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Post by oldie on Dec 7, 2021 21:37:21 GMT
Seems that Jussie has been in court this week and is sticking to his story that he was attacked, he thought at the time by white people, he's reported as repeating the claim about the attackers telling him he was in MAGA country and says that it was only when he got home that he realised that he had a noose around his neck. OK Jussie, let's see what the court make of it all. It's laughable. The guy is a complete tosser. But, highlighting this clown adds nothing to the debate |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2021 23:03:22 GMT
Seems that Jussie has been in court this week and is sticking to his story that he was attacked, he thought at the time by white people, he's reported as repeating the claim about the attackers telling him he was in MAGA country and says that it was only when he got home that he realised that he had a noose around his neck. OK Jussie, let's see what the court make of it all. It's laughable. The guy is a complete tosser. But, highlighting this clown adds nothing to the debate The original point was that the US media believed every word of it, or at least pretended to, and used it to stoke racial tension. It was clearly preposterous, find the Police video of the guy when the Police arrived at his apartment, he's there with what looks like a brand new cloths line wrapped around his neck, it's massive, it must be 20 meters long. As if anybody assaulted in the street wouldn't notice that until they got home that this thing was around their neck and would then choose to keep it there until Police arrive, 7 HOURS after he claims to have been attacked. This is the same media that, despite the verdict and zero evidence to support what they've stated as fact, are still branding Rittenhouse a white supremacist and even after the case had been heard and the facts were known were still not correcting people when they were stating that the shot people in this case were black, they weren't, all 3 were white. No point blaming inequality and prejudice for what's happening there when an awful lot of the tension is being stoked up by people like Smollett and half of the media. In fact, here you go, here he is, making a complete fool of himself, but worse than that, creating division and risking more riots, destruction of property and possibly even death, which people like you always claim has it's origin in inequality. www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-48754989 |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2021 20:16:17 GMT
Jussie may be an idiot, but he fooled Kamala Harris, here's what she had to say about his lies;
The thing that strikes me about the reaction to this is that him making up this hateful stuff about white people simply makes him an 'idiot', imagine the outrage if skin colours were reversed, it would have been symptomatic of how evil and racist everything, the world, the sky, the birds, everything under the sun is.
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Post by oldie on Dec 9, 2021 9:37:09 GMT
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Post by baselswh on Dec 9, 2021 15:07:48 GMT
Another bulls**tter like Mr M.Holding. Olusoga' book "Black and British" eg.Misleading,lies and absolute historical 'fact' howlers.Needs removing from sale but I'm afraid with Guardian reading,arrogant cheerleaders like you about,it'll probably take a few court cases to expose this trouble making nonsense. |
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Post by oldie on Dec 9, 2021 15:43:58 GMT
Another bulls**tter like Mr M.Holding. Olusoga' book "Black and British" eg.Misleading,lies and absolute historical 'fact' howlers.Needs removing from sale but I'm afraid with Guardian reading,arrogant cheerleaders like you about,it'll probably take a few court cases to expose this trouble making nonsense. I would argue the point with you, but you do a damn find job of making yourself sound ridiculous so I will leave you to it. |
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Post by baselswh on Dec 9, 2021 15:47:07 GMT
Another bulls**tter like Mr M.Holding. Olusoga' book "Black and British" eg.Misleading,lies and absolute historical 'fact' howlers.Needs removing from sale but I'm afraid with Guardian reading,arrogant cheerleaders like you about,it'll probably take a few court cases to expose this trouble making nonsense. I would argue the point with you, but you do a damn find job of making yourself sound ridiculous so I will leave you to it. I had no intention of going down your bulls**t route anyway. |
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Post by towngas on Dec 9, 2021 17:40:58 GMT
I’ve just wasted 5minutes of my life reading that pile of stinking horse s**t. Harping back to the slave trade that Britain actually abolished. What a twat. I wonder who washes, polishes and Aleta his car? Perhaps he’d do better to delve into the facts about his local friendly car wash and share the story of that particular piece of modern slavery. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2021 19:50:41 GMT
Back to Jussie. He gets even dafter. He's now said that having his own text messages, from his own phone, messages that he wrote, where he used the word ni**er read out in court is offensive to him. He's got a screw loose somewhere. The prosecutor then made this dingbat read the messages out himself  I'm sure that Harris, CNN and all the rest who supported this lunatic have already drafted their apologies in readiness for his conviction. |
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Post by oldie on Dec 9, 2021 21:27:40 GMT
