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Post by lostinspace on Mar 21, 2022 18:21:06 GMT
So apart from the oil and gas we were supplied with from the idiots country, what else was of big market value that the UK and others have refused to stop buying ... and COULD that be sourced from elsewhere.. then IF the red s become "sociable" again does everybody jump back in "because" it was always there?
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Post by Nobbygas on Mar 21, 2022 20:32:04 GMT
Apparently, if the UK used just 10% of the gas available from fracking, that would be enough gas for the next 50 years!
Get fracking.
The UK only imports a small amount of oil from Russia. That will be available elsewhere.
I cannot see Russia being allowed back into the real world for another 50 years. Ukraine will never forget for at least 100 years.
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Post by oldie on Mar 22, 2022 3:32:20 GMT
Wait for it.
Odds on Iran and / or Venezuela being "friendly" again.
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Post by baselswh on Mar 22, 2022 7:23:12 GMT
Apparently, if the UK used just 10% of the gas available from fracking, that would be enough gas for the next 50 years! Get fracking. The UK only imports a small amount of oil from Russia. That will be available elsewhere. I cannot see Russia being allowed back into the real world for another 50 years. Ukraine will never forget for at least 100 years. Do you know if we could get this 50 year supply from one place or would it be a number of places? I think it sounds a good idea gives us a supply and time. |
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Post by Nobbygas on Mar 22, 2022 10:00:20 GMT
Apparently, if the UK used just 10% of the gas available from fracking, that would be enough gas for the next 50 years! Get fracking. The UK only imports a small amount of oil from Russia. That will be available elsewhere. I cannot see Russia being allowed back into the real world for another 50 years. Ukraine will never forget for at least 100 years. Do you know if we could get this 50 year supply from one place or would it be a number of places? I think it sounds a good idea gives us a supply and time. These figures are from just the one area, in the North West, in the Blackpool region. There are other areas as well, like Scotland and the Wessex region that hold huge shale gas deposits. |
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Post by lostinspace on Mar 22, 2022 11:43:00 GMT
Wait for it. Odds on Iran and / or Venezuela being "friendly" again. now that Iran have been paid off....that was obvious surely!!!.......maybe there is something happening to disrupt other sources, not sure? |
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Post by lostinspace on Mar 22, 2022 11:48:30 GMT
Apparently, if the UK used just 10% of the gas available from fracking, that would be enough gas for the next 50 years! Get fracking. The UK only imports a small amount of oil from Russia. That will be available elsewhere. I cannot see Russia being allowed back into the real world for another 50 years. Ukraine will never forget for at least 100 years. So if, as expected other countries like us begin to resource their oil from Iran again, would you think that this may also involve RN type cover? to avoid a possible "foriegn body" attack on oil tankers as with the Atlantic convoys in WW2 |
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Post by baselswh on Mar 22, 2022 12:30:44 GMT
Do you know if we could get this 50 year supply from one place or would it be a number of places? I think it sounds a good idea gives us a supply and time. These figures are from just the one area, in the North West, in the Blackpool region. There are other areas as well, like Scotland and the Wessex region that hold huge shale gas deposits. I would have to listen to alternatives,but this sounds a serious option these days. |
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Post by Nobbygas on Mar 22, 2022 12:53:47 GMT
Wait for it. Odds on Iran and / or Venezuela being "friendly" again. now that Iran have been paid off....that was obvious surely!!!.......maybe there is something happening to disrupt other sources, not sure? It appears to be the EU that are interested in Iranian oil, tied in with the non-nuclear deal currently being negotiated. |
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Post by Nobbygas on Mar 22, 2022 12:59:22 GMT
Apparently, if the UK used just 10% of the gas available from fracking, that would be enough gas for the next 50 years! Get fracking. The UK only imports a small amount of oil from Russia. That will be available elsewhere. I cannot see Russia being allowed back into the real world for another 50 years. Ukraine will never forget for at least 100 years. So if, as expected other countries like us begin to resource their oil from Iran again, would you think that this may also involve RN type cover? to avoid a possible "foriegn body" attack on oil tankers as with the Atlantic convoys in WW2 The Royal Navy currently always have a ship on station in the Gulf to protect shipping.
"The Royal Navy and Royal Fleet Auxiliary maintain a conspicuous presence in the Gulf, consisting of helicopters, dock landing ships, and a permanent mine countermeasures squadron.
There is typically at least one escort, supported by a tanker of the Royal Fleet Auxiliary, employed by UK Maritime Component Command (UKMCC) on Maritime Security patrol, plus a four-strong squadron of minehunters with a Royal Fleet Auxiliary support ship at notice within the operational area.
The United Kingdom Component Command, located in Bahrain, is the command element of Operation Kipion. The UKMCC exercises command and control of the various Royal Navy and Royal Fleet Auxiliary ships in the region."
