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Post by toteend3 on Feb 2, 2020 16:33:38 GMT
Anyway back to yesterday's game, it did not seem like it but the bbc stats show Gas had 13 shots to Sky Blues 5. Admittedly most of them were rushed and ended up corner post bound. This coupled with some pretty poor set pieces and a 'gawd awful' referee ( the same who allowed a blantent punch of the ball for Plymouths first goal back in October in a four nil victory against Orient) are all things that Ben cant legislate for - So let's cut him some slack please. He is being cut slack. As said yesterday, Paul Hurst has been sacked by Scunthorpe for going 5 games without a win. Most crowds would be baying for blood long before 11 matches with no wins. Garner is a very lucky boy to have us as supporters and to still have a job. Well in 1990 Alex Ferguson went eight games without a win, and was staring relegation in the face when Mark Robins popped up with a goal to save Fergies neck - From memory i think he done an ok job after that........ .............
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 16:34:42 GMT
On the face of it, this looks good (although as Bambi points out, we don't know the finances behind it all) I have a feeling we soon will Saudi So do you think that new investors are behind this?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 17:02:23 GMT
He is being cut slack. As said yesterday, Paul Hurst has been sacked by Scunthorpe for going 5 games without a win. Most crowds would be baying for blood long before 11 matches with no wins. Garner is a very lucky boy to have us as supporters and to still have a job. Well in 1990 Alex Ferguson went eight games without a win, and was staring relegation in the face when Mark Robins popped up with a goal to save Fergies neck - From memory i think he done an ok job after that........ ............. I'm not that fussed about what happened in Manchester 30 years ago. Garner sorting out the chaos he's created here today is my primary concern.
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Post by a more piratey game on Feb 2, 2020 17:27:11 GMT
On the face of it, this looks good (although as Bambi points out, we don't know the finances behind it all) I have a feeling we soon will ITK insinuation alert
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Post by a more piratey game on Feb 2, 2020 17:28:17 GMT
I have a feeling we soon will Saudi So do you think that new investors are behind this? ITK insinuation alert level raised to Defcon 1
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Post by fanatical on Feb 2, 2020 17:38:48 GMT
Saudi So do you think that new investors are behind this? ITK insinuation alert level raised to Defcon 1 The AGM and Accounts are due very soon and Hani will have to confirm (guarantee) the Club is not insolvent.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 17:41:19 GMT
1. @bambergasgroin's rubbish at saying goodbye. 2. No manager should be sacked within 24 months of appointment. 3. BG needs to win though. The manager, I mean, not the cantankerous guzzler.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 17:42:53 GMT
ITK insinuation alert level raised to Defcon 1 The AGM and Accounts are due very soon and Hani will have to confirm (guarantee) the Club is not insolvent. Oh I see. Do you think that they will be produced on time this year? Edit: (Not that the latest spend will be included in them)
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Post by fanatical on Feb 2, 2020 17:44:14 GMT
I have a feeling we soon will ITK insinuation alert So you think the Club are making a profit? Brave fellow
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Post by a more piratey game on Feb 2, 2020 19:08:50 GMT
So you think the Club are making a profit? Brave fellow distraction by using non-sequitur alert!
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Post by fanatical on Feb 2, 2020 21:26:50 GMT
The AGM and Accounts are due very soon and Hani will have to confirm (guarantee) the Club is not insolvent. Oh I see. Do you think that they will be produced on time this year? Edit: (Not that the latest spend will be included in them) The A/Cs should be on time by law, but if not, may be subject to a fine, And an up to date summary has to be included - should make good reading
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 21:37:13 GMT
Oh I see. Do you think that they will be produced on time this year? Edit: (Not that the latest spend will be included in them) The A/Cs should be on time by law, but if not, may be subject to a fine, And an up to date summary has to be included - should make good reading I think we all know that and most of us know that the accounts were late last year resulting in striking off action commencing. I was just asking if anybody knew if they would be filed on time this year?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 22:59:06 GMT
One thing is clear,wael has backed all 3 managers in regards to bringing players into the club. Garner has got the players he wanted thanks to the owners. He has clearly backed garners vision for the club.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Feb 2, 2020 23:56:46 GMT
One thing is clear,wael has backed all 3 managers in regards to bringing players into the club. Garner has got the players he wanted thanks to the owners. He has clearly backed garners vision for the club. I don't think anyone can criticise GC recruits, they all made a contribution of sorts. They might not be preferred staff, but everyone was worth something. DC recruitment was more hit and miss. Either way, to say that the board don't back management is somewhat untrue so I'm left wondering what DC and GC problems were on their implications regarding where they could take us, etc?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2020 0:55:49 GMT
One thing is clear,wael has backed all 3 managers in regards to bringing players into the club. Garner has got the players he wanted thanks to the owners. He has clearly backed garners vision for the club. I don't think anyone can criticise GC recruits, they all made a contribution of sorts. They might not be preferred staff, but everyone was worth something. DC recruitment was more hit and miss. Either way, to say that the board don't back management is somewhat untrue so I'm left wondering what DC and GC problems were on their implications regarding where they could take us, etc? For me dc got most things right after our relegation,his retained list and recruitment was so good that most of that team were playing in the upper reaches of league one after the double promotion. After that his recruitment was erratic. He felt let down in the same way we did in my view when the stadium/training ground promises vanished. With coughlan i feel there is missing information relating to his departure but i dont know what it is? I think the garner vision fits waels ideas on football very well but is it realistic? i hope so.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 3, 2020 12:25:07 GMT
