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Post by crater on Mar 11, 2019 8:50:51 GMT
After what we have seen this weekend at Hibernian, Birmingham and Arsenal I think it's time to pay tribute to Stefan Payne who has never run on the pitch in his life
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Post by a more piratey game on Mar 11, 2019 9:06:52 GMT
After what we have seen this weekend at Hibernian, Birmingham and Arsenal I think it's time to pay tribute to Stefan Payne who has never run on the pitch in his life naughty, but tee hee nonetheless!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 9:47:15 GMT
It was probably the most unsuccessful punch since Fabien Speiss at Torquay.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 10:44:48 GMT
It was probably the most unsuccessful punch since Fabien Speiss at Torquay. I thought that our idiots who tried to attack Gavin Ward and then froze when they got up close and saw how big he was, then both fell over, were particularly pathetic. I'm sure we are still diligently enforcing a lifetime ban on them both.
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Mar 11, 2019 11:27:26 GMT
Could have been a relative of someone Arthur knocked off in Birmingham. Grealish looks like a Peaky Blinder in that haircut of his.
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Post by vaughan on Mar 11, 2019 11:53:28 GMT
All that moral outrage!!
I watched the game. He was fouled in opening 10 and rolled about like a girl. He scored and tactfully jumped into the crowd. He thinks that he is some sort of cult Brummie figure - "the best day of my life".
I loved it that it was so disgusting that Sky kept showing the incident, even in slow motion. I laughed at the way that Paul Mitchell blew kisses to the cheering crowd as he left the arena. Thousands were cheering, given the level of hatred.
Moral outrage. More moral outrage. Oh no, what a sad day for the "football community".
Reality: it was an excess of violent soccer tribalism directed at a twat of a footballer. Ridiculous (circus) behaviour. Nothing should surprise us!!!
It was madder in the 70s and 80s, but then we had no social media, pundits galore and radio phone-ins.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 11:59:59 GMT
All that moral outrage!! I watched the game. He was fouled in opening 10 and rolled about like a girl. He scored and tactfully jumped into the crowd. He thinks that he is some sort of cult Brummie figure - "the best day of my life". How does a girl roll around? One of the things about the Women's game is that you don't get that pathetic pretending to be hurt. There's a solution of course. Referees should exercise their duty of care, when a player looks seriously hurt, which a grown Man would need to be to roll around or go down clutching his head, for his own protection, don't allow him to continue.
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Mar 11, 2019 12:01:09 GMT
Odd that football tribalism always seems to reach unprecedented levels when there's a woman Tory hawk in power :-)
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Post by crater on Mar 11, 2019 12:03:55 GMT
When a player falls over in a women's match do the crowd sing "he fell over, he fell over"
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Post by vaughan on Mar 11, 2019 12:09:26 GMT
You can now hear players regularly squeal to try and con the ref.
Apologies to girls. Just a phrase.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 12:12:29 GMT
All that moral outrage!! I watched the game. He was fouled in opening 10 and rolled about like a girl. He scored and tactfully jumped into the crowd. He thinks that he is some sort of cult Brummie figure - "the best day of my life". How does a girl roll around? One of the things about the Women's game is that you don't get that pathetic pretending to be hurt. There's a solution of course. Referees should exercise their duty of care, when a player looks seriously hurt, which a grown Man would need to be to roll around or go down clutching his head, for his own protection, don't allow him to continue. To be fair, when I broke my leg I rolled around slapping the floor like it was going out of business.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 12:20:28 GMT
How does a girl roll around? One of the things about the Women's game is that you don't get that pathetic pretending to be hurt. There's a solution of course. Referees should exercise their duty of care, when a player looks seriously hurt, which a grown Man would need to be to roll around or go down clutching his head, for his own protection, don't allow him to continue. To be fair, when I broke my leg I rolled around slapping the floor like it was going out of business. You make the point, you were actually hurt. I'm sure Trevor Kettle will have no difficulty understanding this and implementing fairly and consistently.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 13:18:50 GMT
You can now hear players regularly squeal to try and con the ref. Apologies to girls. Just a phrase. Casual discrimination. I'm appalled. I'm not really, I don't care one tiny bit and think people should stop pretending to be offended, often on behalf of other people.
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 11, 2019 13:48:46 GMT
All that moral outrage!! I watched the game. He was fouled in opening 10 and rolled about like a girl. He scored and tactfully jumped into the crowd. He thinks that he is some sort of cult Brummie figure - "the best day of my life". How does a girl roll around? One of the things about the Women's game is that you don't get that pathetic pretending to be hurt. There's a solution of course. Referees should exercise their duty of care, when a player looks seriously hurt, which a grown Man would need to be to roll around or go down clutching his head, for his own protection, don't allow him to continue.
