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Post by manchestergas on Dec 14, 2019 17:32:26 GMT
A worry.
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basel
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Post by basel on Dec 14, 2019 17:36:03 GMT
Graham considering leaving Rovers. The Board have to help him in January. His family are not in Bristol apparently. IMO they should be,although that is not always easy. He has done a fantastic job and if he goes because the Board won't help him,then we may as well pack it in.
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Post by eastlondongas on Dec 14, 2019 17:37:16 GMT
Graham considering leaving Rovers. The Board have to help him in January. His family are not in Bristol apparently. IMO they should be,although that is not always easy. He has done a fantastic job and if he goes because the Board want help him,then we may as well pack it in. What exactly did he say? I wouldn't blame him if he did leave, he's had no support from the fans, no support from the board... Although it could be public pressure to get him the january budget / new deal. Smart from GC IMO
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Post by Bamber Gashead on Dec 14, 2019 17:38:44 GMT
Graham considering leaving Rovers. The Board have to help him in January. His family are not in Bristol apparently. IMO they should be,although that is not always easy. He has done a fantastic job and if he goes because the Board want help him,then we may as well pack it in. What exactly did he say? I wouldn't blame him if he did leave, he's had no support from the fans, no support from the board... Although it could be public pressure to get him the january budget / new deal. Smart from GC IMO I hope it is the latter.
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Post by basel on Dec 14, 2019 17:39:04 GMT
Graham considering leaving Rovers. The Board have to help him in January. His family are not in Bristol apparently. IMO they should be,although that is not always easy. He has done a fantastic job and if he goes because the Board want help him,then we may as well pack it in. What exactly did he say? I wouldn't blame him if he did leave, he's had no support from the fans, no support from the board... Although it could be public pressure to get him the january budget / new deal. Smart from GC IMO He has a football and personal decision to make.
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Post by manchestergas on Dec 14, 2019 17:39:30 GMT
It was the normal post match interview and then suddenly said he has to sit down with his family tonight and said he had a major decision to take. Hoskins at the end said see you on Tuesday fir Plymouth and he didn’t answer and apparently was on verge of tears.
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Post by Angas on Dec 14, 2019 17:49:29 GMT
He's a big family man, he's made that clear in previous interviews. Family is everything to him, and they're a long way away. so that's got to be a big part of it. Plus, between the lines, doubt that the board have any intention of taking the club forward. (Possibly even certainty that they don't and won't).
So here we go again.
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Post by lostinspace on Dec 14, 2019 18:01:24 GMT
Has this league position put them in a place of fear,,, fear of promotion dare i say and the ££££££ that may cost!!!
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Post by prideofbristol on Dec 14, 2019 18:06:23 GMT
Not the best of timing. Is it remiss of me to suggest this is more than a trifle self-indulgent after the biggest result of the season?
Contracts are there to be honoured. If there are family issues, then raise them with the board, not with a media interviewer.
Unless it is incredibly serious (e.g. a sick/dying family member), then see the team through the period up to the end of the year. At this point, the board will consider releasing you from your contractual obligations.
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Post by basel on Dec 14, 2019 18:10:52 GMT
The most significant line from Graham for me was " I don't know how far I can take this club".
Sounds familiar.
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Post by prideofbristol on Dec 14, 2019 18:10:53 GMT
He's a big family man, he's made that clear in previous interviews. Family is everything to him, and they're a long way away. so that's got to be a big part of it. Plus, between the lines, doubt that the board have any intention of taking the club forward. (Possibly even certainty that they don't and won't). So here we go again. He was a big family man when he signed the contract? And he was also happy to sign the contract in the full knowledge that Clarke had openly accused the board of selling him short?
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Post by Angas on Dec 14, 2019 18:13:27 GMT
Not the best of timing. Is it remiss of me to suggest this is more than a trifle self-indulgent after the biggest result of the season? Contracts are there to be honoured. If there are family issues, then raise them with the board, not with a media interviewer. Unless it is incredibly serious (e.g. a sick/dying family member), then see the team through the period up to the end of the year. At this point, the board will consider releasing you from your contractual obligations. Lousy timing. But without knowing the reasons we can't pass judgement. He's clearly struggling to make a decision so I doubt it's a lot of fun being in his shoes right now.