I’ve just wasted 5minutes of my life reading that pile of stinking horse s**t. Harping back to the slave trade that Britain actually abolished. What a twat. I wonder who washes, polishes and Aleta his car? Perhaps he’d do better to delve into the facts about his local friendly car wash and share the story of that particular piece of modern slavery. Pure, unadulterated nonsense. Is there anything that you can argue which is coherent? |
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Post by icegas on Dec 10, 2021 0:51:14 GMT
I’ve just wasted 5minutes of my life reading that pile of stinking horse s**t. Harping back to the slave trade that Britain actually abolished. What a twat. I wonder who washes, polishes and Aleta his car? Perhaps he’d do better to delve into the facts about his local friendly car wash and share the story of that particular piece of modern slavery. Pure, unadulterated nonsense. Is there anything that you can argue which is coherent? Can you? Also, by using words such as - Unadulterated, or coherent you know that doesn't mean you win a debate,right? I still think Towngas makes a point, do you? Can you answer? |
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Post by oldie on Dec 10, 2021 8:37:39 GMT
I’ve just wasted 5minutes of my life reading that pile of stinking horse s**t. Harping back to the slave trade that Britain actually abolished. What a twat. I wonder who washes, polishes and Aleta his car? Perhaps he’d do better to delve into the facts about his local friendly car wash and share the story of that particular piece of modern slavery. Pure, unadulterated nonsense. Is there anything that you can argue which is coherent? What point is he making exactly? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2021 10:30:00 GMT
Pure, unadulterated nonsense. Is there anything that you can argue which is coherent? What point is he making exactly? I'll make a point about him. He's complaining that 2.2% of programmes are made by non-white producers. He's arguing for equality of outcome. Does he have any evidence whatsoever that, with a purely egalitarian structure in place, that number would rise? |
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Post by oldie on Dec 10, 2021 10:38:14 GMT
What point is he making exactly? I'll make a point about him. He's complaining that 2.2% of programmes are made by non-white producers. He's arguing for equality of outcome. Does he have any evidence whatsoever that, with a purely egalitarian structure in place, that number would rise? About Olusoga? I did watch one of his series, I found it interesting and informative. It appears the British Academy agree in making this award. There are lots of programme makers out there where one might not totally align with their political viewpoints. That does not make their output any less interesting if it is well put together. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2021 10:42:44 GMT
I'll make a point about him. He's complaining that 2.2% of programmes are made by non-white producers. He's arguing for equality of outcome. Does he have any evidence whatsoever that, with a purely egalitarian structure in place, that number would rise? About Olusoga? I did watch one of his series, I found it interesting and informative. It appears the British Academy agree in making this award. There are lots of programme makers out there where one might not totally align with their political viewpoints. That does not make their output any less interesting if it is well put together. I agree, there may well be artistic merit in the content, his work may well add something to a traditional story line, no bad thing, but to argue for equality of outcome isn't just brain dead, it's dangerous, and you don't need me to explain why. I will if I need to, but am sure it's not required. I watch all sorts of stuff and listen to all types of debates, as an example, there's someone who claims to be a specialist in teaching debate techniques, but he's really just a Christian apologist, I regularly go to his website and watch his latest videos. You need to understand the arguments against your own position to be prepared to hold any kind of informed discussion, and who knows, you may find out that you've been wrong all along. Only bigots and presupps exist in echo chambers. I see Jussie has been found guilty by a jury, but is going to appeal. He won't make the outcome better going down this route. |
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Post by oldie on Dec 10, 2021 11:18:29 GMT
About Olusoga? I did watch one of his series, I found it interesting and informative. It appears the British Academy agree in making this award. There are lots of programme makers out there where one might not totally align with their political viewpoints. That does not make their output any less interesting if it is well put together. I agree, there may well be artistic merit in the content, his work may well add something to a traditional story line, no bad thing, but to argue for equality of outcome isn't just brain dead, it's dangerous, and you don't need me to explain why. I will if I need to, but am sure it's not required. I watch all sorts of stuff and listen to all types of debates, as an example, there's someone who claims to be a specialist in teaching debate techniques, but he's really just a Christian apologist, I regularly go to his website and watch his latest videos. You need to understand the arguments against your own position to be prepared to hold any kind of informed discussion, and who knows, you may find out that you've been wrong all along. Only bigots and presupps exist in echo chambers. I see Jussie has been found guilty by a jury, but is going to appeal. He won't make the outcome better going down this route. Agreed. |
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Post by Nobbygas on Dec 10, 2021 14:20:51 GMT
The young man has been found Guilty. Let's hope he learns something from this and moves on. He shouldn't beat himself up over it.