Yes, that might be a way to go. If it is a genuine injury or the player is genuinely hurt then that is what happens (usually a substitution). Were the refs to do that for players who deliberately act as if they are nearly dead and keep them off the pitch for a period of time it might stop players over reacting. But I guess in those circumstances the argument would be that the perpetrator’s side gets the man advantage for a period of time and the “injured” man’s side get a disadvantage for that time. The number of people getting into the pitch or its surrounds.over the past week has to be dealt with. Football is lucky that no one has sustained a bad injury from them. The current situation with stabbings, which are not football-related, has led to pundits and journalists putting the two together and wondering what might happen if one of the people did have a knife. Two things that football could do to make it better: 1. Players, managers to take responsibility for their actions. Managers should deal with it and give strong directions about what is not acceptable. They won’t do that. What Grealish did when he scored just made the matter worse. Did he get booked for it because I thought refs had been instructed to book players who act in a way that will incite fans? I understand why he did it and know that were a Rovers player to score what was going to be a winner at Ashton Gate they would do similar. All players in derbies would do that. Players and fans in one-Town-2-club matches do want to rub it in, incite, wind up the opposition. But if you seriously want to avoid situations like that then the players and managers need to take the heat out of the situations. It won’t happen and I doubt if many on here would agree with me but if you do what you’ve always done you get what you’ve always got. Unfortunately. 2. What were the stewards doing letting a fan get on the pitch. I go to enough matches to see that there are perimeter stewards who are continually watching the crowd and anyone getting near to climbing over or stepping over the fence should be seen before they get over. But I also know that stewards like talking and standing still, rarely have do I see stewards acting to stop the situation arising. I see lots of action from them when it kicks off it not much to avoid the situation escalating or happening. Here, I can only say what I’ve seen at recent matches. At Pompey it appeared well organised and the fans were segregated and we had stewards looking in our direction for most of the match, can’t say what was happening in the other parts of the ground. But I was also at Plymouth 3 years ago when a steward deliberately incited the fans and at Port Vale where the seating arrangements and stewards actions created the problems. Better stewarding could have avoided all these invasions recently. I know little about Scotland but the problems there appear to be religious and sectarian and might be different to what we have in England. I’m sure someone will put me right. UTG! ps. I’m sorry this post is a bit long but it is a serious issue which requires some thought not just a twitter length soundbite!😉
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Post by badbloodash on Mar 11, 2019 14:40:14 GMT
How does a girl roll around? One of the things about the Women's game is that you don't get that pathetic pretending to be hurt. There's a solution of course. Referees should exercise their duty of care, when a player looks seriously hurt, which a grown Man would need to be to roll around or go down clutching his head, for his own protection, don't allow him to continue.
Yes, that might be a way to go. If it is a genuine injury or the player is genuinely hurt then that is what happens (usually a substitution). Were the refs to do that for players who deliberately act as if they are nearly dead and keep them off the pitch for a period of time it might stop players over reacting. But I guess in those circumstances the argument would be that the perpetrator’s side gets the man advantage for a period of time and the “injured” man’s side get a disadvantage for that time. The number of people getting into the pitch or its surrounds.over the past week has to be dealt with. Football is lucky that no one has sustained a bad injury from them. The current situation with stabbings, which are not football-related, has led to pundits and journalists putting the two together and wondering what might happen if one of the people did have a knife. Two things that football could do to make it better: 1. Players, managers to take responsibility for their actions. Managers should deal with it and give strong directions about what is not acceptable. They won’t do that. What Grealish did when he scored just made the matter worse. Did he get booked for it because I thought refs had been instructed to book players who act in a way that will incite fans? I understand why he did it and know that were a Rovers player to score what was going to be a winner at Ashton Gate they would do similar. All players in derbies would do that. Players and fans in one-Town-2-club matches do want to rub it in, incite, wind up the opposition. But if you seriously want to avoid situations like that then the players and managers need to take the heat out of the situations. It won’t happen and I doubt if many on here would agree with me but if you do what you’ve always done you get what you’ve always got. Unfortunately. 2. What were the stewards doing letting a fan get on the pitch. I go to enough matches to see that there are perimeter stewards who are continually watching the crowd and anyone getting near to climbing over or stepping over the fence should be seen before they get over. But I also know that stewards like talking and standing still, rarely have do I see stewards acting to stop the situation arising. I see lots of action from them when it kicks off it not much to avoid the situation escalating or happening. Here, I can only say what I’ve seen at recent matches. At Pompey it appeared well organised and the fans were segregated and we had stewards looking in our direction for most of the match, can’t say what was happening in the other parts of the ground. But I was also at Plymouth 3 years ago when a steward deliberately incited the fans and at Port Vale where the seating arrangements and stewards actions created the problems. Better stewarding could have avoided all these invasions recently. I know little about Scotland but the problems there appear to be religious and sectarian and might be different to what we have in England. I’m sure someone will put me right. UTG! ps. I’m sorry this post is a bit long but it is a serious issue which requires some thought not just a twitter length soundbite!😉 The problems in Scotland are exactly the same as in England wannabe hero’s high on coke and booze who can’t handle them giving it the bigun for the cameras society rather than footballs problem the only difference in Scotland is you can assault Neil Lennon in front of 1/2 million tv viewers and still get found not guilty 😎☺️
