Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2021 8:56:16 GMT
It looks like the accountants have pulled their finger out re The Memorial Stadium Company Ltd as there has been an objection and action suspended. Companies House
|
|
|
Post by lostinspace on Oct 12, 2021 9:59:41 GMT
Possible it's Just a change of Accountants?
|
|
bondigas
Joined: December 2017
Posts: 362
|
Post by bondigas on Oct 12, 2021 10:59:21 GMT
Isn't notice for the Bristol Rovers 1883 Ltd year end June 2020 AGM to be held now overdue or is that down to a change of accountants as well.
|
|
|
Post by mangogas15 on Oct 12, 2021 12:05:21 GMT
This is quite a normal thing to happen.
Nothing to concern anyone.
|
|
Cheshiregas
Global Moderator
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 2,082
|
Post by Cheshiregas on Oct 12, 2021 12:39:56 GMT
This is quite a normal thing to happen. Nothing to concern anyone. It may be in inefficient companies but it is a reflection of complacency. Well paid accountants &/or Company Secretary should keep on top of this. If a company can't keep on top of its paperwork, I would always question what are their budgeting, operational, commercial and financial skills like? I would also try to check where the conflicts, friction, stress points are in the company. Easy to shrug off, not so good when a company goes tits up due to a basic failure?
|
|
|
Post by swissgas on Oct 12, 2021 14:03:31 GMT
This is quite a normal thing to happen. Nothing to concern anyone. It may be in inefficient companies but it is a reflection of complacency. Well paid accountants &/or Company Secretary should keep on top of this. If a company can't keep on top of its paperwork, I would always question what are their budgeting, operational, commercial and financial skills like? I would also try to check where the conflicts, friction, stress points are in the company. Easy to shrug off, not so good when a company goes tits up due to a basic failure? Absolutely spot on Cheshire. And here is a masterclass in complacency. VIDEO DELETED (Content unsuitable for Gasheads)
|
|
|
Post by flashharry on Oct 12, 2021 17:47:52 GMT
It may be in inefficient companies but it is a reflection of complacency. Well paid accountants &/or Company Secretary should keep on top of this. If a company can't keep on top of its paperwork, I would always question what are their budgeting, operational, commercial and financial skills like? I would also try to check where the conflicts, friction, stress points are in the company. Easy to shrug off, not so good when a company goes tits up due to a basic failure? Absolutely spot on Cheshire. And here is a masterclass in complacency. Thank you for posting this clip, great to see Nick doing well, and enjoyed TG reminding those who watch this that progression of the club is ongoing. The question is, for someone who is clearly not a supporter of the club, is only interested in continually criticising the club and taking side swipes at any and every given opportunity, are you able to offer some expert insights to us mere mortals who were unable to pick up on complacency in this interview?
|
|
|
Post by a more piratey game on Oct 12, 2021 18:11:19 GMT
It may be in inefficient companies but it is a reflection of complacency. Well paid accountants &/or Company Secretary should keep on top of this. If a company can't keep on top of its paperwork, I would always question what are their budgeting, operational, commercial and financial skills like? I would also try to check where the conflicts, friction, stress points are in the company. Easy to shrug off, not so good when a company goes tits up due to a basic failure? Absolutely spot on Cheshire. And here is a masterclass in complacency. think this is excellent myself
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2021 19:44:18 GMT
Absolutely spot on Cheshire. And here is a masterclass in complacency. think this is excellent myself I agree, an excellent interview, not sure how anyone could find any fault with the content.
My only criticism would be that interviews like this should be on the club website so that supporters will be more aware of the good things going on and the negativity on all things Rovers that some people see will then be put into proper context.