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Post by lostinspace on Mar 22, 2022 14:47:29 GMT
So if, as expected other countries like us begin to resource their oil from Iran again, would you think that this may also involve RN type cover? to avoid a possible "foriegn body" attack on oil tankers as with the Atlantic convoys in WW2 The Royal Navy currently always have a ship on station in the Gulf to protect shipping.
"The Royal Navy and Royal Fleet Auxiliary maintain a conspicuous presence in the Gulf, consisting of helicopters, dock landing ships, and a permanent mine countermeasures squadron.
There is typically at least one escort, supported by a tanker of the Royal Fleet Auxiliary, employed by UK Maritime Component Command (UKMCC) on Maritime Security patrol, plus a four-strong squadron of minehunters with a Royal Fleet Auxiliary support ship at notice within the operational area.
The United Kingdom Component Command, located in Bahrain, is the command element of Operation Kipion. The UKMCC exercises command and control of the various Royal Navy and Royal Fleet Auxiliary ships in the region."
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Post by oldie on Mar 22, 2022 14:53:38 GMT
now that Iran have been paid off....that was obvious surely!!!.......maybe there is something happening to disrupt other sources, not sure? It appears to be the EU that are interested in Iranian oil, tied in with the non-nuclear deal currently being negotiated. And the Revolutionary Guard are now oh so friendly. Principles eh, who would have them. I hope that Iran now gets all the sanctions lifted. It's been devastating for the population. |
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Post by Nobbygas on Mar 22, 2022 15:08:46 GMT
It appears to be the EU that are interested in Iranian oil, tied in with the non-nuclear deal currently being negotiated. And the Revolutionary Guard are now oh so friendly. Principles eh, who would have them. I hope that Iran now gets all the sanctions lifted. It's been devastating for the population. I think the world has learnt a lot from this Russia debacle. Never trust or work with a rogue state again. Iran is up there with the rogue states. However, I don't expect the EU to have any morals or backbone. |
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Post by oldie on Mar 22, 2022 15:19:05 GMT
And the Revolutionary Guard are now oh so friendly. Principles eh, who would have them. I hope that Iran now gets all the sanctions lifted. It's been devastating for the population. I think the world has learnt a lot from this Russia debacle. Never trust or work with a rogue state again. Iran is up there with the rogue states. However, I don't expect the EU to have any morals or backbone. Made me laugh. Saudi Arabia anyone? |
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Post by lostinspace on Mar 22, 2022 15:28:47 GMT
And the Revolutionary Guard are now oh so friendly. Principles eh, who would have them. I hope that Iran now gets all the sanctions lifted. It's been devastating for the population. I think the world has learnt a lot from this Russia debacle. Never trust or work with a rogue state again. Iran is up there with the rogue states. However, I don't expect the EU to have any morals or backbone. Idealogy? where it seems one man among others of the same thinking can turn a nation into something that the rest can't trust.... Yeltsin and Gorbachov[sp] seemed to be going down the route where Russia SEEMED to be in a sort of western style thinking in a democratic way ,,, then it all changed and here we are where one man and his imposed power over a nation, has the world verging on the edge of [it won't happen hopefully] WW3 |
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Post by lostinspace on Mar 22, 2022 15:32:17 GMT
I think the world has learnt a lot from this Russia debacle. Never trust or work with a rogue state again. Iran is up there with the rogue states. However, I don't expect the EU to have any morals or backbone. Made me laugh. Saudi Arabia anyone? was that ever a "closed to all " nation, despite their inner workings.and way of life with treating people[which despite being somewhat medeival ] they have worked with most countries for decades quite openly |
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Post by oldie on Mar 22, 2022 17:01:24 GMT
Made me laugh. Saudi Arabia anyone? was that ever a "closed to all " nation, despite their inner workings.and way of life with treating people[which despite being somewhat medeival ] they have worked with most countries for decades quite openly Iran was not a closed nation until the sanctions hit. I visited in 2005. |
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Post by Nobbygas on Mar 22, 2022 17:12:03 GMT
was that ever a "closed to all " nation, despite their inner workings.and way of life with treating people[which despite being somewhat medeival ] they have worked with most countries for decades quite openly Iran was not a closed nation until the sanctions hit. I visited in 2005. I visited Iran in 2002. It was made quite clear to me that I was not welcome. |
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Post by lostinspace on Mar 22, 2022 17:55:56 GMT
was that ever a "closed to all " nation, despite their inner workings.and way of life with treating people[which despite being somewhat medeival ] they have worked with most countries for decades quite openly Iran was not a closed nation until the sanctions hit. I visited in 2005. you quoted Saudi Arabia.... now you've moved campsites..... and i think that Iran even then was shall we say ...not the most inviting places to be,.....open maybe but ..... |
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Post by oldie on Mar 22, 2022 20:53:59 GMT
Iran was not a closed nation until the sanctions hit. I visited in 2005. I visited Iran in 2002. It was made quite clear to me that I was not welcome. I am not surprised. |
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