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Post by dinsdale on Oct 2, 2021 20:37:01 GMT
Thats a bit of a random thing to chuck in? Ive been wondering why on earth buy a football club and pissed tens of millions of quid up against a wall ? But without ever wanting to spend on fees or the stadium? Why not spend £10m in year one getting to the championship where you can rake in enough through tv fees to break even? Its almost as if its a tax write off or something Since July 2017 I’ve felt the three brothers had many millions at their disposal to do whatever they liked with and Wael chose to buy a football club but didn’t really have any idea what to do with it. If you’ve earned your fortune then it’s likely you know where you want to go next and how you are going to get there but Wael has behaved in the way a lottery winner would. A couple of weeks ago I posted that in Wael’s position, disillusioned with failure and the constant money drain, one course of action would be to try to unburden myself of the football club but keep hold of the Mem and training ground. Pulling that off would mean I could, to a certain extent, save face and at the same time preserve at least some of the capital I’d invested while providing me with an independent income. But that poses the question “ which type of football club owner would want to pay to take over Rovers in our present state and rent a not fit for purpose stadium and training ground ?” And the answer to the question is “ the wrong type, someone who is desperate and can’t get anything better”. Since posting that I’ve been contacted by two completely independent people with good football connections who have told me they think a separation of the football club from BRFC 1883 Ltd is on the agenda. That sounds awful
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Post by a more piratey game on Oct 2, 2021 21:17:25 GMT
Thats a bit of a random thing to chuck in? Ive been wondering why on earth buy a football club and pissed tens of millions of quid up against a wall ? But without ever wanting to spend on fees or the stadium? Why not spend £10m in year one getting to the championship where you can rake in enough through tv fees to break even? Its almost as if its a tax write off or something Since July 2017 I’ve felt the three brothers had many millions at their disposal to do whatever they liked with and Wael chose to buy a football club but didn’t really have any idea what to do with it. If you’ve earned your fortune then it’s likely you know where you want to go next and how you are going to get there but Wael has behaved in the way a lottery winner would. A couple of weeks ago I posted that in Wael’s position, disillusioned with failure and the constant money drain, one course of action would be to try to unburden myself of the football club but keep hold of the Mem and training ground. Pulling that off would mean I could, to a certain extent, save face and at the same time preserve at least some of the capital I’d invested while providing me with an independent income. But that poses the question “ which type of football club owner would want to pay to take over Rovers in our present state and rent a not fit for purpose stadium and training ground ?” And the answer to the question is “ the wrong type, someone who is desperate and can’t get anything better”. Since posting that I’ve been contacted by two completely independent people with good football connections who have both told me they think a separation of the football club from BRFC 1883 Ltd is on the agenda. So the Frooty Two will take on the club and build a new stadium. As part of the deal, they'll agree to rent the Mem until the new gaff is built, and the Quarters for a longer period When the gaff is built, Wael can sell the Mem site for housing Is that what they are thinking, or something along those lines?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2021 21:49:17 GMT
He was soiled goods before he arrived and now he's using it as an excuse.
"Very, very difficult at this moment in time. I think the things around me with the supporter base maybe get exacerbated by stuff that’s happened away from the field.
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bondigas
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Post by bondigas on Oct 2, 2021 22:09:01 GMT
I now believe B***** and the owner are patients of the same therapist, he or she cons them both and is being well rewarded for convincing them both they are on the right track. Jesus, when the manager offers to walk when the team obviously doesn't want to respond to his direction then you grab it. Is B***** the guardian of outside scouser investment in the club which makes him immune from the walking the plank. Something stinks within the club and its not the dirty match day kit.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2021 22:13:41 GMT
Thats a bit of a random thing to chuck in? Ive been wondering why on earth buy a football club and pissed tens of millions of quid up against a wall ? But without ever wanting to spend on fees or the stadium? Why not spend £10m in year one getting to the championship where you can rake in enough through tv fees to break even? Its almost as if its a tax write off or something Since July 2017 I’ve felt the three brothers had many millions at their disposal to do whatever they liked with and Wael chose to buy a football club but didn’t really have any idea what to do with it. If you’ve earned your fortune then it’s likely you know where you want to go next and how you are going to get there but Wael has behaved in the way a lottery winner would. A couple of weeks ago I posted that in Wael’s position, disillusioned with failure and the constant money drain, one course of action would be to try to unburden myself of the football club but keep hold of the Mem and training ground. Pulling that off would mean I could, to a certain extent, save face and at the same time preserve at least some of the capital I’d invested while providing me with an independent income. But that poses the question “ which type of football club owner would want to pay to take over Rovers in our present state and rent a not fit for purpose stadium and training ground ?” And the answer to the question is “ the wrong type, someone who is desperate and can’t get anything better”. Since posting that I’ve been contacted by two completely independent people with good football connections who have both told me they think a separation of the football club from BRFC 1883 Ltd is on the agenda. Any thoughts that those who might want to take over the football club from the holding company might have B***** connections hence Wael's reluctance to accept Bartons resignation?
