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Post by Nobbygas on Dec 29, 2021 14:57:50 GMT
One point I've picked up and it reminds me of the talk we were having earlier about Tresco being picked for England when he didn't have a very good record in County Cricket. The top run scorer in this Ashes series so far is Travis Head. Last Summer, he played for Sussex in the County Championship, and only averaged 18 !
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Post by bluetornados on Dec 29, 2021 16:10:05 GMT
just heard a short clip of Silverwood reckoning there are positives to be taken from this test....... if i was on what he was on i think i might test positive and then be taken off in a straight jacket !!! Just like Eddie Jones, Fletcher, Flower, Sven, Fabio, Bayliss and a few others, i feel another foreign coach for the Cricket team is needed. My nominee would be the South African legend Gary Kirsten, he has coached India and SA at international level. (England slumped to an innings defeat at the MCG, getting bowled out for just 68 on day three to lose the series 3-0 with two Tests still left to play. Speaking to BT Sport after the defeat, Chris Silverwood said: "We had a good honest chat after the last Test, we just have to couple those performances together and find a way of pushing back against this bowling attack and scoring runs. "Yesterday we had a little bit of disruption in the morning and I think the way the guys applied themselves on the field and the way the bowling attack rallied and got us back into this game was a credit to them. "The way we caught in the last innings was good as well and I think there are positives coming out of this. "I've got to give our boys credit for the way they pushed back yesterday, but we have to find a way of scoring runs against this attack." "We want to take something away from this series and we want to come back and compete in the last two Test matches," he said.)
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Post by lostinspace on Dec 29, 2021 21:31:55 GMT
Good start to Test 4 Silverwood is having to isolate as a result of a family related C19 positive..wonder if he will be missed 🤔
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Post by warehamgas on Dec 29, 2021 23:33:44 GMT
One point I've picked up and it reminds me of the talk we were having earlier about Tresco being picked for England when he didn't have a very good record in County Cricket. The top run scorer in this Ashes series so far is Travis Head. Last Summer, he played for Sussex in the County Championship, and only averaged 18 ! Good point. When I saw Head picked I wasn’t that worried. As you say, not a great record in the CC. So why has he done so well when our batsmen have done so poorly? Is it... The pitches in England are not so good for scoring when the Australian pitches are? Are the conditions in England really so different from Australia that scoring is that much harder here? Is Head stronger mentally than some of our batsmen and are our batsmen mentally beaten before we start? Do the Aussies just have the ability to turn up when it’s needed. (Don’t think it’s this but...) And a further possibility, why do Australians play better against us than they do against South Africa and India? Against those they have looked mediocre in recent years. Do they raise their game against us? If so, why? I could make a guess but it wouldn’t be too popular with Australians!!
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Post by alftupper on Dec 30, 2021 8:00:03 GMT
Well, I hope you`re not insinuating that it`s because they`re a nation descended from criminals, who still have a chip on their shoulder regarding the mother country. A nation where haute cuisine consists of putting a tomato on their beefburger, and where "Tie me kangaroo down, sport", passes for a love song. Surely nobody would insinuate something so patently untrue.
"Are the conditions in England really so different from Australia that scoring is that much harder here?"
Of course they are. Although they regularly thrash us in Australia, they haven`t won a series here for two decades.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2021 14:46:48 GMT
There has to be widespread culling in our cricket, get rid of dead wood and grow some new hungry shoots from the top down. New shoots growing from... the top... down? I supposed that's an upside down Australian joke.
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Post by Nobbygas on Dec 30, 2021 15:25:18 GMT
Well, I hope you`re not insinuating that it`s because they`re a nation descended from criminals, who still have a chip on their shoulder regarding the mother country. A nation where haute cuisine consists of putting a tomato on their beefburger, and where "Tie me kangaroo down, sport", passes for a love song.Surely nobody would insinuate something so patently untrue. "Are the conditions in England really so different from Australia that scoring is that much harder here?" Of course they are. Although they regularly thrash us in Australia, they haven`t won a series here for two decades. In bold - You say that as if it's a bad thing !
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Post by warehamgas on Dec 30, 2021 16:47:32 GMT
Not at all alf. Just perplexed as to why they play so well to beat us comprehensively when they struggle to beat others, some of whom we’ve beaten easily. I do think they try harder against us, I only have to look at their reactions from the very first ball of the series, it appears more important. The reason why? Who knows?
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Post by Delsy on Dec 30, 2021 21:26:15 GMT
It is the usual reason, a lot of people I meet from other corners of the globe feel that England and the English are an arrogant nation and consequently knocking them down a peg in anything,especially sport where there is nothing more territorial is an extremely satisfying pastime.
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Post by alftupper on Dec 30, 2021 23:18:03 GMT
It is the usual reason, a lot of people I meet from other corners of the globe feel that England and the English are an arrogant nation and consequently knocking them down a peg in anything,especially sport where there is nothing more territorial is an extremely satisfying pastime. Yes. It could be that. Or it could be that they`re angry because God put them so far from anywhere, whereas He put us really close to the rest of Europe, so that we could either beat them or liberate them, as the circumstances required.
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Post by alftupper on Dec 30, 2021 23:29:32 GMT
Well, I hope you`re not insinuating that it`s because they`re a nation descended from criminals, who still have a chip on their shoulder regarding the mother country. A nation where haute cuisine consists of putting a tomato on their beefburger, and where "Tie me kangaroo down, sport", passes for a love song.Surely nobody would insinuate something so patently untrue. "Are the conditions in England really so different from Australia that scoring is that much harder here?" Of course they are. Although they regularly thrash us in Australia, they haven`t won a series here for two decades. In bold - You say that as if it's a bad thing ! You fillistein.
