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Post by prideofbristol on Dec 15, 2019 19:08:09 GMT
I missed this. What happened with Reilly? Implied that Reilly or his representatives had deliberately leaked information about the loan move to Cheltenham.
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Post by Angas on Dec 15, 2019 19:24:34 GMT
Oh right, thanks. I've missed a lot of what's gone on over the last 12 months or so.
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Post by prideofbristol on Dec 15, 2019 20:12:54 GMT
That's probably a good thing!
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Post by Angas on Dec 15, 2019 20:17:44 GMT
Ha ha. I think you may be right.
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Post by stevek192 on Dec 16, 2019 0:24:57 GMT
wmgas, Sorry misunderstood I was reading it in a football sense rather than an case of integrity and definitely agree how GC will go down if as looks very likely he goes tomorrow. IMO he has made it impossible to still be Rovers manager by tomorrow night.
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Post by chelt_gas on Dec 16, 2019 6:23:40 GMT
wmgas, Sorry misunderstood I was reading it in a football sense rather than an case of integrity and definitely agree how GC will go down if as looks very likely he goes tomorrow. IMO he has made it impossible to still be Rovers manager by tomorrow night. I don’t think he has. I interpret this scenario as GC issuing himself an ultimatum. If the board doesn’t provide funds for both new players for the squad and improvements in salary then he probably thinks he may as well join Mansfield for a better wage, less hours and less strife. The club need to work out the cost of a replacement manager - I bet they end up paying him more than GC anyway. But GC has probably costed how much the owners could cost him in future roles if they do nothing or force the sale of current players in thus squad.
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Post by laughinggas on Dec 16, 2019 6:51:56 GMT
So we are losing money and you want us to spend more?
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Post by eppinggas on Dec 16, 2019 9:03:46 GMT
wmgas, Sorry misunderstood I was reading it in a football sense rather than an case of integrity and definitely agree how GC will go down if as looks very likely he goes tomorrow. IMO he has made it impossible to still be Rovers manager by tomorrow night. I don’t think he has. I interpret this scenario as GC issuing himself an ultimatum. If the board doesn’t provide funds for both new players for the squad and improvements in salary then he probably thinks he may as well join Mansfield for a better wage, less hours and less strife. The club need to work out the cost of a replacement manager - I bet they end up paying him more than GC anyway. But GC has probably costed how much the owners could cost him in future roles if they do nothing or force the sale of current players in thus squad. I don't know if this is a bargaining chip for GC or not. However if anyone thinks Dwane Sports are going to be providing adequate funds for GC in the January window... then I'll have a pint of what you're drinking.
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Post by manchestergas on Dec 16, 2019 9:13:02 GMT
I thought it was being used as a bargaining chip if what he said in the post match interview was true. However, if he told the players he is leaving that doesn't work (of course we dont know if that is true but we have two separate press reports now that was said): www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/exclusive-bristol-rovers-sound-out-3647017Whatever he has not acted in a very professional way, regardless of what is going on at the club, and also he has proceeded in a completely bizarre way. Why open his mouth then? If he moves and joins Mansfield and it does not work out thats the end of any managerial career he has.
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Dec 16, 2019 9:14:27 GMT
I missed this. What happened with Reilly? Implied that Reilly or his representatives had deliberately leaked information about the loan move to Cheltenham. Why would they do that?
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Post by manchestergas on Dec 16, 2019 9:15:45 GMT
wmgas, Sorry misunderstood I was reading it in a football sense rather than an case of integrity and definitely agree how GC will go down if as looks very likely he goes tomorrow. IMO he has made it impossible to still be Rovers manager by tomorrow night. I don’t think he has. I interpret this scenario as GC issuing himself an ultimatum. If the board doesn’t provide funds for both new players for the squad and improvements in salary then he probably thinks he may as well join Mansfield for a better wage, less hours and less strife. The club need to work out the cost of a replacement manager - I bet they end up paying him more than GC anyway. But GC has probably costed how much the owners could cost him in future roles if they do nothing or force the sale of current players in thus squad. I had hoped that was GC's plan. Its intelligent and calculated move, but very risky. However, I am not sure that is his plan. If he told the players he is leaving after the game (that might not be true) he loses all bargaining power. The alternative is he is an emotional hot head and blurted this out in an a post match interview then its a completely unitelligent move.
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Post by prideofbristol on Dec 16, 2019 9:43:43 GMT
Implied that Reilly or his representatives had deliberately leaked information about the loan move to Cheltenham. Why would they do that? My best guess would be advertising his availability to other parties? Here's the full story. www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/gavin-reilly-bristol-rovers-loan-3161054"We haven't had any confirmation, it hasn't been decided and yet it seems to have appeared in the Scottish papers." I imagine our board expressed similar sentiments after your recent outburst, GC.
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Post by vaughan on Dec 16, 2019 9:52:04 GMT
In terms of what comes out of his mouth, he is a liability.
He says he doesn't do politics, but that is because he is not bright enough.
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Post by chelt_gas on Dec 16, 2019 10:01:22 GMT
In terms of what comes out of his mouth, he is a liability. He says he doesn't do politics, but that is because he is not bright enough. Well he has the skill and nous to achieve a lot with this squad. I think he has all the right intelligence that many clubs will pay for. As for his interview, I think he gets little direction from an absent board and he has had enough. I think he wants to be a football coach but he probably gets dragged into a lot more if others aren’t falling short.. Who knows. But the lack of intelligence comment is condescending and low if you don’t know him.