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Post by swissgas on Oct 2, 2021 22:36:50 GMT
Since July 2017 I’ve felt the three brothers had many millions at their disposal to do whatever they liked with and Wael chose to buy a football club but didn’t really have any idea what to do with it. If you’ve earned your fortune then it’s likely you know where you want to go next and how you are going to get there but Wael has behaved in the way a lottery winner would. A couple of weeks ago I posted that in Wael’s position, disillusioned with failure and the constant money drain, one course of action would be to try to unburden myself of the football club but keep hold of the Mem and training ground. Pulling that off would mean I could, to a certain extent, save face and at the same time preserve at least some of the capital I’d invested while providing me with an independent income. But that poses the question “ which type of football club owner would want to pay to take over Rovers in our present state and rent a not fit for purpose stadium and training ground ?” And the answer to the question is “ the wrong type, someone who is desperate and can’t get anything better”. Since posting that I’ve been contacted by two completely independent people with good football connections who have both told me they think a separation of the football club from BRFC 1883 Ltd is on the agenda. So the Frooty Two will take on the club and build a new stadium. As part of the deal, they'll agree to rent the Mem until the new gaff is built, and the Quarters for a longer period When the gaff is built, Wael can sell the Mem site for housing Is that what they are thinking, or something along those lines? If a deal is constructed I think it will be on the basis of giving Wael an acceptable way out and at the same time providing an opportunity for someone who is desperate to get into football club ownership. But I wouldn’t rule out the vision of a new stadium being used to help sell the deal to Gasheads even if there is no substance to it.
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Post by swissgas on Oct 2, 2021 22:42:27 GMT
Since July 2017 I’ve felt the three brothers had many millions at their disposal to do whatever they liked with and Wael chose to buy a football club but didn’t really have any idea what to do with it. If you’ve earned your fortune then it’s likely you know where you want to go next and how you are going to get there but Wael has behaved in the way a lottery winner would. A couple of weeks ago I posted that in Wael’s position, disillusioned with failure and the constant money drain, one course of action would be to try to unburden myself of the football club but keep hold of the Mem and training ground. Pulling that off would mean I could, to a certain extent, save face and at the same time preserve at least some of the capital I’d invested while providing me with an independent income. But that poses the question “ which type of football club owner would want to pay to take over Rovers in our present state and rent a not fit for purpose stadium and training ground ?” And the answer to the question is “ the wrong type, someone who is desperate and can’t get anything better”. Since posting that I’ve been contacted by two completely independent people with good football connections who have both told me they think a separation of the football club from BRFC 1883 Ltd is on the agenda. Any thoughts that those who might want to take over the football club from the holding company might have B***** connections hence Wael's reluctance to accept Bartons resignation? I’ve got no inside information but this is something we speculated about in February and right now it could be an even more likely possibility.
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Post by chelt_gas on Oct 2, 2021 22:44:24 GMT
Since July 2017 I’ve felt the three brothers had many millions at their disposal to do whatever they liked with and Wael chose to buy a football club but didn’t really have any idea what to do with it. If you’ve earned your fortune then it’s likely you know where you want to go next and how you are going to get there but Wael has behaved in the way a lottery winner would. A couple of weeks ago I posted that in Wael’s position, disillusioned with failure and the constant money drain, one course of action would be to try to unburden myself of the football club but keep hold of the Mem and training ground. Pulling that off would mean I could, to a certain extent, save face and at the same time preserve at least some of the capital I’d invested while providing me with an independent income. But that poses the question “ which type of football club owner would want to pay to take over Rovers in our present state and rent a not fit for purpose stadium and training ground ?” And the answer to the question is “ the wrong type, someone who is desperate and can’t get anything better”. Since posting that I’ve been contacted by two completely independent people with good football connections who have both told me they think a separation of the football club from BRFC 1883 Ltd is on the agenda. Any thoughts that those who might want to take over the football club from the holding company might have B***** connections hence Wael's reluctance to accept Bartons resignation? This sounds strangely familiar to the Willie McKay experiment at Doncaster. He was B*****’s agent at the time too.
