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Post by Delsy on Dec 18, 2019 8:43:52 GMT
KC And The Sunshine Band and maybe he can bring Linesy along with him !!
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Post by prideofbristol on Dec 18, 2019 10:36:16 GMT
Back to the OP...…. Paul Hurst, but likely under contract at Scunthorpe so can't see that happening Plus he's at a club with likely more ambition and better facilities than us so why would he come here. Ideally I'd like someone in the mould of the Cowley brothers - setting non league alight and progressive in their approach. Can't see and candidates in that mould either. What the Cowley brothers have achieved with Lincoln is not that dissimilar to what Penney achieved with Doncaster. Look how that turned out. I'd go with Ward or Holloway as DoF with Tilson or Mansell as manager. Ward and Holloway have experience of getting promoted from the division or managing in the division above. Not Michael Flynn. The guy comes across as a bully and a braggard who would view us as a stepping stone on his own personal journey. Reminds me of someone but I can't think who.........
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Post by kingswood Polak on Dec 18, 2019 10:46:17 GMT
Back to the OP...…. Paul Hurst, but likely under contract at Scunthorpe so can't see that happening Plus he's at a club with likely more ambition and better facilities than us so why would he come here. Ideally I'd like someone in the mould of the Cowley brothers - setting non league alight and progressive in their approach. Can't see and candidates in that mould either. What the Cowley brothers have achieved with Lincoln is not that dissimilar to what Penney achieved with Doncaster. Look how that turned out. I'd go with Ward or Holloway as DoF with Tilson or Mansell as manager. Ward and Holloway have experience of getting promoted from the division or managing in the division above. Not Michael Flynn. The guy comes across as a bully and a braggard who would view us as a stepping stone on his own personal journey. Reminds me of someone but I can't think who......... Football really is a funny old game as, when I last spoke with Ollie, he said he would not manage us, not with the constraints in place. I was reluctant to push further as sometimes, he just doesn’t wish to chat and that’s understandable. In the lates Bristol live, he has said they know my number, it’s for them to contact me. Q’uelle suprise ! I cannot see Ward coming near us but know nothing of Tilson, to say whether he’d do the job or not. I wonder if the owners would phone Ollie ?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 10:56:42 GMT
What the Cowley brothers have achieved with Lincoln is not that dissimilar to what Penney achieved with Doncaster. Look how that turned out. I'd go with Ward or Holloway as DoF with Tilson or Mansell as manager. Ward and Holloway have experience of getting promoted from the division or managing in the division above. Not Michael Flynn. The guy comes across as a bully and a braggard who would view us as a stepping stone on his own personal journey. Reminds me of someone but I can't think who......... Football really is a funny old game as, when I last spoke with Ollie, he said he would not manage us, not with the constraints in place. I was reluctant to push further as sometimes, he just doesn’t wish to chat and that’s understandable. In the lates Bristol live, he has said they know my number, it’s for them to contact me. Q’uelle suprise ! I cannot see Ward coming near us but know nothing of Tilson, to say whether he’d do the job or not. I wonder if the owners would phone Ollie ? I seem to remember Holloway saying that there was a 'precluding factor', well, that's no longer an issue. But you could pick literally any manager and he would have the same chance of success as Holloway. No idea why, but people seem to have a blind spot for his failures and him walking out on clubs.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Dec 18, 2019 11:02:39 GMT
Football really is a funny old game as, when I last spoke with Ollie, he said he would not manage us, not with the constraints in place. I was reluctant to push further as sometimes, he just doesn’t wish to chat and that’s understandable. In the lates Bristol live, he has said they know my number, it’s for them to contact me. Q’uelle suprise ! I cannot see Ward coming near us but know nothing of Tilson, to say whether he’d do the job or not. I wonder if the owners would phone Ollie ? I seem to remember Holloway saying that there was a 'precluding factor', well, that's no longer an issue. But you could pick literally any manager and he would have the same chance of success as Holloway. No idea why, but people seem to have a blind spot for his failures and him walking out on clubs. I totally agree. Loved him as a player and as an acquaintance but not as a manager. To quote from the life of Brian, he's not the messiah, he’s a naughty little boy. Those who say he took Palace up are partly right but he inherited a team in the play off berths. He acknowledges that leaving Plymouth was his biggest mistake and regret
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 11:31:57 GMT
I seem to remember Holloway saying that there was a 'precluding factor', well, that's no longer an issue. But you could pick literally any manager and he would have the same chance of success as Holloway. No idea why, but people seem to have a blind spot for his failures and him walking out on clubs. I totally agree. Loved him as a player and as an acquaintance but not as a manager. To quote from the life of Brian, he's not the messiah, he’s a naughty little boy. Those who say he took Palace up are partly right but he inherited a team in the play off berths. He acknowledges that leaving Plymouth was his biggest mistake and regret There's obviously, despite what Starnes said, something going on behind the scenes with the club, there are too many rumours from people not given to gossip, so anybody looking to come in is also going to have half an eye on that and be thinking that if the club does change hands then any new owner may have different ideas about how the team is run. We'll sit tight for the next couple of matches, as long as results are reasonable, we'll get an appointment from within. That's my guess anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 11:36:51 GMT
Appointment from within is not by default a bad move. David Williams, Ollie, Paul Trollope, King Darrell and even the last manager are proof of that.
