trymer
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Post by trymer on May 23, 2021 15:58:00 GMT
I've got no idea what it's about. Everybody seems to be talking about something that happened as if we all already know the details. I don't. Glad that I am not the only one......what is all this about ?
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swissgas
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Post by swissgas on May 23, 2021 16:07:04 GMT
I've got no idea what it's about. Everybody seems to be talking about something that happened as if we all already know the details. I don't. Well the team got relegated, nothing is happening with a new stadium, the building at the training ground has been found to be not fit for purpose and the manager faces possible imprisonment in two weeks time. So the obvious thing to do is to divert attention away from all that and onto the Supporters Club.
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Post by irenestoyboy on May 23, 2021 16:07:17 GMT
All this will do is cause lots of speculation which is extremely unfair on Wael and all other parties involved.The post was careless and even if there has been no wrong doing whatsoever there will still be a perception held amongst some that there was an issue. Funny how you mention fairness to our owner which carries a certain irony in itself given that most of the tactics employed have been snide, sly and unfair!! Which even then begs a further question why did parties either associated with the SC or close to the SC take it to the police, the FA, the council and the tabloid press even when each independent body said there was no case to answer. Smacks of a lynch mob to me.
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Post by irenestoyboy on May 23, 2021 16:09:15 GMT
I've got no idea what it's about. Everybody seems to be talking about something that happened as if we all already know the details. I don't. Glad that I am not the only one......what is all this about ? Let’s give the nominated SC spokesman Gastower the opportunity to explain it because I’m damn sure that Steve Hamer, Ken Masters, Jim Chappell or any of the exec won’t have the guts to elaborate. Especially when one of the names I just mentioned was on the email trail.... Over to you Gastower.
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Post by a more piratey game on May 23, 2021 16:12:04 GMT
All this will do is cause lots of speculation which is extremely unfair on Wael and all other parties involved.The post was careless and even if there has been no wrong doing whatsoever there will still be a perception held amongst some that there was an issue. Funny how you mention fairness to our owner. Which even then begs a further question why did parties either associated with the SC or close to the SC take it to the police, the FA, the council and the tabloid press even when each independent body said there was no case to answer. Smacks of a lynch mob to me. a pretty incompetent one, if so, though
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Post by gastower on May 23, 2021 16:16:08 GMT
Here is a lesson for you Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt
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Post by a more piratey game on May 23, 2021 16:19:22 GMT
Here is a lesson for you Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt that reads like a deflection to me
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Post by irenestoyboy on May 23, 2021 16:24:04 GMT
Here is a lesson for you Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt Heres one for you. Those in glass houses shouldnt throw stones. Spinless and weak, just like the rest of them.
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Post by irenestoyboy on May 23, 2021 16:25:48 GMT
Here is a lesson for you Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt that reads like a deflection to me Just like Knowall/Fanatical who wont answer how many members the presidents club have.
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Post by a more piratey game on May 23, 2021 16:27:40 GMT
that reads like a deflection to me Just like Knowall/Fanatical who wont answer how many members the presidents club have. it's only the reluctance to answer straight, alongside the insinuations and sniping, that makes it an interesting question in the first place!
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Post by a more piratey game on May 23, 2021 16:28:52 GMT
Just like Knowall/Fanatical who wont answer how many members the presidents club have. it's only the reluctance to answer straight, alongside the insinuations and sniping, that makes it an interesting question in the first place! I'd draw a contrast with swissgas, who doesn't exactly go easy on the club, but backs up his opinions with facts and analysis - with which you can agree, disagree, or mix and match bits of both
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Post by irenestoyboy on May 23, 2021 16:32:19 GMT
it's only the reluctance to answer straight, alongside the insinuations and sniping, that makes it an interesting question in the first place! I'd draw a contrast with swissgas, who doesn't exactly go easy on the club, but backs up his opinions with facts and analysis - with which you can agree, disagree, or mix and match bits of both I have a healthy respect for swiss as although we largely disagree, its done on the basis that hes willing to put himself on the line. People that GT seems to support and the like are snide and will snipe using others or by reverting to dirty tactics without actually ever putting anything on the table.
