President's Club

Perhaps we have outsourced HR?

www.louisesmith-hr.com/

As far as Shaun Roberts replacement, I'm not sure the vast majority of fans would be expecting a club announcement regarding his departure/incoming replacement.

Yes, I was talking specifically about the background to Martyn Starnes appointment and by going into the market I meant using personal contacts and headhunters as well as advertising, but agree that after careful consideration an internal candidate is found to be the best option then he or she should be appointed.

Not a dig at you PP but your second sentence does illustrate one of the reasons why I think Rovers keep failing. In our hearts we must know that Tom was appointed because Wael likes him and thinks he is doing a good job rather than instigating a proper recruitment process and considering other candidates. This is all well and good and most Gasheads are happy to go along with it but how many times does the "hope for the best" approach have to backfire before we accept that we are going about things the wrong way. Even now, a month after Tom was appointed, you are saying "we will find out and no doubt he will be replaced or move on depending on performance".  I think this betrays a lack of confidence and an almost expectancy that things will go wrong which is quite understandable because they do go wrong so often at Rovers.

I don't know much about Mike Turl but think he was a Rovers supporter and experienced businessman who had built up and sold his company to a plc and Geoff brought him in as managing director. 
 

First line - No problem, but WAQ was as much to blame for the situation as the SC.
Second line - Same again, there were two sides involved. I see TWD has since commented, and my thoughts on the situation are very similar.
Third line - Wrong.


ITB - We know you had a gripe against the SC, from being de-selected as prospective Supporters Club Director, but I would encourage you to take a step back and see the bigger picture.

At the time you were posting about the SC being the losers, and it came over with some glee. There were no winners in this situation - it was just another sorry episode in the history of BRFC.

What was it that JC did wrong? What was the unacceptable behaviour?
- My view from afar is that his ear was bent, maybe via KM, and found himself involved with internal politics at the FC.

And is that a surprise?
- We've had the stalling of the promises of a new stadium. We knew the annual losses at the FC were mounting year-on-year, that they were unsustainable, with no sign of improvement. These weren't concerns of a small group - they had been talked about by supporters, and have been brought up on the forums no end.
- You have the situation where people say the SC should be independent, should be able to hold the FC to account. Yet when concerns like these are raised by the SC people say they shouldn't get involved. It seems to me a case of damned if you do and damned if you don't.
[ for what it's worth, and I appreciate this won't chime with many, I'm of the opinion that I'm happy for the SC to merrily get on with fund raising activities, and away travel, and steer clear of the politics ]  

Although there are many good things WAQ may have brought about during his reign so far, there are many aspects of WAQ managing the FC, and the managing employees within the FC, that got himself into the pickle and brought the situation on himself.
So you had both sides being stubborn. And now you've told us WAQ is refusing to speak with the PC.

- WAQ will have the best interests of the FC in mind, with the way he is running it.
- The SC would have had the best interests of the FC in mind, with any concerns they have raised.

What has been won?
- All I can see is a land-grab was made of SC initiated fund-raising schemes. It may well end up getting back to previous levels, but so far bringing the 50:50 draw in-house has seen a much reduced amount raised on match-day. And although SC volunteers are back on board selling 50:50 tickets and programmes, I do wonder who is carrying out the admin and coin counting, and what that admin may be costing the FC.

hilarious

I have been very direct and very blunt on everything to do with the SC under the previous regime both on here and on GC and my reasons why they were behaving that way.

In my opinion Jim was collateral damage because he didn’t have the guts to do the right thing and stand up to the machinations of a majority, even when I gave him an opportunity to do so. Instead he “referred it the the SC legal representatives” to which I have heard nothing.

I feel for him in someways, he had to make a choice between people he had known for many years probably knowing their decisions were wrong and standing with Wael knowing it was probably a long term investment.

Sadly he backed the wrong horse.

He has nothing. Next.

All the plaudits of being SC Chairman would be my bet? Also once you reach the top it's hard to step back down to a lesser role.

I don't know what plaudits the Supporters Club Chairmen receives. I don't think the leadership were competent or effective, but it's probably a fairly thankless labour from which little personal benefit could be derived. All you get is people like us thinking you useless.

Come, gentlemen.