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Post by lostinspace on Mar 24, 2022 11:11:30 GMT
past history of mine involves where i had a flat tyre on my bike as a result of a puncture ...... i repaired it a lesson on how to do so well learned , now that is a bit of useless historical information for you,and i no longer worry about it, also never needed therapy to get over it,thankfully....... but there iv'e shared it, for those who may read this thread they are also now aware of some of my past history,so enlightening, .....don't think they will be worried about it either.....useless bit of history explained...lesson over
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Post by oldie on Mar 24, 2022 11:53:12 GMT
past history of mine involves where i had a flat tyre on my bike as a result of a puncture ...... i repaired it a lesson on how to do so well learned , now that is a bit of useless historical information for you,and i no longer worry about it, also never needed therapy to get over it,thankfully....... but there iv'e shared it, for those who may read this thread they are also now aware of some of my past history,so enlightening, .....don't think they will be worried about it either.....useless bit of history explained...lesson over Christ 🤭🤭🤭 You ok? |
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Post by Nobbygas on Mar 24, 2022 12:41:11 GMT
Let's not go down that route again. You only believe in a "functioning parliamentary democracy" when it suits your viewpoint! When attempting to overturn the Democratic vote of the British people, you shouted out "functioning Parliamentary Democracy". When that "functioning Parliamentary Democracy" attempts to pass Laws that you don't agree with, you openly support violence on the streets ! Hypocrite. Yes, let's not. Functioning Parliamentary democracy accepts that laws are not infinite. You,on the other hand appear to believe that they are, and cannot be contested and revoked. Truly the view of the  . The absolutist. Another aspect of democracy, as we practice (with pride) is the right to assemble and protest. The bill currently going through the Houses is an affront, a dilution of that right. So yes, protest against, but never with violence. Isn't it a bit strange though, how you and Alf continuously contaminate every thread with comments about me, personally. This thread is about the current tour in the Caribbean. They were not particularly welcome in Belize and the Jamaicans have told them they plan to be a Republic. The insinuations by you and Basel that it's only because of some malignant elite is laughable. Um....no. I asked a question: "However, will that decision be put to a vote or will it just be enacted upon by the select few at the top?" - Note the question mark at the end. I am questioning as to how the decision to become a Republic will be reached. Nothing laughable about that I think. Also, nobody mentioned a 'malignant elite' except you. Are you making things up again? |
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Post by Nobbygas on Mar 24, 2022 12:43:57 GMT
indeed i do,but wiki is still there for you  History tells me not to bother or worry about some rather useless things in life .......... Give us an example of the lessons of history that are "useless" That depends on who writes the history doesn't it. |
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Post by oldie on Mar 24, 2022 12:52:06 GMT
Yes, let's not. Functioning Parliamentary democracy accepts that laws are not infinite. You,on the other hand appear to believe that they are, and cannot be contested and revoked. Truly the view of the . The absolutist. Another aspect of democracy, as we practice (with pride) is the right to assemble and protest. The bill currently going through the Houses is an affront, a dilution of that right. So yes, protest against, but never with violence. Isn't it a bit strange though, how you and Alf continuously contaminate every thread with comments about me, personally. This thread is about the current tour in the Caribbean. They were not particularly welcome in Belize and the Jamaicans have told them they plan to be a Republic. The insinuations by you and Basel that it's only because of some malignant elite is laughable. Um....no. I asked a question: "However, will that decision be put to a vote or will it just be enacted upon by the select few at the top?" - Note the question mark at the end. I am questioning as to how the decision to become a Republic will be reached. Nothing laughable about that I think. Also, nobody mentioned a 'malignant elite' except you. Are you making things up again? In a functioning democracy, which Jamaica is, how do you think that decision will be reached? Why would you even question it? |
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Post by oldie on Mar 24, 2022 12:54:14 GMT
Give us an example of the lessons of history that are "useless" That depends on who writes the history doesn't it. To a point. Yes. Which is why it's useful to read widely. But the basic facts remain the same, whatever the nuance of "opinion" |
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Post by Nobbygas on Mar 24, 2022 13:16:12 GMT
Um....no. I asked a question: "However, will that decision be put to a vote or will it just be enacted upon by the select few at the top?" - Note the question mark at the end. I am questioning as to how the decision to become a Republic will be reached. Nothing laughable about that I think. Also, nobody mentioned a 'malignant elite' except you. Are you making things up again? In a functioning democracy, which Jamaica is, how do you think that decision will be reached? Why would you even question it? Are you real? |
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Post by oldie on Mar 24, 2022 13:31:36 GMT
In a functioning democracy, which Jamaica is, how do you think that decision will be reached? Why would you even question it? Are you real? I am, much to your chagrin I am sure. So, what do you think? |
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Post by baselswh on Mar 24, 2022 14:34:40 GMT
I assume once 'leaving the Monarchy' becomes a big vote winner,a winning Jamaican political party,once in power,would organise a referendum.
It would be interesting to see it.