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Post by prideofbristol on Dec 16, 2019 10:03:09 GMT
I don’t think he has. I interpret this scenario as GC issuing himself an ultimatum. If the board doesn’t provide funds for both new players for the squad and improvements in salary then he probably thinks he may as well join Mansfield for a better wage, less hours and less strife. The club need to work out the cost of a replacement manager - I bet they end up paying him more than GC anyway. But GC has probably costed how much the owners could cost him in future roles if they do nothing or force the sale of current players in thus squad. I had hoped that was GC's plan. Its intelligent and calculated move, but very risky. However, I am not sure that is his plan. If he told the players he is leaving after the game (that might not be true) he loses all bargaining power. The alternative is he is an emotional hot head and blurted this out in an a post match interview then its a completely unitelligent move. I could have believed this up until the point when Mansfield made their move. Then the pieces fell into place. Unless GC has somehow co-opted Mansfield into his plan to get extra funding from the board? The owners rewarded him with a three-year contract and also provided him with financial backing to obtain players like JCH. And this is how he repays their loyalty?
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Post by prideofbristol on Dec 16, 2019 10:14:08 GMT
In terms of what comes out of his mouth, he is a liability. He says he doesn't do politics, but that is because he is not bright enough. Well he has the skill and nous to achieve a lot with this squad. I think he has all the right intelligence that many clubs will pay for. As for his interview, I think he gets little direction from an absent board and he has had enough. I think he wants to be a football coach but he probably gets dragged into a lot more if others aren’t falling short.. Who knows. But the lack of intelligence comment is condescending and low if you don’t know him. The way that he has conducted himself during this whole affair suggests a lack of a lot of things - not just intelligence, but also loyalty and integrity. Did he think that fans wouldn't notice how quickly Mansfield moved? The fact that he has worked outside of Sheffield for more than a decade? The fact that he asked players to move (Mark Little) from further north than Sheffield? The fact that he took on the budget in full knowledge of the associated limitations? The manner in which he announced his concerns? It takes a clear lack of intelligence to take the fans for such idiots........
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Post by stevek192 on Dec 16, 2019 10:15:48 GMT
There is no need to insult the bloke. He has the intelligence and nous to a} Save us from pretty definite relegation last season B) Get us to 4th in this League in December- something DC never got us anywhere near c) At least at the present time, we are still in the FA Cup and the Mickey Mouse Cup d) Make us a very difficult side to beat
He may not be the brightest in interviews but who cares? DC was hardly bright in constantly moaning and criticising the owners- it was only going to end one way and where is he managing now? If GC goes to Mansfield I will despise him for the way he has gone about it unless he has been given information by the Board that we don't know about ie we are being taken over and you won't be Manager!! I will wait and see what transpires but I just can't see anyway he can now continue as our Manager. UTG
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 10:34:08 GMT
There is no need to insult the bloke. He has the intelligence and nous to a} Save us from pretty definite relegation last season B) Get us to 4th in this League in December- something DC never got us anywhere near c) At least at the present time, we are still in the FA Cup and the Mickey Mouse Cup d) Make us a very difficult side to beat He may not be the brightest in interviews but who cares? DC was hardly bright in constantly moaning and criticising the owners- it was only going to end one way and where is he managing now? If GC goes to Mansfield I will despise him for the way he has gone about it unless he has been given information by the Board that we don't know about ie we are being taken over and you won't be Manager!! I will wait and see what transpires but I just can't see anyway he can now continue as our Manager. UTG At last, someone who isn’t denigrating what GC has achieved. The point from my perspective is what happened to turn Graham from the happiest I have seen him on last weeks match preview to the person we saw at what quite frankly was his best result yet. There is something seriously wrong and finding out the truth behind this should be the focus of attention.
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Post by fanatical on Dec 16, 2019 10:40:39 GMT
I don’t think he has. I interpret this scenario as GC issuing himself an ultimatum. If the board doesn’t provide funds for both new players for the squad and improvements in salary then he probably thinks he may as well join Mansfield for a better wage, less hours and less strife. The club need to work out the cost of a replacement manager - I bet they end up paying him more than GC anyway. But GC has probably costed how much the owners could cost him in future roles if they do nothing or force the sale of current players in thus squad. I don't know if this is a bargaining chip for GC or not. However if anyone thinks Dwane Sports are going to be providing adequate funds for GC in the January window... then I'll have a pint of what you're drinking. It appears to me that GC is going for the same reasons as DC - both were promised more financial support than they realized they would get.
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Post by prideofbristol on Dec 16, 2019 10:48:16 GMT
I don't know if this is a bargaining chip for GC or not. However if anyone thinks Dwane Sports are going to be providing adequate funds for GC in the January window... then I'll have a pint of what you're drinking. It appears to me that GC is going for the same reasons as DC - both were promised more financial support than they realized they would get. Not at all - GC took the job in the full knowledge that he would be working with tight financial constraints. He was clearly different to DC in that he could have no illusions about the training ground or the stadium situation. The situation with DC was completely different, as he was given explicit promises that weren't kept. GC has also been supported in the transfer market - look at the number of player he signed. JCH was a free transfer but the package was so substantial that Mark Robins felt obliged to let him leave.
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