Chris Hargreaves and/or Tommy Widdrington wouldn't be that disappointing, would it? (Apart from the deluded lot who think we should have someone like Arteta or Ollie because "he's one of us")
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Post by irishrover on Dec 18, 2019 14:00:20 GMT
I’m pleased to see Holloway appointed as the director of football, and seat on the board. Holloways as DOF to lay down some continuity even if managers go, Tisdale to coach and manage games now gives us some proper football. Holloway = transfer wheeling dealing, Tisdale = proper 2 1 4 1 2 football. Their appointments show some smart thinking behind the scenes after all. A lot of people seem to be suggesting Ollie or someone else come in as a DOF. Does this look in any way likely in our current state? Also whatever other qualities Holloway might have as a manager wheeling and dealing is definitely not one them. Nearly everywhere he has gone it has been the transfer dealings that have ultimately sunk him. His record clearly shows that he's at his best when he has a young squad of hungry players he can inspire and mold and is forced to get on with it. As soon as he starts tinkering he goes wrong. In any case he would be absolutely mad to give up his current comfortable media gigs (and probably take a substantial pay cut) to come and work for this shower-it would be heart over head.
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Post by Delsy on Dec 18, 2019 15:09:11 GMT
Yes, but he has the personality to slot straight back in to the media gigs when it all goes pear shaped, am I correct in thinking that Geoffrey Twentyman joined him from Radio on his previous stint and then slotted nicely back in once his temporary coaching position came to an end ?
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Post by Igitur on Dec 18, 2019 15:20:04 GMT
Joe Dunne is surely a favourite contender. He knows the squad, he knows the shenanigans of the board, he has been a manager before and best of all for the board he is a cheap option; also it would p$ss our new snake Coughlan off as apparently he wants him at Mansfield (though that is changing.)
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Post by jqgas on Dec 18, 2019 16:40:33 GMT
Yes, but he has the personality to slot straight back in to the media gigs when it all goes pear shaped, am I correct in thinking that Geoffrey Twentyman joined him from Radio on his previous stint and then slotted nicely back in once his temporary coaching position came to an end ? Twentyman joined Ollie as assistant manger on a permanent contract and was fortunate enough to have his old job offered back to him when he realised he had made a big mistake in leaving his nice secure radio slot.
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Post by warehamgas on Dec 18, 2019 20:04:28 GMT
You mean much like it’s been for the past 50 years! 😉 UTG! Except this time we are 4th in the league. Mostly we are struggling when a new manager arrives. True, but the things you mentioned didn’t include being 4th. All the other things esp selling our best players are exactly what we’ve been doing for the last 50 years.😉 UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 21:59:57 GMT
Appointment from within is not by default a bad move. David Williams, Ollie, Paul Trollope, King Darrell and even the last manager are proof of that. Chris Hargreaves and/or Tommy Widdrington wouldn't be that disappointing, would it? (Apart from the deluded lot who think we should have someone like Arteta or Ollie because "he's one of us") I totally want a young manager on his way up, not an old duffer on his way down. I want players and managers to leave Rovers for a fee or compensation from higher division clubs again. It's more sustainable, and it makes me proud to see former Pirates on MOTD.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 23:12:07 GMT
I still believe there are things going on at the club that coughlan knew about but we do not. For example are we facing massive budget cuts in the same way port vale had a few years ago?
