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Post by baselswh on Dec 30, 2021 11:08:51 GMT
Apparently 92 convicted terrorists are up for parole next year.
There will be plenty of dangerous lunatics amongst them.
I hope there are no loopholes in our law just waiting to be exploited by their lawyers,allowing these sub humans once again,on our streets.
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Post by oldie on Dec 30, 2021 11:51:44 GMT
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Post by icegas on Dec 30, 2021 15:45:10 GMT
Apparently 92 convicted terrorists are up for parole next year. There will be plenty of dangerous lunatics amongst them. I hope there are no loopholes in our law just waiting to be exploited by their lawyers,allowing these sub humans once again,on our streets. I'm sorry but I might be backward in my way of thinking, but if you are a terrorist, a murderer, a rapist or a career criminal that attacks people for reward then I think we should lock these animals away for life and do science experiments on them instead of on animals like - rats, rabbits or monkeys. I'm sorry when you do such horrible acts,or plan them then it's a mental illness and you are not safe to be on the streets with the rest of us and human rights go out of the window for me. To think, 92 terrorists will be back on our streets soon and looking to kill just because they have "served their time"... It's bollocks.
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Post by baselswh on Dec 30, 2021 15:57:05 GMT
Apparently 92 convicted terrorists are up for parole next year. There will be plenty of dangerous lunatics amongst them. I hope there are no loopholes in our law just waiting to be exploited by their lawyers,allowing these sub humans once again,on our streets. I'm sorry but I might be backward in my way of thinking, but if you are a terrorist, a murderer, a rapist or a career criminal that attacks people for reward then I think we should lock these animals away for life and do science experiments on them instead of on animals like - rats, rabbits or monkeys. I'm sorry when you do such horrible acts,or plan them then it's a mental illness and you are not safe to be on the streets with the rest of us and human rights go out of the window for me. To think, 92 terrorists will be back on our streets soon and looking to kill just because they have "served their time"... It's bollocks. 92 terrorists will get parole hearings Ice,I assume/hope most will be denied release. I think they should serve their full sentence and not be - as terrorists - eligible for parole. It's very difficult to know if a terrorist - a fanatic - has decided to change or not. There have been cases that on being released apparently reformed,they've gone on to reoffend. The slightest of doubt,don't let them out.
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Post by icegas on Dec 30, 2021 16:11:35 GMT
I'm sorry but I might be backward in my way of thinking, but if you are a terrorist, a murderer, a rapist or a career criminal that attacks people for reward then I think we should lock these animals away for life and do science experiments on them instead of on animals like - rats, rabbits or monkeys. I'm sorry when you do such horrible acts,or plan them then it's a mental illness and you are not safe to be on the streets with the rest of us and human rights go out of the window for me. To think, 92 terrorists will be back on our streets soon and looking to kill just because they have "served their time"... It's bollocks. I think they should serve their full sentence and not be - as terrorists - eligible for parole. It's very difficult to know if a terrorist - a fanatic - has decided to change or not. There have been cases that on being released apparently reformed,they've gone on to reoffend. The slightest of doubt,don't let them out. That's the point.These people wanted to kill you or I and would have if they had not had been caught, that in its self is a sickness just like being a Pedophile is. I don't see how they can be trusted to be "reformed" and live freely on any street again in our world. The same goes for any premeditated, violent act.
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Post by eppinggas on Dec 30, 2021 16:29:00 GMT
I'd have to look at each case separately. I think lumping all 92 cases together and treating them effectively as one isn't really very helpful. But given the serious nature of terrorist offences and the problem with rehabilitation of the radicalised, then I'm kind of with basel. If in doubt, don't let them out.
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Post by icegas on Dec 30, 2021 16:35:32 GMT
I'd have to look at each case separately. I think lumping all 92 cases together and treating them effectively as one isn't really very helpful. But given the serious nature of terrorist offences and the problem with rehabilitation of the radicalised, then I'm kind of with basel. If in doubt, don't let them out. I don't think you need look at each case individually at all.Intent to kill or maim another person is an sickness and can't be rehabilitated as it will always be in them.They are all the same.They will never be save within the public. That doubt will always be there.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2022 14:51:09 GMT
I'd have to look at each case separately. I think lumping all 92 cases together and treating them effectively as one isn't really very helpful. But given the serious nature of terrorist offences and the problem with rehabilitation of the radicalised, then I'm kind of with basel. If in doubt, don't let them out. I don't think you need look at each case individually at all.Intent to kill or maim another person is an sickness and can't be rehabilitated as it will always be in them.They are all the same.They will never be save within the public. That doubt will always be there. So I presume you agree with Mandela being sent to prison, and if left to you he would have died behind bars.
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Post by icegas on Jan 6, 2022 15:18:02 GMT
I don't think you need look at each case individually at all.Intent to kill or maim another person is an sickness and can't be rehabilitated as it will always be in them.They are all the same.They will never be save within the public. That doubt will always be there. So I presume you agree with Mandela being sent to prison, and if left to you he would have died behind bars. Not sure on that one to be honest. From what I recall he was trying to overthrow the state. I would need to look into the finer details of his life as I was very young when he was released.
