vaughan
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Post by vaughan on Jan 18, 2020 14:29:53 GMT
GT's question to MS.
Discuss.
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Post by PessimistGas on Jan 18, 2020 14:49:42 GMT
GT's question to MS. Discuss. He's a bit of a knob? Probably reflective of the owners attitude. As for the rest of it, completely pointless and depressing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2020 15:11:24 GMT
The nicest thing I can say is that it did nothing for his sincereity.
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Post by swissgas on Jan 18, 2020 19:10:23 GMT
GT's question to MS. Discuss. The reason for dismissing Geoff’s question with a discourteous laugh is that Martyn has no genuine affinity for Rovers whereas Geoff does.
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Post by vaughan on Jan 18, 2020 19:16:15 GMT
Hi Swiss
It was a car crash interview. It showed a contempt for the supporters and the interviewer.
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Post by droitwichgas on Jan 18, 2020 19:30:32 GMT
Perhaps MS as jumped ship and joined the "Wael out" gang, as this interview must have put even more pressure on Weal to sell up, surely anybody who was sat on the fence will now want Wael to sell up, I'm not sure fan will be happy if he's still around if we do ever get new owners. If that wasn't MS' intention then it was a total car crash of an interview.
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Post by swissgas on Jan 18, 2020 19:53:21 GMT
Hi Swiss It was a car crash interview. It showed a contempt for the supporters and the interviewer. Yes, I actually felt angry about Martyn’s tone and the disrespect he showed Geoff Twentyman. Martyn is a West Country football man who will have many friends in the game and as he nears retirement age I should have thought he will be seriously considering whether he wants to be part of this “car crash” as you put it. Without repeating the long list of ex Rovers associates, which starts with Michel Cunnah and Lee Atkins, we must surely have reached the point where even the most mesmerized Gasheads realize that serious people just don’t want to work with our President.
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Post by droitwichgas on Jan 18, 2020 20:12:01 GMT
Hi Swiss It was a car crash interview. It showed a contempt for the supporters and the interviewer. Yes, I actually felt angry about Martyn’s tone and the disrespect he showed Geoff Twentyman. Martyn is a West Country football man who will have many friends in the game and as he nears retirement age I should have thought he will be seriously considering whether he wants to be part of this “car crash” as you put it. Without repeating the long list of ex Rovers associates, which starts with Michel Cunnah and Lee Atkins, we must surely have reached the point where even the most mesmerized Gasheads realize that serious people just don’t want to work with our President. Incrediibly 2/3rd's of posters answering the Gaschat poll about Wael are either still pro Wael or undecided, only 1/3 apparently want him out!!!
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Jan 18, 2020 20:14:16 GMT
Think the crowd next Sat may be a more meaningful vote than a poll limited to a forum.
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Post by swissgas on Jan 18, 2020 20:53:09 GMT
Yes, I actually felt angry about Martyn’s tone and the disrespect he showed Geoff Twentyman. Martyn is a West Country football man who will have many friends in the game and as he nears retirement age I should have thought he will be seriously considering whether he wants to be part of this “car crash” as you put it. Without repeating the long list of ex Rovers associates, which starts with Michel Cunnah and Lee Atkins, we must surely have reached the point where even the most mesmerized Gasheads realize that serious people just don’t want to work with our President. Incrediibly 2/3rd's of posters answering the Gaschat poll about Wael are either still pro Wael or undecided, only 1/3 apparently want him out!!! Having the option of voting “get them the hell out of here” has IMO distorted the results and was unnecessary. The extreme polarization doesn’t do us any good and there is no need for disrespect. They made a mistake and now I think Gasheads should show 100% unity by sending the message to Hani that we understand they want to recoup as much of their money as possible. But please go with a deal which gives us the best chance of surviving in the short term and prospering in the long term which means Wael has to leave the scene.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2020 21:04:16 GMT
Incrediibly 2/3rd's of posters answering the Gaschat poll about Wael are either still pro Wael or undecided, only 1/3 apparently want him out!!! Having the option of voting “get them the hell out of here” has IMO distorted the results and was unnecessary. The extreme polarization doesn’t do us any good and there is no need for disrespect. They made a mistake and now I think Gasheads should show 100% unity by sending the message to Hani that we understand they want to recoup as much of their money as possible. But please go with a deal which gives us the best chance of surviving in the short term and prospering in the long term which means Wael has to leave the scene. Why so generous? I think they should leave the club with the same debt as the day they walked in, no higher, not to cover their own mistakes.