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eppinggas
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Post by eppinggas on Oct 3, 2021 9:12:02 GMT
"If" what B***** says is true (he might have lied, snake oil salesmen often do) - then what possible reason would there be for Wael to not have accepted his resignation? B***** must have been incredibly confident that Wael would back him. Why? The support base is at least 95% against him remaining as manager - we don't need to go over the reasons why. Getting rid of B***** for free is a no-brainer. Unless B***** has something on Wael and knew he could still count on the owners support. I have a horrible feeling swiss is right - B***** offers a potential route to 'investment/connections'. Anyone else have a theory as to why we aren't celebrating getting rid of this charlatan this morning?
The soap opera continues. This gets even worse before it gets better.
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vaughan
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Post by vaughan on Oct 3, 2021 9:21:33 GMT
"If" what B***** says is true (he might have lied, snake oil salesmen often do) - then what possible reason would there be for Wael to not have accepted his resignation? B***** must have been incredibly confident that Wael would back him. Why? The support base is at least 95% against him remaining as manager - we don't need to go over the reasons why. Getting rid of B***** for free is a no-brainer. Unless B***** has something on Wael and knew he could still count on the owners support. I have a horrible feeling swiss is right - B***** offers a potential route to 'investment/connections'. Anyone else have a theory as to why we aren't celebrating getting rid of this charlatan this morning? The soap opera continues. This gets even worse before it gets better. It is such a no-brainer that B***** has to go, that you have to question why the owner stands by him. Unfortunately, it will need fans protest to force B***** out. Wael does not like toxic. The club is an absolute mess this morning. The undercurrent of corruption makes you fear the worst.
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Post by eppinggas on Oct 3, 2021 9:31:48 GMT
"If" what B***** says is true (he might have lied, snake oil salesmen often do) - then what possible reason would there be for Wael to not have accepted his resignation? B***** must have been incredibly confident that Wael would back him. Why? The support base is at least 95% against him remaining as manager - we don't need to go over the reasons why. Getting rid of B***** for free is a no-brainer. Unless B***** has something on Wael and knew he could still count on the owners support. I have a horrible feeling swiss is right - B***** offers a potential route to 'investment/connections'. Anyone else have a theory as to why we aren't celebrating getting rid of this charlatan this morning? The soap opera continues. This gets even worse before it gets better. It is such a no-brainer that B***** has to go, that you have to question why the owner stands by him. Unfortunately, it will need fans protest to force B***** out. Wael does not like toxic. The club is an absolute mess this morning. The undercurrent of corruption makes you fear the worst. I know some people are against this. But surely a crowd of less than 5000 might convince our owner that he can accept B*****'s offer of resignation. Was there a time limit on the offer?!? So - boycott the Carlisle game. It's horrible to deny yourself a pleasure in life. But let's face it - it's not a pleasure any more. An active protest? In Bristol? Sadly, I don't think so. Change the recipe for Blackthorn, or try and open a Tesco Metro in Stokes Croft... yeah, maybe...
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Post by gasprom on Oct 3, 2021 9:35:24 GMT
Perhaps it’s time for Wael to write another open letter which convinces Gasheads he’s “one of us” while simultaneously telling us nothing at all.
Keep working hard behind the scenes, Wael
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Post by chelt_gas on Oct 3, 2021 9:40:34 GMT
"If" what B***** says is true (he might have lied, snake oil salesmen often do) - then what possible reason would there be for Wael to not have accepted his resignation? B***** must have been incredibly confident that Wael would back him. Why? The support base is at least 95% against him remaining as manager - we don't need to go over the reasons why. Getting rid of B***** for free is a no-brainer. Unless B***** has something on Wael and knew he could still count on the owners support. I have a horrible feeling swiss is right - B***** offers a potential route to 'investment/connections'. Anyone else have a theory as to why we aren't celebrating getting rid of this charlatan this morning? The soap opera continues. This gets even worse before it gets better. It is such a no-brainer that B***** has to go, that you have to question why the owner stands by him. Unfortunately, it will need fans protest to force B***** out. Wael does not like toxic. The club is an absolute mess this morning. The undercurrent of corruption makes you fear the worst. Is there a way to find out the agent(s) who represented each of B*****’s signings?