That's the good thing,the owners have given garner a chance to put a team onto the pitch that can play the way he requires. He will stand or fall on what happens during the next 7 or 8 months imo [he needs better results soon as well]. I think (and I'm being supportive here) the time frame is more like 7 or 8 weeks. We can't go on indefinitely without "a win". I agree and it looks like a case if the blind leading the blind. There are only a finite number of reasons/excuses for this appalling run. In other news we lost a lovely supporter in Phil Shepherd or Shep. He died last Tuesday, suddenly and it’s a big loss to many of us that know him, back from the tote end days. It’s times like this that put everything else into a different perspective. A big personality and always cheerful.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2020 12:31:07 GMT
I don't think anyone can criticise GC recruits, they all made a contribution of sorts. They might not be preferred staff, but everyone was worth something. DC recruitment was more hit and miss. Either way, to say that the board don't back management is somewhat untrue so I'm left wondering what DC and GC problems were on their implications regarding where they could take us, etc? For me dc got most things right after our relegation,his retained list and recruitment was so good that most of that team were playing in the upper reaches of league one after the double promotion. After that his recruitment was erratic. He felt let down in the same way we did in my view when the stadium/training ground promises vanished. With coughlan i feel there is missing information relating to his departure but i dont know what it is?I think the garner vision fits waels ideas on football very well but is it realistic? i hope so. My guess is that Wael was trying to be clever and was sniffing around after Garner as a replacement, just in case Coughlan left or form dipped etc, but Coughlan found out.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2020 13:13:49 GMT
For me dc got most things right after our relegation,his retained list and recruitment was so good that most of that team were playing in the upper reaches of league one after the double promotion. After that his recruitment was erratic. He felt let down in the same way we did in my view when the stadium/training ground promises vanished. With coughlan i feel there is missing information relating to his departure but i dont know what it is?I think the garner vision fits waels ideas on football very well but is it realistic? i hope so. My guess is that Wael was trying to be clever and was sniffing around after Garner as a replacement, just in case Coughlan left or form dipped etc, but Coughlan found out. possibly,but if that's not the case then its very unfair.
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Post by TaiwanGas on Feb 3, 2020 13:32:40 GMT
For me dc got most things right after our relegation,his retained list and recruitment was so good that most of that team were playing in the upper reaches of league one after the double promotion. After that his recruitment was erratic. He felt let down in the same way we did in my view when the stadium/training ground promises vanished. With coughlan i feel there is missing information relating to his departure but i dont know what it is?I think the garner vision fits waels ideas on football very well but is it realistic? i hope so. My guess is that Wael was trying to be clever and was sniffing around after Garner as a replacement, just in case Coughlan left or form dipped etc, but Coughlan found out. I agree, i'm in the 'etc' camp, perhaps Coughlan was not on the same page as Wael, I think Coughlan tried to tell us with his outbursts that followed a win or a draw!. If BG was part of a Boardroom masterplan, all I can say is what horrendous timing, sure, we were punching above our weight, sure Coughlanball was not easy on the eye, but after Ipswich with a game in hand I honestly thought we had a real chance to sneak the playoff's, I find it hard to blame any of the players since, as they were giving everything up until the moment BG arrived and then collectively we decided to say goodbye to great form and hello to relegation form. Now I do hope that BG is the right man, and time (10 years) by all accounts will tell. But I will also remember GC with fondness in particular for Shrewsbury & Ipswich away, what was it, 56 years since we beat Ipswich?, yet it was lost in the managerial upheaval, pity.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2020 13:38:53 GMT
My guess is that Wael was trying to be clever and was sniffing around after Garner as a replacement, just in case Coughlan left or form dipped etc, but Coughlan found out. I agree, i'm in the 'etc' camp, perhaps Coughlan was not on the same page as Wael, I think Coughlan tried to tell us with his outbursts that followed a win or a draw!. If BG was part of a Boardroom masterplan, all I can say is what horrendous timing, sure, we were punching above our weight, sure Coughlanball was not easy on the eye, but after Ipswich with a game in hand I honestly thought we had a real chance to sneak the playoff's, I find it hard to blame any of the players since, as they were giving everything up until the moment BG arrived and then collectively we decided to say goodbye to great form and hello to relegation form. Now I do hope that BG is the right man, and time (10 years) by all accounts will tell. But I will also remember GC with fondness in particular for Shrewsbury & Ipswich away, what was it, 56 years since we beat Ipswich?, yet it was lost in the managerial upheaval, pity. No, our form and League position was lost due to managerial incompetence at Board level. Don't take my word for it, I just run around the forum starting arguments everywhere, Swiss will tell you that if you have a department manager who is doing a great job, you make sure that he/she knows that he/she is loved.
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