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Post by baselswh on Mar 19, 2022 9:27:53 GMT
Kate and William have cancelled their first date of a week long tour ,at a village in Belize ,because the villagers don't want them there.
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Post by Nobbygas on Mar 19, 2022 20:18:59 GMT
Funny one that. Some locals complaining about 'colonialism', which is a bit odd because the presence of British troops in Belize for many years has stopped them being attacked by Guatemala.
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Post by baselswh on Mar 19, 2022 20:35:47 GMT
Funny one that. Some locals complaining about 'colonialism', which is a bit odd because the presence of British troops in Belize for many years has stopped them being attacked by Guatemala. Then there's the over £25,000,000 GB sends Belize in aid. |
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Post by oldie on Mar 19, 2022 23:14:13 GMT
None so blind as those who will not see.
Strange how it's always the same people.
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Post by alftupper on Mar 20, 2022 7:25:09 GMT
None so blind as those who will not see. Strange how it's always the same people. Enlighten us. Let the scales fall from our eyes. What is it, we cannot see? |
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Post by oldie on Mar 20, 2022 7:35:26 GMT
None so blind as those who will not see. Strange how it's always the same people. Enlighten us. Let the scales fall from our eyes. What is it, we cannot see? In your case, your hands in front of your face. |
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Post by Nobbygas on Mar 20, 2022 8:12:08 GMT
None so blind as those who will not see. Strange how it's always the same people. Are you suggesting Oldie that we should pull out the troops to let the locals fight it out amongst themselves? We provide protection against possible invaders, and at the same time we get a great training base. ........or is it as always you have zero knowledge of the area and the ongoing political postering of other countries? PS - I've served in Belize. |
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Post by eppinggas on Mar 20, 2022 10:58:36 GMT
None so blind as those who will not see. Strange how it's always the same people. Are you suggesting Oldie that we should pull out the troops to let the locals fight it out amongst themselves? We provide protection against possible invaders, and at the same time we get a great training base. ........or is it as always you have zero knowledge of the area and the ongoing political postering of other countries? PS - I've served in Belize. Aha - I think I've rumbled it. It's an interesting parlour game. Every thread, regardless of content MUST reference either Brexit being a catastrophe, or British colonialism being responsible for all the ills of the world. |
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Post by oldie on Mar 20, 2022 11:26:22 GMT
None so blind as those who will not see. Strange how it's always the same people. Are you suggesting Oldie that we should pull out the troops to let the locals fight it out amongst themselves? We provide protection against possible invaders, and at the same time we get a great training base. ........or is it as always you have zero knowledge of the area and the ongoing political postering of other countries? PS - I've served in Belize. Starting from day zero, why are we there? |
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Post by Nobbygas on Mar 20, 2022 11:48:00 GMT
Are you suggesting Oldie that we should pull out the troops to let the locals fight it out amongst themselves? We provide protection against possible invaders, and at the same time we get a great training base. ........or is it as always you have zero knowledge of the area and the ongoing political postering of other countries? PS - I've served in Belize. Starting from day zero, why are we there? I wasn't alive on 'day zero', so following your logic I cannot possibly comment as my comments would be deemed worthless. So, do we think the UK should stand aside and let Guatemala invade?I Supplying weapons and training to Ukraine before Russia invaded, was that 'colonialism'? |
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Post by oldie on Mar 20, 2022 12:12:07 GMT
Starting from day zero, why are we there? I wasn't alive on 'day zero', so following your logic I cannot possibly comment as my comments would be deemed worthless. So, do we think the UK should stand aside and let Guatemala invade?I Supplying weapons and training to Ukraine before Russia invaded, was that 'colonialism'? Stop being evasive. Let me try and reword it for you. From the outset, why on earth is the UK in Belize? A very simple question. |
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Post by oldie on Mar 20, 2022 13:44:21 GMT
No?
Ok, try this.
"In 1763 Spain in the Treaty of Paris allowed the British settlers to engage in the logwood industry. The British introduced slavery to Belize and imported thousands of slaves from Africa to cut logwood (used at that time to extract a dye) and later mahogany. The inter-marriage between Europeans and their African slaves led to modern day Creoles in Belize."
Well, I never. Who would have thought it.
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Post by Nobbygas on Mar 20, 2022 17:46:44 GMT
Not being evasive, but I live in the current world. 1763 really doesn't have any bearing does it.
I ask again, do you think the British should pull out of Belize and allow Guatemala to invade?
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Post by oldie on Mar 20, 2022 20:00:12 GMT
Not being evasive, but I live in the current world. 1763 really doesn't have any bearing does it. I ask again, do you think the British should pull out of Belize and allow Guatemala to invade? When you went there, did you think you were defending the rights of people to make a free choice? The Guatemalan issue is a direct result of historical factors which you say you pay no heed to. |
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Post by Nobbygas on Mar 20, 2022 20:45:39 GMT
Not being evasive, but I live in the current world. 1763 really doesn't have any bearing does it. I ask again, do you think the British should pull out of Belize and allow Guatemala to invade? When you went there, did you think you were defending the rights of people to make a free choice? The Guatemalan issue is a direct result of historical factors which you say you pay no heed to. Come back when you know what you're talking about. |
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Post by oldie on Mar 20, 2022 21:01:04 GMT
When you went there, did you think you were defending the rights of people to make a free choice? The Guatemalan issue is a direct result of historical factors which you say you pay no heed to. Come back when you know what you're talking about. Ha ha The shield of self denial. It's akin to ignorance. But, heh ho |
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Post by Nobbygas on Mar 20, 2022 22:09:16 GMT
No, you are wrong again. I am not an ignorant person.
Come back when you have some idea as to what you are talking about.
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Post by baselswh on Mar 20, 2022 22:13:37 GMT
The villagers,or at least some of the villagers,that protested against Kate & Will visiting may not represent the majority of Belizians.
I get the impression relations between GB and Belize is pretty good.
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Post by oldie on Mar 20, 2022 22:26:30 GMT
The villagers,or at least some of the villagers,that protested against Kate & Will visiting may not represent the majority of Belizians. I get the impression relations between GB and Belize is pretty good. c=a2+b2 |
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Post by baselswh on Mar 21, 2022 7:40:09 GMT
Apparently....
Plenty of Belizians took the opportunity to get British passports when their country became independent.
There's celebration yearly of a British victory over Spain.Battle of St George Caye.
Maybe Nobby knows of this?
Anyway,we seem to get along okay.
Edit.
It's being reported that now Kate & Wills have been happily dancing with locals at a welcoming Belize village.Doing the Royal thing.
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