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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2019 7:40:22 GMT
Nichols like everybody saw the goalkeeper dive early to the correct side of the goal. He didn't have the ability nerve or more than likely confidence to put the ball into the other side of the goal. He simply just passed the ball into the goalkeepers arms. It was a shocking penalty but in keeping with Nichols still lack of confidence. He has to go.
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Post by mangogas15 on Oct 20, 2019 8:00:27 GMT
Not making comments on Nichols as we all know where we all stand with that ... Over a period of so many months and years, how some players still find their way into starting lineup begs the question if we were serious about making a challenge in this division, why? So yes, it's not the fellas fault he missed penalty, he tries his best, but to entrust a strike force with him in it on such a woeful goal return is somewhere near negligent and GC recording another 0 away from home, is his fault entirely. No he doesn't. He let his guard down and actually put a shift in for a couple of weeks, now he's back to playing at half throttle. The bloke is an absolute disgrace. The bare minimum for anybody, at any level, is to go out and do your best, not to trot around at half pace whilst your team mates cover for you. He needs to go. To answer your other point, no, these owners will be terrified of promotion, can you imagine the losses they could run up in that division? I suspect anyway that we are close to the point where Hani will be telling Wael that if he wants to carry on playing he'll have to start putting some of his own savings in. If anyone else had played upfront and we had lost 2-0, would we be saying 'he should have picked Nichols'? No. Same way we're not saying it about Victor. Neither player have taken their chance when given it, either as sub or this freebie when JCH is out. Don't blame GC for not commenting on Nichols, what can he say? If he had someone else he wouldn't pick Nichols. His hands are tied. I can easily say I would pick Moore but we don't really know the behind the scenes stuff that goes on, we'll be picking 2 rookies if that's the case. I'd still try it. Yes we missed Sercombe yesterday, I was disappointed to see Clarke back and as captain but again, he's been chosen by the manager and we are not likely to see that change. He got an hour to break him back in to the team, not necessarily because he played poorly ala Nichols. Let's talk about this elephant in the room, the penalty. We score, we probably get at least a point, we had something to defend which we do well. He decides which way he's going, it's nowhere near the corner, he sticks to his side, the keeper guesses right but he still goes there. It's not hard enough to beat the keeper, they can be if they guess right but it has to be either too high or side netting. The penalty like he took is only to be used if you have sussed which way the keeper is going. It's really poor and Smith should have taken it in hindsight, or Super Ed. It was a Luke James pen, a moment to give him a goal, to give him some confidence, not a team decision (maybe, if it was pre-agreed then fair enough, but still would have used Smith), it had no conviction, the other Rovers were buoyed by the miss, they kicked on, after having a poor recent run of form. It was a gift. An opportunity missed against a team we traditionally struggle against. Could have really sent a message to the rest, I'd have taken a point, as it stands we have had 2 games without JCH with no strikers scoring which proves the point to everyone and his ego that we can't do without him. Also you can see how he brings the best out of others, like Smith. Bet we didn't win half the free kicks in the final third that we normally do. Now we play Bolton and can't afford another shut out for our front 2 otherwise confidence will suffer and the need to bring JCH back too soon will grow. Saying that I'd take a scrappy 1-0 with a goal off Kilgour's backside. UTG
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Oct 20, 2019 8:40:03 GMT
Doncaster were much better than us irrespective of the awful penalty.We didn't deserve anything from the game.
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Post by laughinggas on Oct 20, 2019 8:53:13 GMT
No analysis of the goals conceded?
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 20, 2019 8:56:05 GMT
Not making comments on Nichols as we all know where we all stand with that ... Over a period of so many months and years, how some players still find their way into starting lineup begs the question if we were serious about making a challenge in this division, why? So yes, it's not the fellas fault he missed penalty, he tries his best, but to entrust a strike force with him in it on such a woeful goal return is somewhere near negligent and GC recording another 0 away from home, is his fault entirely. No he doesn't. Are you saying by defacto GC is picking starting players that DON'T try their best?
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Oct 20, 2019 8:57:54 GMT
I think it's when he goes too defensive in midfield. In fairness, we nearly got a result at Burton after a resilient display but Clough was far too canny not to fathom that out and just bide his time. Comparing how we played in these games with when we've taken the game to the opposition, I can't help feeling Coughlan is being a bit over-cautious. I saw flashes of us in Donny when at our best and felt it could have been a cracking game of football if we'd have gone for it (injuries taken into consideration).
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Post by mangogas15 on Oct 20, 2019 9:16:13 GMT
No analysis of the goals conceded? Nah, i gave up after the pen....
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Post by mangogas15 on Oct 20, 2019 9:17:47 GMT
Doncaster were much better than us irrespective of the awful penalty.We didn't deserve anything from the game. But if you go a goal up away from home it gives this current group something to defend which is their strength
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Post by laughinggas on Oct 20, 2019 10:31:11 GMT
Should be able to defend no matter the score when not chasing the game..
