trymer
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Post by trymer on Dec 6, 2019 18:24:40 GMT
If all the money raised in this country was used for people in this country that would help. Do people seriously believe all the money sent abroad gets to where it is needed no chance. Foreign governments are deliberately keeping vast swathes of their population very poor so countries like ours keep sending money. Even in this country we have bent policeman bent politicians and bent judges. Keep charity at home. Even when you give to charity in this country the fat cats at the charities get very well paid,Jo Cox and her husband were getting huge salaries.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2019 19:11:48 GMT
thats my point EXACTLY if pride can post his/her argument then i can counter it But your just doing what the majority are, making broad statements without any back up. It just spoils the place in my opinion and I’d like to think we could put aside our political views and maybe use another platform to vent. Nothing personal btw, just see it as a potential banana skin what broad statement have i made ?
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Cheshiregas
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Post by Cheshiregas on Dec 7, 2019 14:54:07 GMT
Compassion for those less well off should not be qualified by the team that you support or your political background. I have met and helped plenty of people on the street and I know they wouldn't give a toss of whether you were blue or red, football speak or political speak. And a person's need is as great in any country when they are starving, thirsty or homeless. It's sad that people have to make political capital out of poverty and need.
If you want to make a difference, give. If you want to change the world write, email, or visit your local MP at their surgery. Tell them what you want and expect from them with regard to the lost and those in need.
Or alternatively become an activist, councillor or join a political party and do something. Having a written fight with your fellow supporters on here isn't going to change a jot other than cause argument and discord. Give today, encourage the collectors, tell them how much you support their efforts.
Then get behind the Gas remembering how lucky you are to be able to have the money to go today. Sing, shout and support the team. And respect the silence for Stuart Taylor and the minute of applause. Have a great day all.
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Dec 8, 2019 15:03:45 GMT
But your just doing what the majority are, making broad statements without any back up. It just spoils the place in my opinion and I’d like to think we could put aside our political views and maybe use another platform to vent. Nothing personal btw, just see it as a potential banana skin what broad statement have i made ? Your opinion re Jeremy Corby, it’s a broad statement or more an opinion and you give no back up but I shouldn’t really reply as it will make for more darn politicking on a rovers based forum, unless he is gas lol
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 17:48:23 GMT
...re Jeremy Corbyn... unless he is gas... Corbyn supports Arsenal (genuine longstanding supporter) and Forest Green Rovers (vegan woke points). The anti-semite sympathiser probably doesn't know we exist. EDIT: I apologise for the dig at Corbyn. I'm grumpy because I voted for him to be Labour leader, twice, and I'm now ashamed of it, and I feel responsible for the s***show next Thursday. MOVING BACK ON TOPIC: the Gasheads Against Food Poverty chaps and chapesses are heros. Good on you, and I'm proud that you're Gas.