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Post by oldie on Mar 24, 2022 14:43:25 GMT
I assume once 'leaving the Monarchy' becomes a big vote winner,a winning Jamaican political party,once in power,would organise a referendum. It would be interesting to see it. Christ 🤭🤭🤭 Another one without a basic understanding of Parliamentary Democracy. |
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Post by baselswh on Mar 24, 2022 14:50:35 GMT
I assume once 'leaving the Monarchy' becomes a big vote winner,a winning Jamaican political party,once in power,would organise a referendum. It would be interesting to see it. Christ 🤭🤭🤭 Another one without a basic understanding of Parliamentary Democracy. Surely they would put it to the people,even if they don't have to? |
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Post by oldie on Mar 24, 2022 15:19:14 GMT
Christ 🤭🤭🤭 Another one without a basic understanding of Parliamentary Democracy. Surely they would put it to the people,even if they don't have to? I am sure they will, either (and most likely) as a party manifesto commitment in a General Election, or if deemed urgent enough through a referendum between elections. Either way it will be democratic vote. As was the referendum here (before you all get to excited). But remember in a Parliamentary democracy it's not forever, and it would not be undemocratic to seek to overturn it, democratically. But like here the consequences are huge and practically irreversible once entered on to the statute book and carried out. So in Jamaica I hope they think it through. Unlike what happened here. Funnily enough a lot of the reasons leavers gave for voting leave are actually true when it comes to the Jamaican experience. Good luck to them. |
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Post by Nobbygas on Mar 24, 2022 15:21:54 GMT
I assume once 'leaving the Monarchy' becomes a big vote winner,a winning Jamaican political party,once in power,would organise a referendum. It would be interesting to see it. Christ 🤭🤭🤭 Another one without a basic understanding of Parliamentary Democracy. I'm pretty sure we all have an understanding of Parliamentary Democracy. I'm also pretty sure that we all understand (apart from you) that in some places those at the top will just do their own thing. We are just wondering which way it will go. What we do know about your views on Parliamentary Democracy is that it is something you shout about when the decision is going in your favour, yet you support violent action on the streets when it isn't ! |
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Post by oldie on Mar 24, 2022 17:14:17 GMT
Christ 🤭🤭🤭 Another one without a basic understanding of Parliamentary Democracy. I'm pretty sure we all have an understanding of Parliamentary Democracy. I'm also pretty sure that we all understand (apart from you) that in some places those at the top will just do their own thing. We are just wondering which way it will go. What we do know about your views on Parliamentary Democracy is that it is something you shout about when the decision is going in your favour, yet you support violent action on the streets when it isn't ! You be sure. All the evidence as expressed on here says the opposite |
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Post by Nobbygas on Mar 24, 2022 17:38:48 GMT
I'm pretty sure we all have an understanding of Parliamentary Democracy. I'm also pretty sure that we all understand (apart from you) that in some places those at the top will just do their own thing. We are just wondering which way it will go. What we do know about your views on Parliamentary Democracy is that it is something you shout about when the decision is going in your favour, yet you support violent action on the streets when it isn't ! You be sure. All the evidence as expressed on here says the opposite The evidence of your own words show that you only support Parliamentary Democracy when it suits you. |
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Post by oldie on Mar 24, 2022 20:14:44 GMT
You be sure. All the evidence as expressed on here says the opposite The evidence of your own words show that you only support Parliamentary Democracy when it suits you. 🤭🤭🤭 What absolute bollox When have I advocated the denial of opinion or action. Go on...shout it loud. |
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Post by oldie on Mar 24, 2022 20:36:23 GMT
Going well for the freeloaders
"Campaigners in the Bahamas have urged the British monarchy to apologise and pay reparations for its role in slavery ahead of Prince William and Kate’s upcoming visit.
The Bahamas National Reparations Committee called for the royal family to atone for its role in the mass trafficking of African people in a strongly worded open letter."
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Christ, why do we have to put up with these absolute clowns.
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Post by baselswh on Mar 24, 2022 20:55:41 GMT
Seems appropriate for this thread.
Lambeth Council are considering changing the name of Tulse Hill and plenty of street names.
The Tulse family made money from slavery.
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Post by lostinspace on Mar 24, 2022 21:29:06 GMT
Going well for the freeloaders "Campaigners in the Bahamas have urged the British monarchy to apologise and pay reparations for its role in slavery ahead of Prince William and Kate’s upcoming visit. The Bahamas National Reparations Committee called for the royal family to atone for its role in the mass trafficking of African people in a strongly worded open letter." 🥲🤭 Christ, why do we have to put up with these absolute clowns. So who you on about now.... Bahamians or Royals 🤔... |
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Post by oldie on Mar 24, 2022 21:40:27 GMT
Seems appropriate for this thread. Lambeth Council are considering changing the name of Tulse Hill and plenty of street names. The Tulse family made money from slavery. Digestive Biscuits. The name, it's an absolute affront.😂😂😂 |
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History tells me not to bother or worry about some rather useless things in life ..........