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Post by dinsdale on Dec 19, 2019 6:18:16 GMT
I still believe there are things going on at the club that coughlan knew about but we do not. For example are we facing massive budget cuts in the same way port vale had a few years ago? Of course we are. Losing £65000 a week, almost £20m in debt it had to be coming
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Post by outwoodgas on Dec 19, 2019 9:17:51 GMT
Joe Dunne is surely a favourite contender. He knows the squad, he knows the shenanigans of the board, he has been a manager before and best of all for the board he is a cheap option; also it would p$ss our new snake Coughlan off as apparently he wants him at Mansfield (though that is changing.) I'm with you on this. If he's going to Mansfield then why hasn't he gone already? Its not as if he owes Rovers any loyalty as he's only been here for 5 minutes. If he does a good job as caretaker then why not put him in - after all we've promoted from within with the last two appointments and they were both a success. Also we seem to have a very good back room team so why rock the boat by bringing in a new man with all the hangers-on they generally want to bring in. It does seem curious that he's not in the betting though. Surely he's not ruled himself out - he's far more experienced as a league manager than DC and GC were when they took on the roles and he must be hoping for another managerial post. Or perhaps No.2 at Mansfield is a better job than No.1 at Rovers?
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Post by Peter Parker on Dec 19, 2019 9:55:09 GMT
Joe Dunne is surely a favourite contender. He knows the squad, he knows the shenanigans of the board, he has been a manager before and best of all for the board he is a cheap option; also it would p$ss our new snake Coughlan off as apparently he wants him at Mansfield (though that is changing.) I'm with you on this. If he's going to Mansfield then why hasn't he gone already? Its not as if he owes Rovers any loyalty as he's only been here for 5 minutes. If he does a good job as caretaker then why not put him in - after all we've promoted from within with the last two appointments and they were both a success. Also we seem to have a very good back room team so why rock the boat by bringing in a new man with all the hangers-on they generally want to bring in. It does seem curious that he's not in the betting though. Surely he's not ruled himself out - he's far more experienced as a league manager than DC and GC were when they took on the roles and he must be hoping for another managerial post. Or perhaps No.2 at Mansfield is a better job than No.1 at Rovers? Why would he want the job when he is on the inside and the club is an apparent shambles and he has to sell 4 players because we don't have a pot to piss in etc, etc
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2019 11:03:31 GMT
Joe Dunne is surely a favourite contender. He knows the squad, he knows the shenanigans of the board, he has been a manager before and best of all for the board he is a cheap option; also it would p$ss our new snake Coughlan off as apparently he wants him at Mansfield (though that is changing.) I'm with you on this. If he's going to Mansfield then why hasn't he gone already? Its not as if he owes Rovers any loyalty as he's only been here for 5 minutes. If he does a good job as caretaker then why not put him in - after all we've promoted from within with the last two appointments and they were both a success. Also we seem to have a very good back room team so why rock the boat by bringing in a new man with all the hangers-on they generally want to bring in. It does seem curious that he's not in the betting though. Surely he's not ruled himself out - he's far more experienced as a league manager than DC and GC were when they took on the roles and he must be hoping for another managerial post. Or perhaps No.2 at Mansfield is a better job than No.1 at Rovers? the no 2 job at mansfield is much better than being out of work and if rovers do not offer him the position of manager he could easily find himself jobless.
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Post by chelt_gas on Dec 19, 2019 11:04:35 GMT
I'm with you on this. If he's going to Mansfield then why hasn't he gone already? Its not as if he owes Rovers any loyalty as he's only been here for 5 minutes. If he does a good job as caretaker then why not put him in - after all we've promoted from within with the last two appointments and they were both a success. Also we seem to have a very good back room team so why rock the boat by bringing in a new man with all the hangers-on they generally want to bring in. It does seem curious that he's not in the betting though. Surely he's not ruled himself out - he's far more experienced as a league manager than DC and GC were when they took on the roles and he must be hoping for another managerial post. Or perhaps No.2 at Mansfield is a better job than No.1 at Rovers? Why would he want the job when he is on the inside and the club is an apparent shambles and he has to sell 4 players because we don't have a pot to piss in etc, etc Give it to Joe Dunne and let him bring Geraint Williams into the coaching team using coggy’s wages. Dunne and Williams were at Colchester together.
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Post by simonj on Dec 19, 2019 11:06:04 GMT
Why would he want the job when he is on the inside and the club is an apparent shambles and he has to sell 4 players because we don't have a pot to piss in etc, etc Give it to Joe Dunne and let him bring Geraint Williams into the coaching team using coggy’s wages. Dunne and Williams were at Colchester together. I'd be quite excited with that, or maybe the other way around. Geraint Williams, what a player he was.
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