Oh, hang on...........
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2021 17:40:26 GMT
I agree, there may well be artistic merit in the content, his work may well add something to a traditional story line, no bad thing, but to argue for equality of outcome isn't just brain dead, it's dangerous, and you don't need me to explain why. I will if I need to, but am sure it's not required. I watch all sorts of stuff and listen to all types of debates, as an example, there's someone who claims to be a specialist in teaching debate techniques, but he's really just a Christian apologist, I regularly go to his website and watch his latest videos. You need to understand the arguments against your own position to be prepared to hold any kind of informed discussion, and who knows, you may find out that you've been wrong all along. Only bigots and presupps exist in echo chambers. I see Jussie has been found guilty by a jury, but is going to appeal. He won't make the outcome better going down this route. Agreed. Well, would you believe it, 10 seconds on Google and we've uncovered this guy blaming his skin colour for failings. Now, it may be the case that he was discriminated against, but he provides no evidence, none at all, just a sob story about a career that didn't match his expectations at the outset, welcome to the reality of probably 99% of the world! He then says that he became depressed. OK, that's sad, but how many white people also fail and end up on anti-depressants? This sort of garbage is why The Guardian ought to be in good public lavatories everywhere, and not as reading material. Of course, if he could demonstrate that non-white people are attracted to this industry and are being denied opportunity then he would have a case, but as far as I can see he doesn't even attempt to do that, instead he goes for equality of outcome, which you've agreed above is bad, here you go, from his own mouth; Sorry, but this is straight from the Lenny Henry book of 'equality'. www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/aug/25/why-im-no-tv-diversity-success-story-david-olusoga |
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Post by absent on Dec 10, 2021 20:23:23 GMT
I'm embarrassed for you Bas, and your obsession with skin colour. What is it you think you're defending?
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Post by oldie on Dec 10, 2021 20:37:05 GMT
Well, would you believe it, 10 seconds on Google and we've uncovered this guy blaming his skin colour for failings. Now, it may be the case that he was discriminated against, but he provides no evidence, none at all, just a sob story about a career that didn't match his expectations at the outset, welcome to the reality of probably 99% of the world! He then says that he became depressed. OK, that's sad, but how many white people also fail and end up on anti-depressants? This sort of garbage is why The Guardian ought to be in good public lavatories everywhere, and not as reading material. Of course, if he could demonstrate that non-white people are attracted to this industry and are being denied opportunity then he would have a case, but as far as I can see he doesn't even attempt to do that, instead he goes for equality of outcome, which you've agreed above is bad, here you go, from his own mouth; Sorry, but this is straight from the Lenny Henry book of 'equality'. www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/aug/25/why-im-no-tv-diversity-success-story-david-olusogaUmmm Not looked But if you are appointed by Manchester Uni as Professor of History and gets awarded the President's Award from the British Academy, not entirely sure what he failed at, nor exactly what your point is? |
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