๐ ๐ก ๐คญ.....re the CS and FO,I think over the years these departments have always been found wanting when they are actually needed to get their asses in gear,no matter what party are in government
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Post by oldie on Apr 8, 2022 9:49:18 GMT
The politics of jealousy are so rancid. As long as the law is not broken, I do not see what the issue is. As far as I understand it the lady in question is not allowed dual nationality under Indian law, but is married to a Brit and lives here as a non Dom. It is our government that dictates tax law in the UK and our tax law states you do not have to pay tax on income generated outside of the UK if you are non Dom. (There is a lot of "Laffer Curve" arguments for this arrangement which TWD would be shouting about if he was here)
There is broader point of wealthy non Dom's distorting our housing and other asset markets with non UK earned and taxed incomes, read Russians, but that is a broader point of about our financial services sector.
You could, should, question the judgement of a minister who has executive authority over rules where he is directly a beneficiary, which is where Parliament comes in. Although some on here would claim that's anti democratic๐ค
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Post by lostinspace on Apr 8, 2022 10:12:32 GMT
The politics of jealousy are so rancid. As long as the law is not broken, I do not see what the issue is. As far as I understand it the lady in question is not allowed dual nationality under Indian law, but is married to a Brit and lives here as a non Dom. It is our government that dictates tax law in the UK and our tax law states you do not have to pay tax on income generated outside of the UK if you are non Dom. (There is a lot of "Laffer Curve" arguments for this arrangement which TWD would be shouting about if he was here) There is broader point of wealthy non Dom's distorting our housing and other asset markets with non UK earned and taxed incomes, read Russians, but that is a broader point of about our financial services sector. You could, should, question the judgement of a minister who has executive authority over rules where he is directly a beneficiary, which is where Parliament comes in. Not taking sides,but in your last paragraph, would that then mean you would have to pre empt your partners origins and possible status and your own ambitions before any sort of commitment , certainly when it comes to situations like this
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Post by baselswh on Apr 8, 2022 11:07:48 GMT
The politics of jealousy are so rancid. As long as the law is not broken, I do not see what the issue is. As far as I understand it the lady in question is not allowed dual nationality under Indian law, but is married to a Brit and lives here as a non Dom. It is our government that dictates tax law in the UK and our tax law states you do not have to pay tax on income generated outside of the UK if you are non Dom. (There is a lot of "Laffer Curve" arguments for this arrangement which TWD would be shouting about if he was here) There is broader point of wealthy non Dom's distorting our housing and other asset markets with non UK earned and taxed incomes, read Russians, but that is a broader point of about our financial services sector. You could, should, question the judgement of a minister who has executive authority over rules where he is directly a beneficiary, which is where Parliament comes in. Is this usual,that Indian people cannot have dual Indian and British nationality?
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Post by Nobbygas on Apr 8, 2022 11:23:39 GMT
The rising energy bills are the same here. My wife has even started to apply a little bit of pressure over my aquarium. It used to cost approx. 100 quid a month in electricity to run. That has gone up to around 200 quid a month. We are looking at things like solar panels, small wind turbines on the roof etc to reduce the energy bill in the house. As for the red tape in the UK regarding Ukraine refugees I think it is just another pointer that the Civil Service is just not fit for purpose. We all saw the shocking reaction the Foreign Office produced over the Afghan withdrawal. Now, it's the Home Office. The media point the finger at the politicians, but the real problems are with the Civil Service. No exquisite fish on the menu yet then ๐ ๐ ๐ก ๐คญ.....re the CS and FO,I think over the years these departments have always been found wanting when they are actually needed to get their asses in gear,no matter what party are in government I'd eat the wife before I'd eat the fish !
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Post by lostinspace on Apr 8, 2022 12:18:43 GMT
No exquisite fish on the menu yet then ๐ ๐ ๐ก ๐คญ.....re the CS and FO,I think over the years these departments have always been found wanting when they are actually needed to get their asses in gear,no matter what party are in government I'd eat the wife before I'd eat the fish ! Brown sauce?
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Post by oldie on Apr 8, 2022 12:59:57 GMT
The politics of jealousy are so rancid. As long as the law is not broken, I do not see what the issue is. As far as I understand it the lady in question is not allowed dual nationality under Indian law, but is married to a Brit and lives here as a non Dom. It is our government that dictates tax law in the UK and our tax law states you do not have to pay tax on income generated outside of the UK if you are non Dom. (There is a lot of "Laffer Curve" arguments for this arrangement which TWD would be shouting about if he was here) There is broader point of wealthy non Dom's distorting our housing and other asset markets with non UK earned and taxed incomes, read Russians, but that is a broader point of about our financial services sector. You could, should, question the judgement of a minister who has executive authority over rules where he is directly a beneficiary, which is where Parliament comes in. Is this usual,that Indian people cannot have dual Indian and British nationality? It's not down to the UK, it's the choice of the country of origin
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Post by baselswh on Apr 8, 2022 13:25:12 GMT
It's certainly in the media. The war is too of course.The length of time UK red tape is taking to get refugee families to shelter in the UK with some painfully awkward rules.Single people apparently get through relatively quickly. The murder and torture. Ukraines need of weaponry. Etc. However,there is a real fear here too for many.How to keep warm and fed.This exists. I agree you should only pay tax in the country you earn in.As you do Nobby. I'm really not up on financial matters on a national scale and how banks work etc (this is why I opened the thread with questions),but I did look up how long the non domicile tax system has been law.Centuries apparently.1799,William Pitt the Younger. So i assume Labour Goverments have either chosen to leave it alone or been too nervous to dare go against it. The rising energy bills are the same here. My wife has even started to apply a little bit of pressure over my aquarium. It used to cost approx. 100 quid a month in electricity to run. That has gone up to around 200 quid a month. We are looking at things like solar panels, small wind turbines on the roof etc to reduce the energy bill in the house. As for the red tape in the UK regarding Ukraine refugees I think it is just another pointer that the Civil Service is just not fit for purpose. We all saw the shocking reaction the Foreign Office produced over the Afghan withdrawal. Now, it's the Home Office. The media point the finger at the politicians, but the real problems are with the Civil Service. The Civl Service do seem a thorough disappointment.Bloody useless.
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Post by One F in Dunford on Apr 8, 2022 15:01:02 GMT
The rising energy bills are the same here. My wife has even started to apply a little bit of pressure over my aquarium. It used to cost approx. 100 quid a month in electricity to run. That has gone up to around 200 quid a month. We are looking at things like solar panels, small wind turbines on the roof etc to reduce the energy bill in the house. As for the red tape in the UK regarding Ukraine refugees I think it is just another pointer that the Civil Service is just not fit for purpose. We all saw the shocking reaction the Foreign Office produced over the Afghan withdrawal. Now, it's the Home Office. The media point the finger at the politicians, but the real problems are with the Civil Service. The Civl Service do seem a thorough disappointment.Bloody useless. I would describe The Civil Service as like The NHS. A lot of good hard workers, but the directions from The Senior Civil Servants and Junior Ministers is Bloody Useless.
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Post by baselswh on Apr 9, 2022 6:54:35 GMT
Well.
Akshata has decided to pay UK tax on her international earnings.
She does'nt want her financial life to interfere with her blokes job.
I take it this is confirmation Rishi has his eye on number 10.
I wonder how many non doms and those with non dom partners in Parliament (if any), on hearing this news thought, 'oh bugger'.
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