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Post by eppinggas on Dec 8, 2019 19:21:20 GMT
...re Jeremy Corbyn... unless he is gas... Corbyn supports Arsenal (genuine longstanding supporter) and Forest Green Rovers (vegan woke points). The anti-semite sympathiser probably doesn't know we exist. EDIT: I apologise for the dig at Corbyn. I'm grumpy because I voted for him to be Labour leader, twice, and I'm now ashamed of it, and I feel responsible for the s***show next Thursday. MOVING BACK ON TOPIC: the Gasheads Against Food Poverty chaps and chapesses are heros. Good on you, and I'm proud that you're Gas.Damn right. Apparently the next Gasheads Against Food Poverty event will be at Easter. Given the great support and success of it I'll ask if BRFC would consider making it a little sooner. UTG.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 19:45:39 GMT
...re Jeremy Corbyn... unless he is gas... Corbyn supports Arsenal (genuine longstanding supporter) and Forest Green Rovers (vegan woke points). The anti-semite sympathiser probably doesn't know we exist. EDIT: I apologise for the dig at Corbyn. I'm grumpy because I voted for him to be Labour leader, twice, and I'm now ashamed of it, and I feel responsible for the s***show next Thursday. MOVING BACK ON TOPIC: the Gasheads Against Food Poverty chaps and chapesses are heros. Good on you, and I'm proud that you're Gas. Maybe do a bit of research about the company that people keep before supporting them in future, eh Shoves. Surprised that BlueMovie Bloke hasn't been on here bleating about those Labour dolts all around the ground yesterday trying to talk their nonsense to people who had popped out to watch a football match. I'm thinking of popping in to their office in Lawrence Hill with a vuvuzela and referee's whistle and making a nuisance of myself for a while, see how they like it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 19:50:42 GMT
Maybe do a bit of research about the company that people keep before supporting them in future, eh Shoves. Oh it's not that bad. I've heard from the company of those you've supported. There's always someone worse than myself.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 20:03:00 GMT
Maybe do a bit of research about the company that people keep before supporting them in future, eh Shoves. Oh it's not that bad. I've heard from the company of those you've supported. There's always someone worse than myself. Supporting the IRA for decades is 'not that bad'. You heard it here first. The bloke is a disgrace and I genuinely feel for every normal Labour supporter who has had their party hijacked by lunatics. BTW, I don't support any of them, not one of them cares about me, so why should I care about them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 21:17:04 GMT
... the IRA ... a disgrace ... lunatics. ... not one of them cares about me ... This is not the forum for me to teach you British and Irish history, nor is it relevant to debate the relative awfulness of the worst leaders the Labour, Conservative, and Liberal parties have ever had. I apologised for responding to the mention of Corbyn. Until you and I join some Guzzler spin-off for non-sporting debate, we should move on. Let us proudly agree, perhaps, on the properly splendid work of Gasheads Against Food Poverty.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 21:34:34 GMT
... the IRA ... a disgrace ... lunatics. ... not one of them cares about me ... This is the forum to teach Irish history. Conservative, and Liberal parties and I join proudly Against Food Poverty. Thanks but I'll pass on the history lesson. It's not clever to chop up other people's posts to mis-represent their view, even an idiot can do it. Please see above example.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 21:46:21 GMT
It's not clever to chop up other people's posts to mis-represent their view, even .Yeah, but I did it well, Bambi. Anyway... Gashead Aginst Food Poverty!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 22:11:22 GMT
It's not clever to chop up other people's posts to mis-represent their view, even .Yeah, but I did it well, Bambi. Anyway... Gashead Aginst Food Poverty! Maybe, can you define poverty please? I thought that my misrepresentation was more better than yours anyway. You love BJ.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 22:19:10 GMT
Maybe, can you define poverty please? It's late, Bambi. That sounds reasonable. Make yourself a sandwich, Bambi.
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Dec 9, 2019 11:20:59 GMT
... the IRA ... a disgrace ... lunatics. ... not one of them cares about me ... This is not the forum for me to teach you British and Irish history, nor is it relevant to debate the relative awfulness of the worst leaders the Labour, Conservative, and Liberal parties have ever had. I apologised for responding to the mention of Corbyn. Until you and I join some Guzzler spin-off for non-sporting debate, we should move on. Let us proudly agree, perhaps, on the properly splendid work of Gasheads Against Food Poverty. Well said.
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Dec 9, 2019 11:29:15 GMT
Yeah, but I did it well, Bambi. Anyway... Gashead Aginst Food Poverty! Maybe, can you define poverty please? I thought that my misrepresentation was more better than yours anyway. You love BJ. Fear, hunger, cold and not being able to access any means of help. That’s how I felt it. Just 4 months of it and I was filled with thoughts of ending myself. I wouldn’t wish it on any perceived enemy nor anyone. I’ve only just stopped stammering too. Unless you have experienced it then you just will not believe how little help there is, thank god for the charitable organisations and the lovely kindness and understanding shown. I have written about it, from a daily diary I kept but this isn’t the place for it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 11:33:18 GMT
Maybe, can you define poverty please? I thought that my misrepresentation was more better than yours anyway. You love BJ. Fear, hunger, cold and not being able to access any means of help. That’s how I felt it. Just 4 months of it and I was filled with thoughts of ending myself. I wouldn’t wish it on any perceived enemy nor anyone. I’ve only just stopped stammering too. Unless you have experienced it then you just will not believe how little help there is, thank god for the charitable organisations and the lovely kindness and understanding shown. I have written about it, from a daily diary I kept but this isn’t the place for it. Totally understand that. I've seen first hand how devastating stress can be on people. So doesn't it sicken you that some low lifes are trying to use it as a political weapon, and that some people who aren't in need at all are taking from those food banks?