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Post by bluetornados on Jan 6, 2022 15:18:22 GMT
I'd have to look at each case separately. I think lumping all 92 cases together and treating them effectively as one isn't really very helpful. But given the serious nature of terrorist offences and the problem with rehabilitation of the radicalised, then I'm kind of with basel. If in doubt, don't let them out. I don't think you need look at each case individually at all.Intent to kill or maim another person is an sickness and can't be rehabilitated as it will always be in them.They are all the same.They will never be save within the public. That doubt will always be there. IMO if a jury has found these types of murderers guilty then i am in favour of the punishment of lethal injection and rid the world permanently of these evils. When they are proven to be the only people to have committed that crime by e.g DNA testing etc then i am all for the death penalty. When sometimes there is a chance of redemption or some kind of new evidence turning up then lock them up until that day arrives.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2022 16:13:15 GMT
So I presume you agree with Mandela being sent to prison, and if left to you he would have died behind bars. Not sure on that one to be honest. From what I recall he was trying to overthrow the state. I would need to look into the finer details of his life as I was very young when he was released. Have a read up. His political party certainly had a dark side, and sided with a Communist group, which in my opinion is every bit as bad as joining forces with a fascist organisation. Let us know what you decide, freedom fighter or terrorist.
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Post by eppinggas on Jan 8, 2022 10:31:37 GMT
Not sure on that one to be honest. From what I recall he was trying to overthrow the state. I would need to look into the finer details of his life as I was very young when he was released. Have a read up. His political party certainly had a dark side, and sided with a Communist group, which in my opinion is every bit as bad as joining forces with a fascist organisation. Let us know what you decide, freedom fighter or terrorist. The ANC used violence to achieve their aims. When does a 'grubby little terrorist' become a 'shining saintly beacon of hope and a freedom fighter'? An interesting one. Anyway - I'm off to Westminster to find a statue to topple - because unequivocal support of violence, including murder, to achieve political aims offends me. Apparently it's not a criminal offence any more. So that's alright then.
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Post by oldie on Jan 8, 2022 10:42:43 GMT
Have a read up. His political party certainly had a dark side, and sided with a Communist group, which in my opinion is every bit as bad as joining forces with a fascist organisation. Let us know what you decide, freedom fighter or terrorist. The ANC used violence to achieve their aims. When does a 'grubby little terrorist' become a 'shining saintly beacon of hope and a freedom fighter'? An interesting one. Anyway - I'm off to Westminster to find a statue to topple - because unequivocal support of violence, including murder, to achieve political aims offends me. Apparently it's not a criminal offence any more. So that's alright then. Blimey You are going to topple Churchill's statue?
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Post by lostinspace on Jan 8, 2022 11:10:41 GMT
The ANC used violence to achieve their aims. When does a 'grubby little terrorist' become a 'shining saintly beacon of hope and a freedom fighter'? An interesting one. Anyway - I'm off to Westminster to find a statue to topple - because unequivocal support of violence, including murder, to achieve political aims offends me. Apparently it's not a criminal offence any more. So that's alright then. Blimey You are going to topple Churchill's statue? Dare they erect one of Blair and Bush in an embracing position....see how long that one would last...🗽🛫
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2022 11:44:00 GMT
Blimey You are going to topple Churchill's statue? Dare they erect one of Blair and Bush in an embracing position....see how long that one would last...🗽🛫 Sir Tony if you don't mind.
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Post by lostinspace on Jan 8, 2022 12:05:09 GMT
Dare they erect one of Blair and Bush in an embracing position....see how long that one would last...🗽🛫 Sir Tony if you don't mind. Sorry 🤢
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Post by Nobbygas on Jan 8, 2022 13:32:34 GMT
The multi-millionaire Sir Tony and his !ady wife, who claimed 84k of taxpayers money to pay their staff furlough. They really did.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2022 14:50:22 GMT
The multi-millionaire Sir Tony and his !ady wife, who claimed 84k of taxpayers money to pay their staff furlough. They really did. If you are already the most despised individual alive in the United Kingdom, and you know it, you may as well claim, what have you got left to lose? Congratulations to everybody who failed to see through his snake oil sales pitch and voted for him, and his utterly gormless, mouth breathing chancellor.
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Post by icegas on Jan 8, 2022 23:56:41 GMT
The ANC used violence to achieve their aims. When does a 'grubby little terrorist' become a 'shining saintly beacon of hope and a freedom fighter'? An interesting one. Anyway - I'm off to Westminster to find a statue to topple - because unequivocal support of violence, including murder, to achieve political aims offends me. Apparently it's not a criminal offence any more. So that's alright then. Blimey You are going to topple Churchill's statue? Oldie ... just out of interest what's your opinion of Blair becoming a Sir?
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Post by icegas on Jan 8, 2022 23:59:20 GMT
Not sure on that one to be honest. From what I recall he was trying to overthrow the state. I would need to look into the finer details of his life as I was very young when he was released. Have a read up. His political party certainly had a dark side, and sided with a Communist group, which in my opinion is every bit as bad as joining forces with a fascist organisation. Let us know what you decide, freedom fighter or terrorist. I will do. Ive been extremely busy with work and I'm just very tired right now, so won't simply You tube/Wikipedia his full story.
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