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Post by prideofbristol on Dec 14, 2019 18:13:51 GMT
Has this league position put them in a place of fear,,, fear of promotion dare i say and the ££££££ that may cost!!! Echoes of 99/00 perhaps? You couldn't blame them. Just look across the city to see what is required to sustain a club at that level.
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Post by Angas on Dec 14, 2019 18:18:44 GMT
He's a big family man, he's made that clear in previous interviews. Family is everything to him, and they're a long way away. so that's got to be a big part of it. Plus, between the lines, doubt that the board have any intention of taking the club forward. (Possibly even certainty that they don't and won't). So here we go again. He was a big family man when he signed the contract? And he was also happy to sign the contract in the full knowledge that Clarke had openly accused the board of selling him short? True. But plenty of people ignore warnings to avoid a place like the plague, only to find out it really was a poison chalice that would suck the life blood out of them. Of course, it may simply be that he's been offered a new job closer to home and his family are pressuring him to take it, when he'd really sooner stay here. We have no idea what's going on. Nothing new there
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Post by bloogas on Dec 14, 2019 18:20:54 GMT
Suggestions it's family, but how did they manage when he was playing for Plymouth and Southend? And why leave right now, on the verge of promotion? Do it at the end of the season when we've missed out and blame the owners. Seems odd. Just hope it's all emotional.
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Post by lostinspace on Dec 14, 2019 18:21:00 GMT
Has this league position put them in a place of fear,,, fear of promotion dare i say and the ££££££ that may cost!!! Echoes of 99/00 perhaps? You couldn't blame them. Just look across the city to see what is required to sustain a club at that level. Exactly, where an owner is prepared to write off £120million in the chase for premier football then you do need to look seriously at what you have .........and what you want to achieve
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Post by lostinspace on Dec 14, 2019 18:24:00 GMT
Suggestions it's family, but how did they manage when he was playing for Plymouth and Southend? And why leave right now, on the verge of promotion? Do it at the end of the season when we've missed out and blame the owners. Seems odd. Just hope it's all emotional. as a player you can turn it all off virtually when the whistle blows after 90 minutes, then get into the family thing ......as a coach/manager it's virtually 16 hours a day x 365 and then some!!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 18:30:34 GMT
The most significant line from Graham for me was " I don't know how far I can take this club". Sounds familiar. For a man with less than a year’s experience as a manager he is making himself sound like Warnock with numerous promotions under his belt. I agree that he sounds self-indulgent and perhaps needs to be reminded of his relative lack of experience, his 2.5 year contract and that he has achieved little in the grand scheme of things so he should honour his contract which will be reviewed at the end of the season.
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Post by basel on Dec 14, 2019 18:42:59 GMT
The most significant line from Graham for me was " I don't know how far I can take this club". Sounds familiar. For a man with less than a year’s experience as a manager he is making himself sound like Warnock with numerous promotions under his belt. I agree that he sounds self-indulgent and perhaps needs to be reminded of his relative lack of experience, his 2.5 year contract and that he has achieved little in the grand scheme of things so he should honour his contract which will be reviewed at the end of the season. I disagree.Some can manage,some cannot. Graham has already saved us from 4th tier football and turned us into promotion challengers. He has done a fantastic job. He needs backing from the Board to carry on his vision. I don't suppose he's asking for millions £.It'll be enough to keep JCH and sign maybe two players,maybe even loans.
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Post by prideofbristol on Dec 14, 2019 18:56:31 GMT
For a man with less than a year’s experience as a manager he is making himself sound like Warnock with numerous promotions under his belt. I agree that he sounds self-indulgent and perhaps needs to be reminded of his relative lack of experience, his 2.5 year contract and that he has achieved little in the grand scheme of things so he should honour his contract which will be reviewed at the end of the season. I disagree.Some can manage,some cannot. Graham has already saved us from 4th tier football and turned us into promotion challengers. He has done a fantastic job. He needs backing from the Board to carry on his vision. I don't suppose he's asking for millions £.It'll be enough to keep JCH and sign maybe two players,maybe even loans. Hurst was given the Ipswich job after a similar turnaround with Shrewsbury. Coughlan has done very well in his one year in management but has achieved even less. Clubs like Sunderland and Portsmouth could conceivably be looking at him as potential managerial material, but that doesn't mean they should be.
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