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Dec 9, 2019 11:42:55 GMT
Fear, hunger, cold and not being able to access any means of help. That’s how I felt it. Just 4 months of it and I was filled with thoughts of ending myself. I wouldn’t wish it on any perceived enemy nor anyone. I’ve only just stopped stammering too. Unless you have experienced it then you just will not believe how little help there is, thank god for the charitable organisations and the lovely kindness and understanding shown. I have written about it, from a daily diary I kept but this isn’t the place for it. Totally understand that. I've seen first hand how devastating stress can be on people. So doesn't it sicken you that some low lifes are trying to use it as a political weapon, and that some people who aren't in need at all are taking from those food banks? As a political weapon ? Hmm, interesting choice of words there BG. I can only say that anyone who genuinely is looking to help anyone who finds themselves in such a situation is a good thing. As for those who use food banks when not needing it then words fail me. My personal experience was one of acute embarrassment but, luckily, the people running the place were absolutely lovely. I still have 3 vouchers that I could use if I was like that but I am sending them back. I didn’t know you could use a foodbank without this as I had to be means tested, to get the vouchers. If true then I am truly appalled by it and hope the universe balances things up, so they get full payment for their disgusting behaviour. For the record, it actually got me out and talking to people again as I became a true hermit, wearing several layers of clothing instead of using the heating. I am stunned to hear of this. I thought the vouchers were meant to stop this ?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 12:16:53 GMT
what broad statement have i made ? Your opinion re Jeremy Corby, it’s a broad statement or more an opinion and you give no back up but I shouldn’t really reply as it will make for more darn politicking on a rovers based forum, unless he is gas lol my opinion of corbyn is based on his behaviour since 1982, here is a documented full breakdown of his alliances with terrorist groups twitter.com/TimesCorbyn
my original point still stands [ to me ] that if the opening poster can put his views then i am free to counter him/her
ps, why are momentum a party within a party ? if they are so sure in their beliefs why not stand alone ?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 12:20:17 GMT
Totally understand that. I've seen first hand how devastating stress can be on people. So doesn't it sicken you that some low lifes are trying to use it as a political weapon, and that some people who aren't in need at all are taking from those food banks? As a political weapon ? Hmm, interesting choice of words there BG. I can only say that anyone who genuinely is looking to help anyone who finds themselves in such a situation is a good thing. As for those who use food banks when not needing it then words fail me. My personal experience was one of acute embarrassment but, luckily, the people running the place were absolutely lovely. I still have 3 vouchers that I could use if I was like that but I am sending them back. I didn’t know you could use a foodbank without this as I had to be means tested, to get the vouchers. If true then I am truly appalled by it and hope the universe balances things up, so they get full payment for their disgusting behaviour. For the record, it actually got me out and talking to people again as I became a true hermit, wearing several layers of clothing instead of using the heating. I am stunned to hear of this. I thought the vouchers were meant to stop this ? But KP, the OP on this thread blamed the need for food banks on this government, and you agreed. I don't dispute that there are victims of circumstance who are genuinely in need, but that happens in all countries, under all governments, left and right, and I agree, we all have a moral duty to help the genuinely needy if we can, but it's not a black and white question is it? Tempted to expand on this but 3 days before an election it would probably turn into exactly the sort of thread that it seems some people don't want on this forum. I'll end by saying that I'm sorry that you found yourself in that position but am glad that you seem to be coming out the other side of it
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