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Post by mangogas15 on Oct 20, 2019 10:39:33 GMT
Should be able to defend no matter the score when not chasing the game.. Yes. It's the 11 that defend, not just 3
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2019 10:57:08 GMT
Are you saying by defacto GC is picking starting players that DON'T try their best? Well, you tell me, if the best Nichols can do is jog around whilst everybody else is running hard, then the manager has no case to answer. But just you wait, I think we have Nichols on a 3 year deal and his contract is up next summer, so for at the tail end of this season he'll suddenly 'find form'. The bloke is an absolute disgrace to our shirt and to himself, he should be ashamed of himself.
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Oct 20, 2019 12:17:52 GMT
It's them internet warriors that's the problem, not him being League 2 standard at best.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2019 12:37:34 GMT
It's them internet warriors that's the problem, not him being League 2 standard at best. If it's Nichols we are talking about, I think he's good enough for L1, but he doesn't care.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2019 14:45:21 GMT
I watched him on loan at Hereford some years ago 10 games and eff all in the Conference, nothing has changed since then a lazy effing fraud. For those that wonder how I followed Hereford, I lived there for a while.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 20, 2019 17:20:53 GMT
Are you saying by defacto GC is picking starting players that DON'T try their best? Well, you tell me, if the best Nichols can do is jog around whilst everybody else is running hard, then the manager has no case to answer. But just you wait, I think we have Nichols on a 3 year deal and his contract is up next summer, so for at the tail end of this season he'll suddenly 'find form'. The bloke is an absolute disgrace to our shirt and to himself, he should be ashamed of himself. Well, I did tell you.....I said he tried his best. I think the discrepancy is his best, your idea of best, my idea of best and GC idea of trying best is not aligned. My original point was, and still is, there comes a time to be kind and alleviate blame from TN.....the blame lies squarely with those whom still have the power to choose him to start. GC, on this one, you're a fool. You're the one who should be ashamed of himself. Continue and good luck carry on, you'll lose my support and many many others because we can do so much better while we dwindle. To challenge this season is there for the taking. Picking Nichols is fuc£ing it up. Simples..
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2019 19:10:52 GMT
Nichols doesn’t try his best he hides away bottling every challenge he’s paid big money to make. My view is GC is forced to play the prat after all how do you justify the transfer fee and ridiculous wages if he is allowed sit around on his lazy arse. A bigger issue is the unrest he is causing between fans that want to give him the benefit of the doubt hoping he will come good and those of us that can see the the little s**t ain’t worth a w**k.
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Post by JeffNZ on Oct 20, 2019 20:09:31 GMT
I've heard he has a clause in his contract that Rovers have to pay him £10,000 a game if he's fit and doesn't play.
Actually that's not true but it's the only plausible reason I can come up with as to why he's picked every game.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2019 22:34:14 GMT
I've heard he has a clause in his contract that Rovers have to pay him £10,000 a game if he's fit and doesn't play. Actually that's not true but it's the only plausible reason I can come up with as to why he's picked every game. Do you remember what was happening in that cup competition where teams had to play so many players who had started the previous League match, or some such nonsense? One goalkeeper was subbed after a minute, the manager said that the player had 'a poor first 30 seconds'. There's your answer, start Tom, get him straight off, then he can sod off down the hairdresser, which is where it looks like he would rather be.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2019 22:55:39 GMT
I think because nichols can play deeper and on his day link up play from midfield gets him selected over the 2 loan lads who are both out and out strikers. I think adebayo and smith will start on tuesday night. We only have one target man at the club in JCH and the other 3 players are not suited to our boot the ball forward in the air style of play so whoever we pick there is still a big problem in my view.
I know people might ask about deon moore but its obvious that coughlan does not rate him so i cannot see him getting picked. I do not rate nichols by the way and always feel deflated when he is selected.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Oct 21, 2019 9:37:32 GMT
Well, you tell me, if the best Nichols can do is jog around whilst everybody else is running hard, then the manager has no case to answer. But just you wait, I think we have Nichols on a 3 year deal and his contract is up next summer, so for at the tail end of this season he'll suddenly 'find form'. The bloke is an absolute disgrace to our shirt and to himself, he should be ashamed of himself. Well, I did tell you.....I said he tried his best. I think the discrepancy is his best, your idea of best, my idea of best and GC idea of trying best is not aligned. My original point was, and still is, there comes a time to be kind and alleviate blame from TN.....the blame lies squarely with those whom still have the power to choose him to start. GC, on this one, you're a fool. You're the one who should be ashamed of himself. Continue and good luck carry on, you'll lose my support and many many others because we can do so much better while we dwindle. To challenge this season is there for the taking. Picking Nichols is fuc£ing it up. Simples.. I’ve thought about this a lot and it’s just odd how he gets picked so much. I do wonder if his contract says that he had to be in the matchday squad ? We all know how one goal, can make a huge difference come end of season. Having said that, I think our league position doesn’t truly reflect the team, not unless the rest of this league are mediocre to poor. I’ve missed 2 home games and have been bored to sleep, watching them. They may be a good bunch of lads but the football is kick and rush, relying on one striker. I’d have hoped TN would have been loaned out, to hopefully find his scoring boots but it’s not happened. I think, as I did at the start, that we will find ourselves around mid table to flirting with bottom 6.
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