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Post by swissgas on Jan 18, 2020 21:21:17 GMT
Having the option of voting “get them the hell out of here” has IMO distorted the results and was unnecessary. The extreme polarization doesn’t do us any good and there is no need for disrespect. They made a mistake and now I think Gasheads should show 100% unity by sending the message to Hani that we understand they want to recoup as much of their money as possible. But please go with a deal which gives us the best chance of surviving in the short term and prospering in the long term which means Wael has to leave the scene. Why so generous? I think they should leave the club with the same debt as the day they walked in, no higher, not to cover their own mistakes. That was the way it used to be, a succession of Bristol business and professional men put their money in as custodians, had their fun and then passed the club on. But it ended when Nick and Co made repayment of their loans and bonds the condition of passing the club on to Dwane Sports. Now we have to be pragmatic, accept that these people have their bases covered and try to persuade them to pass the club on with no conditions and to those with the best chance of making Rovers a success.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2020 21:34:20 GMT
Why so generous? I think they should leave the club with the same debt as the day they walked in, no higher, not to cover their own mistakes. That was the way it used to be, a succession of Bristol business and professional men put their money in as custodians, had their fun and then passed the club on. But it ended when Nick and Co made repayment of their loans and bonds the condition of passing the club on to Dwane Sports. Now we have to be pragmatic, accept that these people have their bases covered and try to persuade them to pass the club on with no conditions and to those with the best chance of making Rovers a success. In which case, we are screwed. Who would buy in to this club at (circa) £15m when they could walk in to just about any L1 or L2 club for a fraction of that sum.
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Post by vaughan on Jan 19, 2020 10:05:48 GMT
I was impressed by how GT exposed MS' evasiveness yesterday. I have criticized him for being too pally, but he has successfully exposed the regime for what it is - bunkered with a mute President and a smarmy CEO.
2 directors like this? How long can this state of affairs go on?
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Post by Rex on Jan 19, 2020 10:24:21 GMT
That was the way it used to be, a succession of Bristol business and professional men put their money in as custodians, had their fun and then passed the club on. But it ended when Nick and Co made repayment of their loans and bonds the condition of passing the club on to Dwane Sports. Now we have to be pragmatic, accept that these people have their bases covered and try to persuade them to pass the club on with no conditions and to those with the best chance of making Rovers a success. In which case, we are screwed. Who would buy in to this club at (circa) £15m when they could walk in to just about any L1 or L2 club for a fraction of that sum.Presumably, someone who cares for the club who has money to burn. Any lottery winners in today ?
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Jan 19, 2020 10:59:01 GMT
In which case, we are screwed. Who would buy in to this club at (circa) £15m when they could walk in to just about any L1 or L2 club for a fraction of that sum.Presumably, someone who cares for the club who has money to burn. Any lottery winners in today ? Or we wait for it all to go belly up and start enjoying away days at Street, Shepton Mallet and Bitton for a year or two with a fan owned Phoenix club?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2020 11:02:51 GMT
In which case, we are screwed. Who would buy in to this club at (circa) £15m when they could walk in to just about any L1 or L2 club for a fraction of that sum.Presumably, someone who cares for the club who has money to burn. Any lottery winners in today ? Would need to be a big win. Not sure what the buy in price would be, but it's going to be north of £15m. If accounts were drawn up to today, and liabilities over and above projected income for the next 2 years were factored in, I wouldn't be one bit surprised if it went over £20m. Obviously I don't have that money, or access to it, but even if I did I would point blank refuse to allow these reckless owners to walk away unscathed at my expense after 4 years of madness.
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Post by chelt_gas on Jan 19, 2020 11:48:59 GMT
Presumably, someone who cares for the club who has money to burn. Any lottery winners in today ? Would need to be a big win. Not sure what the buy in price would be, but it's going to be north of £15m. If accounts were drawn up to today, and liabilities over and above projected income for the next 2 years were factored in, I wouldn't be one bit surprised if it went over £20m. Obviously I don't have that money, or access to it, but even if I did I would point blank refuse to allow these reckless owners to walk away unscathed at my expense after 4 years of madness. If the football club is valued as a going concern then there is no asset of worth other than a licence to play in the football league and perhaps kudos of owning a football club. In fact DS may need to even offer an incentive to someone to take on the liabilities of the club assuming they will liquidate the stadium asset as part of a sale. What frustrates me is the ease at which our current owners just shovel further debt onto the club. They seem to have little regard for the future of the 137 year old club or it’s supporters if all their primary aim is to now escape without incurring financial loss. I hope this isn’t true but the absence of communication leads us to form our own conclusions on here say and instinct.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2020 11:51:19 GMT
If accounts were drawn up to today, and liabilities over and above projected income for the next 2 years were factored in, I wouldn't be one bit surprised if it went over £20m. Without the Memorial Ground, BRFC aren't worth a dime, are they? A business losing £2,000,000/year, remember. The economics of this is truly baffling.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2020 11:53:24 GMT
If accounts were drawn up to today, and liabilities over and above projected income for the next 2 years were factored in, I wouldn't be one bit surprised if it went over £20m. Without the Memorial Ground, BRFC aren't worth a dime, are they? A business losing £2,000,000/year, remember. The economics of this is truly baffling. Correct. Bristol Rovers FC will be sold for £1.
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