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Post by droitwichgas on May 23, 2021 16:35:20 GMT
Here is a lesson for you Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt I sense the majority of forum users feel that applies to KM and JC along with Knowall/Fanatical?
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Angas
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Post by Angas on May 23, 2021 17:08:32 GMT
Me neither.
Edit, was in response to TWD not following the plot. I didn't notice there was a further page. Still none the wiser though.
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Post by droitwichgas on May 23, 2021 17:33:34 GMT
Me neither. Edit, was in response to TWD not following the plot. I didn't notice there was a further page. Still none the wiser though. As I understand matters the SC reported Wael to the FA as not fit to run the club for alleged Safeguarding issues, as no further action was taken against Wael then it would appear the allegations were unfounded. ITB can correctly if I'm wrong but it seems the allegations were only made after KM was removed as FD.
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Angas
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Post by Angas on May 23, 2021 18:30:19 GMT
Ah right. Thank you droitwich. In which case I don't see the SC have anything to complain about. Why should supporters not know if the SC have raised such concerns. And why should we not be informed of the outcome of an investigation into those concerns. Even if only after the event.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2021 19:50:05 GMT
What the heck is going on?
An argument has started, but nobody will say what it's about.
gastower. If you are accusing me of something to do with stirring up some kind of 'anti-Wael' rhetoric, how can that possibly be the case when I honestly have zero clue what's going on?
The SC have something on their website, all I've done is ask what it is. If we are looking at the same thing it doesn't mention Wael, in fact, it doesn't even mention the FC.
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 23, 2021 19:53:11 GMT
Glad that I am not the only one......what is all this about ? Let’s give the nominated SC spokesman Gastower the opportunity to explain it because I’m damn sure that Steve Hamer, Ken Masters, Jim Chappell or any of the exec won’t have the guts to elaborate. Especially when one of the names I just mentioned was on the email trail.... Over to you Gastower. Do you have incontrovertible proof of this Steve ?
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Post by irenestoyboy on May 23, 2021 20:25:44 GMT
Me neither. Edit, was in response to TWD not following the plot. I didn't notice there was a further page. Still none the wiser though. As I understand matters the SC reported Wael to the FA as not fit to run the club for alleged Safeguarding issues, as no further action was taken against Wael then it would appear the allegations were unfounded. ITB can correctly if I'm wrong but it seems the allegations were only made after KM was removed as FD. Mostly correct. The persons involved also took it to the council and the Police (maybe not in that order) as well as trying to sell a story to the press. The allegations were so spurious that even the press had a hard time trying to make a story of it, so didn't, to their better judgement. I believe this happened before KM was removed as FD. I also believe that at the time the club made a rather bizarre short press release regarding an update to the safeguarding proceedures at the club. It stemmed from this. I will add, I do find it odd the SC had released a statement about this, after all, if it was just forum nonsense, ignorance would be best ignored. No smoke without fire as they say...
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 23, 2021 20:31:55 GMT
As I understand matters the SC reported Wael to the FA as not fit to run the club for alleged Safeguarding issues, as no further action was taken against Wael then it would appear the allegations were unfounded. ITB can correctly if I'm wrong but it seems the allegations were only made after KM was removed as FD. Mostly correct. The persons involved also took it to the council and the Police (maybe not in that order) as well as trying to sell a story to the press. The allegations were so spurious that even the press had a hard time trying to make a story of it, so didn't, to their better judgement. I believe this happened before KM was removed as FD. I also believe that at the time the club made a rather bizarre short press release regarding an update to the safeguarding proceedures at the club. It stemmed from this. I will add, I do find it odd the SC had released a statement about this, after all, if it was just forum nonsense, ignorance would be best ignored. No smoke without fire as they say... One more try. Do you have proof of this please?
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