Shame that this interview will get lost on here, pity its not its own thread.
|
|
|
Post by swissgas on Oct 12, 2021 19:44:52 GMT
Absolutely spot on Cheshire. And here is a masterclass in complacency. Thank you for posting this clip, great to see Nick doing well, and enjoyed TG reminding those who watch this that progression of the club is ongoing. The question is, for someone who is clearly not a supporter of the club, is only interested in continually criticising the club and taking side swipes at any and every given opportunity, are you able to offer some expert insights to us mere mortals who were unable to pick up on complacency in this interview? If you think Rovers are progressing then you won't pick up on the complacency in this interview.
|
|
|
Post by a more piratey game on Oct 12, 2021 19:59:32 GMT
Thank you for posting this clip, great to see Nick doing well, and enjoyed TG reminding those who watch this that progression of the club is ongoing. The question is, for someone who is clearly not a supporter of the club, is only interested in continually criticising the club and taking side swipes at any and every given opportunity, are you able to offer some expert insights to us mere mortals who were unable to pick up on complacency in this interview? If you think Rovers are progressing then you won't pick up on the complacency in this interview. Bit patronising Swiss?
|
|
|
Post by swissgas on Oct 12, 2021 20:09:04 GMT
If you think Rovers are progressing then you won't pick up on the complacency in this interview. Bit patronising Swiss? I get roused occasionally
|
|
|
Post by swissgas on Oct 12, 2021 20:17:30 GMT
think this is excellent myself I agree, an excellent interview, not sure how anyone could find any fault with the content.
My only criticism would be that interviews like this should be on the club website so that supporters will be more aware of the good things going on and the negativity on all things Rovers that some people see will then be put into proper context.
Shame that this interview will get lost on here, pity its not its own thread.
Yes, it probably should have it's own thread but I was replying to Cheshire's point about complacency. Tell me honestly contradiction (and Piratey) how do you see Wael, Tom and Martyn faring across the negotiating table when pitted against other lower league owners and directors like MacAnthony, Holt, Vince or Scally ? I had it in my mind that of the three Tom Gorringe was the one with the drive and ability to communicate effectively but this was the first time I'd watched him being interviewed and frankly it was disappointing. Too much fluffiness and too little substance, passion or forcefulness. I've been supportive of Tom for things like his outsourcing initiatives, sponsorships and better social media presence while still questioning whether his commercial activities are actually producing a net gain for the club. Here he mentioned ifollow revenue of 500K and an 80p increased spend per person per game which is fine but these are gross figures and, as we all know, turnover is vanity but profit is sanity. He said the club's aim was still a new stadium, financial sustainability and Championship football but didn't seem to have any idea of how that might be achieved other than hoping Wael's money will last until something turns up.
|
|
|
Post by flashharry on Oct 12, 2021 20:47:16 GMT
If you think Rovers are progressing then you won't pick up on the complacency in this interview. Bit patronising Swiss? To be expected, along with the lack of effort to explain in any detail to mere mortals, keep up the great work slating the club Swiss, you should be so proud of yourself.
|
|
|
Post by a more piratey game on Oct 12, 2021 20:49:33 GMT
I agree, an excellent interview, not sure how anyone could find any fault with the content.
My only criticism would be that interviews like this should be on the club website so that supporters will be more aware of the good things going on and the negativity on all things Rovers that some people see will then be put into proper context.
Shame that this interview will get lost on here, pity its not its own thread.