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Post by warehamgas on Dec 31, 2021 10:27:40 GMT
It is the usual reason, a lot of people I meet from other corners of the globe feel that England and the English are an arrogant nation and consequently knocking them down a peg in anything,especially sport where there is nothing more territorial is an extremely satisfying pastime. Yes, probably right in Australia, but where we’ve travelled, throughout Europe, certain parts of Africa and the Americas whenever people knew we were British they were very friendly, wanted to talk and share. When we were in Hawaii the summer after 9/11 the Americans we met were so friendly that we were there. No one else was flying there, no Europeans, few Americans and we were almost treated like royalty. I think your probably correct though when it comes to sport. Are we one of the few nations to be good at Football, Rugby and Cricket? So we’re an easy target in many ways.
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Post by bluetornados on Jan 1, 2022 2:11:09 GMT
One point I've picked up and it reminds me of the talk we were having earlier about Tresco being picked for England when he didn't have a very good record in County Cricket. The top run scorer in this Ashes series so far is Travis Head. Last Summer, he played for Sussex in the County Championship, and only averaged 18 ! Australia batter Travis Head will be unavailable for the fourth Ashes Test after testing positive for Covid-19. Head, Australia's leading run-scorer after three Tests, must stay in Melbourne and isolate for seven days. Head is the first player to test positive during the series, following multiple positives among support staff.
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Post by lostinspace on Jan 1, 2022 10:02:03 GMT
One point I've picked up and it reminds me of the talk we were having earlier about Tresco being picked for England when he didn't have a very good record in County Cricket. The top run scorer in this Ashes series so far is Travis Head. Last Summer, he played for Sussex in the County Championship, and only averaged 18 ! Australia batter Travis Head will be unavailable for the fourth Ashes Test after testing positive for Covid-19. Head, Australia's leading run-scorer after three Tests, must stay in Melbourne and isolate for seven days. Head is the first player to test positive during the series, following multiple positives among support staff. So will that mean England only face 10 ,in order to give them a bit of help, 😉
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Post by Nobbygas on Jan 1, 2022 17:48:37 GMT
Australia batter Travis Head will be unavailable for the fourth Ashes Test after testing positive for Covid-19. Head, Australia's leading run-scorer after three Tests, must stay in Melbourne and isolate for seven days. Head is the first player to test positive during the series, following multiple positives among support staff. So will that mean England only face 10 ,in order to give them a bit of help, 😉 Australia will still win inside three days with ten men.
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Post by alftupper on Jan 3, 2022 10:31:12 GMT
It is the usual reason, a lot of people I meet from other corners of the globe feel that England and the English are an arrogant nation and consequently knocking them down a peg in anything,especially sport where there is nothing more territorial is an extremely satisfying pastime. Yes, probably right in Australia, but where we’ve travelled, throughout Europe, certain parts of Africa and the Americas whenever people knew we were British they were very friendly, wanted to talk and share. When we were in Hawaii the summer after 9/11 the Americans we met were so friendly that we were there. No one else was flying there, no Europeans, few Americans and we were almost treated like royalty. I think your probably correct though when it comes to sport. Are we one of the few nations to be good at Football, Rugby and Cricket? So we’re an easy target in many ways. I spent the best part of a month travelling across Australia. I never encountered any anti Brit sentiments, during that time. I think, it`s only when the two countries are locked in sporting contest, that such strong feelings emerge.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jan 4, 2022 7:11:00 GMT
England's team for the next Test :- England Men's XI for third Ashes Test: Haseeb Hameed, Zak Crawley, Dawid Malan, Joe Root (c), Ben Stokes, Jonny Bairstow, Jos Buttler (wk), Mark Wood, Jack Leach, Stuart Broad, James Anderson.
A flaky opening pair with an under-performing middle order plus a long tail.
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Post by alftupper on Jan 4, 2022 7:51:14 GMT
England's team for the next Test :- England Men's XI for third Ashes Test: Haseeb Hameed, Zak Crawley, Dawid Malan, Joe Root (c), Ben Stokes, Jonny Bairstow, Jos Buttler (wk), Mark Wood, Jack Leach, Stuart Broad, James Anderson. A flaky opening pair with an under-performing middle order plus a long tail. 5 rainy days forecast, according to BBC weather.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jan 4, 2022 7:54:11 GMT
England's team for the next Test :- England Men's XI for third Ashes Test: Haseeb Hameed, Zak Crawley, Dawid Malan, Joe Root (c), Ben Stokes, Jonny Bairstow, Jos Buttler (wk), Mark Wood, Jack Leach, Stuart Broad, James Anderson. A flaky opening pair with an under-performing middle order plus a long tail. 5 rainy days forecast, according to BBC weather. You fule, that forecast is for where you live!
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Post by bluetornados on Jan 4, 2022 15:46:47 GMT
Bowler Stuart Broad has been recalled by England for the fourth Ashes Test against Australia in Sydney.
Broad, 35, replaces fellow seamer Ollie Robinson, who has a minor shoulder issue, in the only change to England's XI from last week's third Test defeat.
Assistant coach Graham Thorpe will lead England in Silverwood's absence and described Broad, England's second-highest Test wicket-taker, as a "caged tiger".
"I've been in contact with Spoons [Silverwood] throughout regarding team selection, as well as keeping him in the loop with what's been going on, but obviously myself and Joe Root are here on the ground," he said.
"We're looking at the surface and assessing our bowlers coming into it. From that point of view, it felt a bit of a risk going in with a couple of guys carrying niggles so it was right to bring Stuart back in.
"I've got a couple of caged tigers coming into this match, Ben Stokes being one of them. Stuart is another."
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