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 15:16:38 GMT
Yes, that might be a way to go. If it is a genuine injury or the player is genuinely hurt then that is what happens (usually a substitution). Were the refs to do that for players who deliberately act as if they are nearly dead and keep them off the pitch for a period of time it might stop players over reacting. But I guess in those circumstances the argument would be that the perpetrator’s side gets the man advantage for a period of time and the “injured” man’s side get a disadvantage for that time. The number of people getting into the pitch or its surrounds.over the past week has to be dealt with. Football is lucky that no one has sustained a bad injury from them. The current situation with stabbings, which are not football-related, has led to pundits and journalists putting the two together and wondering what might happen if one of the people did have a knife. Two things that football could do to make it better: 1. Players, managers to take responsibility for their actions. Managers should deal with it and give strong directions about what is not acceptable. They won’t do that. What Grealish did when he scored just made the matter worse. Did he get booked for it because I thought refs had been instructed to book players who act in a way that will incite fans? I understand why he did it and know that were a Rovers player to score what was going to be a winner at Ashton Gate they would do similar. All players in derbies would do that. Players and fans in one-Town-2-club matches do want to rub it in, incite, wind up the opposition. But if you seriously want to avoid situations like that then the players and managers need to take the heat out of the situations. It won’t happen and I doubt if many on here would agree with me but if you do what you’ve always done you get what you’ve always got. Unfortunately. 2. What were the stewards doing letting a fan get on the pitch. I go to enough matches to see that there are perimeter stewards who are continually watching the crowd and anyone getting near to climbing over or stepping over the fence should be seen before they get over. But I also know that stewards like talking and standing still, rarely have do I see stewards acting to stop the situation arising. I see lots of action from them when it kicks off it not much to avoid the situation escalating or happening. Here, I can only say what I’ve seen at recent matches. At Pompey it appeared well organised and the fans were segregated and we had stewards looking in our direction for most of the match, can’t say what was happening in the other parts of the ground. But I was also at Plymouth 3 years ago when a steward deliberately incited the fans and at Port Vale where the seating arrangements and stewards actions created the problems. Better stewarding could have avoided all these invasions recently. I know little about Scotland but the problems there appear to be religious and sectarian and might be different to what we have in England. I’m sure someone will put me right. UTG! ps. I’m sorry this post is a bit long but it is a serious issue which requires some thought not just a twitter length soundbite!😉 The problems in Scotland are exactly the same as in England wannabe hero’s high on coke and booze who can’t handle them giving it the bigun for the cameras society rather than footballs problem the only difference in Scotland is you can assault Neil Lennon in front of 1/2 million tv viewers and still get found not guilty 😎☺️ Here a thing, of course this lout shouldn't be on that side of the barriers, but what happened here exactly? If on the street there's a confrontation and the other person involved is moving away from me but I go towards him and engage with him, guess what, I'm responsible for what happens next. This moron kicks the ball and is moving away after the ball until the player pulls him back.
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Post by Rex on Mar 11, 2019 15:22:32 GMT
It was probably the most unsuccessful punch since Fabien Speiss at Torquay. I thought that our idiots who tried at attack Gavin Ward and then froze when they got up close and saw how big he was, then both fell over, were particularly pathetic. I'm sure we are still diligently enforcing a lifetime ban on them both.We are enforcing it as diligently as City are enforcing their lifetime bans after our players were chased from the pitch.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 15:35:05 GMT
All that moral outrage!! I watched the game. He was fouled in opening 10 and rolled about like a girl. He scored and tactfully jumped into the crowd. He thinks that he is some sort of cult Brummie figure - "the best day of my life". How does a girl roll around? One of the things about the Women's game is that you don't get that pathetic pretending to be hurt. There's a solution of course. Referees should exercise their duty of care, when a player looks seriously hurt, which a grown Man would need to be to roll around or go down clutching his head, for his own protection, don't allow him to continue. An ex rovers player,now no longer with us,once told me that if a player goes down and rolls around there is nothing wrong with him he is play acting,on the other hand if he goes down and stays still then act quickly.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 15:39:33 GMT
I would guess the majority of stewards are paid minimum wage. Therefore why go the extra mile when you're employers treat you with total disrespect.
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 11, 2019 15:46:38 GMT
I would guess the majority of stewards are paid minimum wage. Therefore why go the extra mile when you're employers treat you with total disrespect. Probably, and that’s part of the problem. UTG!
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