Yes, it probably should have it's own thread but I was replying to Cheshire's point about complacency. Tell me honestly contradiction (and Piratey) how do you see Wael, Tom and Martyn faring across the negotiating table when pitted against other lower league owners and directors like MacAnthony, Holt, Vince or Scally ? I had it in my mind that of the three Tom Gorringe was the one with the drive and ability to communicate effectively but this was the first time I'd watched him being interviewed and frankly it was disappointing. Too much fluffiness and too little substance, passion or forcefulness. I've been supportive of Tom for things like his outsourcing initiatives, sponsorships and better social media presence while still questioning whether his commercial activities are actually producing a net gain for the club. Here he mentioned ifollow revenue of 500K and an 80p increased spend per person per game which is fine but these are gross figures and, as we all know, turnover is vanity but profit is sanity. He said the club's aim was still a new stadium, financial sustainability and Championship football but didn't seem to have any idea of how that might be achieved other than hoping Wael's money will last until something turns up. I don't know about the WTM combo negotiating against the other owners. But you imply they're inferior negotiators. Which might be true, but if so it's not a demonstration of complacency, and not really linked to this interview either If you're saying 'I expected him to say that the BRFC directors' team struggle compared with the competition, but we're working on that' as a demonstration of the lack of complacency, I think that's a bonkers expectation And I think Gorringe-rhymes-with-orange is demonstrating his ability to communicate effectively here. And I don't think he was able to speak about the stadium or financial stability, just his 'corner of the shop'. That seems appropriate to me. I thought he handled the questions OK Looking at it again, I think your response above is a bit of an odd soup - that has a bit of a lot of things in it, but doesn't add up to a recognisable course
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2021 21:14:06 GMT
I saw a great deal of realism in the interview, trying to make the best of a bad job (ie the Mem)and understanding the challenges that the decades of lack of investment has brought us. And that sustainability is desired, but realistically not achievable whilst at the Mem, and that shortfall needs owner investment from WAQ.
There is an acknowledgement that biggest priority is new stadium, but in the meantime we try and maximise what we can at the Mem.
I see no complacency.
I suspect Swiss doesnt like reference to continued owner investment to fund shortfall,even though its an inevitable requirement but I'm rather surprised he didnt say so.
|
|
|
Post by swissgas on Oct 12, 2021 21:17:50 GMT
Yes, it probably should have it's own thread but I was replying to Cheshire's point about complacency. Tell me honestly contradiction (and Piratey) how do you see Wael, Tom and Martyn faring across the negotiating table when pitted against other lower league owners and directors like MacAnthony, Holt, Vince or Scally ? I had it in my mind that of the three Tom Gorringe was the one with the drive and ability to communicate effectively but this was the first time I'd watched him being interviewed and frankly it was disappointing. Too much fluffiness and too little substance, passion or forcefulness. I've been supportive of Tom for things like his outsourcing initiatives, sponsorships and better social media presence while still questioning whether his commercial activities are actually producing a net gain for the club. Here he mentioned ifollow revenue of 500K and an 80p increased spend per person per game which is fine but these are gross figures and, as we all know, turnover is vanity but profit is sanity. He said the club's aim was still a new stadium, financial sustainability and Championship football but didn't seem to have any idea of how that might be achieved other than hoping Wael's money will last until something turns up. I don't know about the WTM combo negotiating against the other owners. But you imply they're inferior negotiators. Which might be true, but if so it's not a demonstration of complacency, and not really linked to this interview either If you're saying 'I expected him to say that the BRFC directors' team struggle compared with the competition, but we're working on that' as a demonstration of the lack of complacency, I think that's a bonkers expectation And I think Gorringe-rhymes-with-orange is demonstrating his ability to communicate effectively here. And I don't think he was able to speak about the stadium or financial stability, just his 'corner of the shop'. That seems appropriate to me. I thought he handled the questions OK Looking at it again, I think your response above is a bit of an odd soup - that has a bit of a lot of things in it, but doesn't add up to a recognisable course Last year Wael and Martyn gave an interview to Sam Frost and I was slated for saying I thought they were too laid back, smug and complacent and that their answers to questions lacked any substance. Many Gasheads thought I was being disrespectful and that I was out of touch because these days, in a Bransonesque/Zuckerberg sort of way, this is how successful people present themselves. They said Wael and Martyn knew exactly what they were doing and everything would be fine but of of course it wasn't and I think complacency played a part in that. Cheshire picked up signs of complacency regarding the formal compliance shortcomings and explained what this can lead to. I'm picking up on this interview and saying that it showed signs of complacency and lack of urgency which before Saturday's win is what many other fans were accusing Wael of. I expected Tom to be far more decisive and enthusiastic than he was and thought that as a main board member, when asked questions which all fans want answers to, he would have been able to come up with something much more inspiring than he did. Rovers 2 used to quote the phrase "sleepwalking to oblivion" and if this interview is anything to go by the Rovers board are doing exactly that.
