kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 6, 2019 11:17:58 GMT
While we are on the topic, what beats both secks and football: I had an operation recently and I was lucky enough to have quite a bit of fentanyl and morphine. Both of which I can recommend as insurmountable better than both. It’s just a shame all the jacking off old men in phone boxes bit if you make a habit of it. And it’s quite moorish. Sadly, I have to have morphine daily and, believe me, it’s not nice after the initial period. I’ve been on the other too but it really messed me up. I do try and take as little as possible but even if I’m not hurting, I still have to take it. Not a great idea to take regularly
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Post by rossinio on Nov 6, 2019 21:13:57 GMT
For me there are 2 stand out reasons.
1 - from an early age the experience of playing rugby is after the game it is straight into the clubhouse where you socialise with the opposition. As kids it is a pop and a chat and as you get older it was a pint or two and a good laugh. The man of the match from each team having a downing competition etc. It quickly breaks down the ‘them n us’ attitudes and the game itself quickly becomes just part of the day. That’s not to say that losing didnt hurt of course, but you worried about that in the next training session instead of moaning about it. This leads to the fact that the banter (i hate that word) between opposing fans is, on the whole, more good natured between rugby supporters than football supporters. The rivalry between england/wales rugby is as intense as most football rivalries. The difference is when england lose to wales, despite being gutted and dreading seeing my welsh friends, i know the piss taking is good natured and i look forward to the next match. If rovers lose to city then the ‘banter’ dished out is generally more toxic. The hurt of losing is the same but the gloating certainly isnt.
2 - when watching rugby the physical side of things is taken care of by the players on the pitch. There is no need to get het up and aggressive on the terraces or in the pub as the players are putting in the big hits. On the other hand watching football it is easy to feel aggrieved by a sense of injustice for missed fouls or bad decisions and there appears no outlet other than hurling abuse.
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 7, 2019 10:44:32 GMT
For me there are 2 stand out reasons. 1 - from an early age the experience of playing rugby is after the game it is straight into the clubhouse where you socialise with the opposition. As kids it is a pop and a chat and as you get older it was a pint or two and a good laugh. The man of the match from each team having a downing competition etc. It quickly breaks down the ‘them n us’ attitudes and the game itself quickly becomes just part of the day. That’s not to say that losing didnt hurt of course, but you worried about that in the next training session instead of moaning about it. This leads to the fact that the banter (i hate that word) between opposing fans is, on the whole, more good natured between rugby supporters than football supporters. The rivalry between england/wales rugby is as intense as most football rivalries. The difference is when england lose to wales, despite being gutted and dreading seeing my welsh friends, i know the piss taking is good natured and i look forward to the next match. If rovers lose to city then the ‘banter’ dished out is generally more toxic. The hurt of losing is the same but the gloating certainly isnt. 2 - when watching rugby the physical side of things is taken care of by the players on the pitch. There is no need to get het up and aggressive on the terraces or in the pub as the players are putting in the big hits. On the other hand watching football it is easy to feel aggrieved by a sense of injustice for missed fouls or bad decisions and there appears no outlet other than hurling abuse. Well said and I echo your sentiments. I was playing rugby from a much earlier age that my peer group because my brother took me to his games and I played cheerleader for him. The one thing that stood out, quickly, was the losing team clapping off the winners, directly afterwards. You could kick the buggery out of each other in during the game but there were no grudges held and there was always good camaraderie in the clubhouse of every team played. I must admit that I was always nervous playing any of the Gloucester sides and Avonmouth. These games were not for that faint of heart. Anyone who has played, will know exactly what I’m talking about. I’ve made some lifelong friends from rugby. I still scream at the TV when watching & wish injury would not have stopped me playing. Going back just 20 years and you would find plenty who played Rugby on Saturday then football on Sunday. I know a few Rovers players played football & cricket. You won’t find that happening now.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 11:33:49 GMT
i just enjoy both sports for what they are, i hate bath for barnes missing that kick at twickenham then joining them , plus most of their fans are stuck up f**king ponces city i hate no explanation needed
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 7, 2019 11:41:55 GMT
i just enjoy both sports for what they are, i hate bath for barnes missing that kick at twickenham then joining them , plus most of their fans are stuck up fing ponces city i hate no explanation needed
I bet you have city friends
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 17:48:56 GMT
i just enjoy both sports for what they are, i hate bath for barnes missing that kick at twickenham then joining them , plus most of their fans are stuck up fing ponces city i hate no explanation needed
I bet you have city friends loads and i look on rovers/city fans as brothers that squabble, its the club i detest
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 8, 2019 0:24:57 GMT
I bet you have city friends loads and i look on rovers/city fans as brothers that squabble, its the club i detest Hating the owner is enough for me. The truth is that I could rely on my red friends to turn up quickly, if needed and they also contributed a large proportion towards my trestment. The only time I do feel Intense anger toward them is if we ever play them. It got quite frisky when we played at AG in 2013 in The then Johnston’s paint trophy. Hard to believe it was that long ago.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2019 12:42:58 GMT
when i was younger i prayed they would fold in 82 and they were minutes away, i wouldnt want that now id miss the whatever it is we bring to each other
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Post by irishrover on Nov 10, 2019 4:04:59 GMT
Things I like about Rugby;
-Respect for the game (includes the ref thing but more than that, there's an appreciation for the craft of the game and respect for opponents and team mates which can be missing from other sports). -The Mythmaking (For some reason Rugby has an epic quality that seems to create particularly endearing myths and legendary players and these days it markets it quite effectively in a way that makes it appear more authentic and connected to its past than other sports). -The way it has evolved (it's a x10 better sport than it was 30 years ago - professionalism made a difference clearly but also rule changes. Seriously look at Youtube 5 nations games from the 80s it's like watching a completely different sport). -Six Nations (Consistently the best annual sporting contest around - compelling).
Things I don't like about Rugby
-The English public school snobby rugby culture I've come across (although as Rex pointed out I wouldn't include the Westcountry in this). -The Rugby World Cup (Maybe it's just because as a Welsh fan I have never really ever seen it as realistic that we could win it but I'm always underwhelmed by the RWC as a tournament. There's not enough meaningful games and the ones you do get are often quite dreary because the tension of a knockout scenario doesn't usually lend itself to risk taking and an expansive approach).
-It's very top heavy (for some reason I've never been able to watch anything below international Rugby consistently. I find poorly played Rugby with lots of handling errors and a lack of invention to be completely unwatchable).
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