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vaughan
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Post by vaughan on Oct 3, 2021 9:48:08 GMT
It is such a no-brainer that B***** has to go, that you have to question why the owner stands by him. Unfortunately, it will need fans protest to force B***** out. Wael does not like toxic. The club is an absolute mess this morning. The undercurrent of corruption makes you fear the worst. Is there a way to find out the agent(s) who represented each of B*****’s signings? You mean Eddy Jennings who finds the players and negotiates salaries and his cut, the "minder" of Joey B*****. Join the dots...
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Post by The Concept on Oct 3, 2021 10:02:33 GMT
Sadly a boycott by season-ticket holders doesn't reflect on the official attendance, as we are counted whether attending or not.
But it will show as empty seats in the stands.
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eppinggas
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Post by eppinggas on Oct 3, 2021 10:15:01 GMT
Sadly a boycott by season-ticket holders doesn't reflect on the official attendance, as we are counted whether attending or not. But it will show as empty seats in the stands. Last update was 3,400 STs sold at the beginning of June. If we only have 1500 POTD... then that's still below an official attendance of 5000. The last time this happened was in a (non) league home match against Telford in the National League. On a positive note. Rovers are providing a Covid-19 safe environment where social distancing will be possible. So - well done Wael. Credit where it is due.
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Post by Bath Gas on Oct 3, 2021 10:22:56 GMT
It is such a no-brainer that B***** has to go, that you have to question why the owner stands by him. Unfortunately, it will need fans protest to force B***** out. Wael does not like toxic. The club is an absolute mess this morning. The undercurrent of corruption makes you fear the worst. Is there a way to find out the agent(s) who represented each of B*****’s signings? Belshaw and Anderson have the same agent, as do Finley and Luke Thomas. JB's other signings are with various different agents, a couple, such as Brett Pitman and Leon Clarke are not listed.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 3, 2021 11:03:19 GMT
It is such a no-brainer that B***** has to go, that you have to question why the owner stands by him. Unfortunately, it will need fans protest to force B***** out. Wael does not like toxic. The club is an absolute mess this morning. The undercurrent of corruption makes you fear the worst. I know some people are against this. But surely a crowd of less than 5000 might convince our owner that he can accept B*****'s offer of resignation. Was there a time limit on the offer?!? So - boycott the Carlisle game. It's horrible to deny yourself a pleasure in life. But let's face it - it's not a pleasure any more. An active protest? In Bristol? Sadly, I don't think so. Change the recipe for Blackthorn, or try and open a Tesco Metro in Stokes Croft... yeah, maybe... I'm afraid the call of a boycott gets roundly ignored, just look at the Mickey Mouse trophy. Those whom attend, some are gratuitous in their contempt of the call and it dissuades from the point....unless you can get to near 100% to conform. Something more visual so it can be recorded for future reference...... something like a mass pitch invasion of puppet Mr Punch on the minutes that equate to Mr B***** tenure as manager? If 1000 throw that puppet on, it'll get national attention.
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vaughan
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Post by vaughan on Oct 3, 2021 11:22:45 GMT
I know some people are against this. But surely a crowd of less than 5000 might convince our owner that he can accept B*****'s offer of resignation. Was there a time limit on the offer?!? So - boycott the Carlisle game. It's horrible to deny yourself a pleasure in life. But let's face it - it's not a pleasure any more. An active protest? In Bristol? Sadly, I don't think so. Change the recipe for Blackthorn, or try and open a Tesco Metro in Stokes Croft... yeah, maybe... I'm afraid the call of a boycott gets roundly ignored, just look at the Mickey Mouse trophy. Those whom attend, some are gratuitous in their contempt of the call and it dissuades from the point....unless you can get to near 100% to conform. Something more visual so it can be recorded for future reference...... something like a mass pitch invasion of puppet Mr Punch on the minutes that equate to Mr B***** tenure as manager? If 1000 throw that puppet on, it'll get national attention. Let's learn from Oldham, who seem to do it every match.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2021 11:29:40 GMT
I started my 'stay away' protest the moment Punchy was named as manager.
If others applied the same standard to Rovers that they appeared to apply to Fleetwood, a handful of season tickets would have been sold, the club would have contacted people who hadn't renewed for comment, and he would already be gone.
No point waving your arms in the air and wailing about it now when you are the reason that he's still here.
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