|
|
|
Post by swissgas on Oct 12, 2021 21:31:35 GMT
I saw a great deal of realism in the interview, trying to make the best of a bad job (ie the Mem)and understanding the challenges that the decades of lack of investment has brought us. And that sustainability is desired, but realistically not achievable whilst at the Mem, and that shortfall needs owner investment from WAQ. There is an acknowledgement that biggest priority is new stadium, but in the meantime we try and maximise what we can at the Mem. I see no complacency. I suspect Swiss doesnt like reference to continued owner investment to fund shortfall,even though its an inevitable requirement but I'm rather surprised he didnt say so. In just over half a decade, since February 2016, £ 20+ million has been invested in the club but it hasn't got us any closer to a new stadium, financial sustainability or Championship football in fact it has taken us further away from those things. Being content to rely on continued owner investment to fund the shortfall is a perfect example of complacency.
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2021 21:45:27 GMT
I saw a great deal of realism in the interview, trying to make the best of a bad job (ie the Mem)and understanding the challenges that the decades of lack of investment has brought us. And that sustainability is desired, but realistically not achievable whilst at the Mem, and that shortfall needs owner investment from WAQ. There is an acknowledgement that biggest priority is new stadium, but in the meantime we try and maximise what we can at the Mem. I see no complacency. I suspect Swiss doesnt like reference to continued owner investment to fund shortfall,even though its an inevitable requirement but I'm rather surprised he didnt say so. In just over half a decade, since February 2016, £ 20+ million has been invested in the club but it hasn't got us any closer to a new stadium, financial sustainability or Championship football in fact it has taken us further away from those things. Being content to rely on continued owner investment to fund the shortfall is a perfect example of complacency. Can only assume 99% of clubs are complacent then
|
|
|
Post by a more piratey game on Oct 12, 2021 22:37:39 GMT
I don't know about the WTM combo negotiating against the other owners. But you imply they're inferior negotiators. Which might be true, but if so it's not a demonstration of complacency, and not really linked to this interview either If you're saying 'I expected him to say that the BRFC directors' team struggle compared with the competition, but we're working on that' as a demonstration of the lack of complacency, I think that's a bonkers expectation And I think Gorringe-rhymes-with-orange is demonstrating his ability to communicate effectively here. And I don't think he was able to speak about the stadium or financial stability, just his 'corner of the shop'. That seems appropriate to me. I thought he handled the questions OK Looking at it again, I think your response above is a bit of an odd soup - that has a bit of a lot of things in it, but doesn't add up to a recognisable course Last year Wael and Martyn gave an interview to Sam Frost and I was slated for saying I thought they were too laid back, smug and complacent and that their answers to questions lacked any substance. Many Gasheads thought I was being disrespectful and that I was out of touch because these days, in a Bransonesque/Zuckerberg sort of way, this is how successful people present themselves. They said Wael and Martyn knew exactly what they were doing and everything would be fine but of of course it wasn't and I think complacency played a part in that. Cheshire picked up signs of complacency regarding the formal compliance shortcomings and explained what this can lead to. I'm picking up on this interview and saying that it showed signs of complacency and lack of urgency which before Saturday's win is what many other fans were accusing Wael of. I expected Tom to be far more decisive and enthusiastic than he was and thought that as a main board member, when asked questions which all fans want answers to, he would have been able to come up with something much more inspiring than he did. Rovers 2 used to quote the phrase "sleepwalking to oblivion" and if this interview is anything to go by the Rovers board are doing exactly that. Nope, if its staring me in the face I can't see it. Still reckon it was a good interview, thanks Tom
|
|