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Post by swissgas on Feb 16, 2019 23:05:00 GMT
Not sure if this has been posted before but I found it today and really enjoyed it.
Lots of the good old songs
Tote End with "you'll never walk alone" (42.17)
And I've still got a Don Megson haircut !
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 0:06:50 GMT
The first of 7 seasons of desperate struggle in the 2nd tier with chronic last of investment and inevitable relegation.
But we would kill for 7 seasons in the championship these days.
Guessing only bert tann has more seasons in tier 2 than don megson.
Ps i know don resigned near the end of those 7 seasons.
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Post by harrybuckle on Feb 17, 2019 8:51:22 GMT
The first of 7 seasons of desperate struggle in the 2nd tier with chronic last of investment and inevitable relegation. But we would kill for 7 seasons in the championship these days. Guessing only bert tann has more seasons in tier 2 than don megson. Ps i know don resigned near the end of those 7 seasons. Megson was made an offer he could not refuse and went to the USA to manage Portland Timbers. |
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Post by Rex on Feb 17, 2019 8:54:32 GMT
I was there- only my 3rd ever game.
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Post by dido on Feb 17, 2019 10:06:23 GMT
I was there- only my 3rd ever game. Amazing that then you knew as much about football as you do today.  |
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Post by bloogas on Feb 17, 2019 10:33:46 GMT
The first of 7 seasons of desperate struggle in the 2nd tier with chronic last of investment and inevitable relegation. But we would kill for 7 seasons in the championship these days. Guessing only bert tann has more seasons in tier 2 than don megson. Ps i know don resigned near the end of those 7 seasons. Megson was made an offer he could not refuse and went to the USA to manage Portland Timbers. Surely also complete disillusion with the board & lack of investment in the team? Seems familiar..... |
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Post by Rex on Feb 17, 2019 11:01:23 GMT
I was there- only my 3rd ever game. Amazing that then you knew as much about football as you do today. Less |
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Post by trymer on Feb 17, 2019 14:02:15 GMT
Not sure if this has been posted before but I found it today and really enjoyed it. Lots of the good old songs Tote End with "you'll never walk alone" (42.17) And I've still got a Don Megson haircut ! I watched this video a while ago, I put it on today and heard 4 different songs in 4 minutes ! there aren't 4 different songs sung at a match now. Totally different experience going to a game in those days,if I was young now and taken to a match I doubt that I would want to go again.
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Post by swissgas on Feb 17, 2019 14:36:01 GMT
Not sure if this has been posted before but I found it today and really enjoyed it. Lots of the good old songs Tote End with "you'll never walk alone" (42.17) And I've still got a Don Megson haircut ! I watched this video a while ago, I put it on today and heard 4 different songs in 4 minutes ! there aren't 4 different songs sung at a match now. Totally different experience going to a game in those days,if I was young now and taken to a match I doubt that I would want to go again.
The songs were what kept me hooked on this video right to the end. You never knew what was coming next and I started humming along to them spontaneously. I also found myself freezing the frame on crowd scenes and studying the faces and fashions and picking out one or two I knew by sight. Yes, these sound like the ramblings of an old fart but there is a serious side to it because, as you say, would the average young person being taken to a match at the Mem today enjoy the experience and want to come back ? So many older Gasheads seem to revel in the current austerity and gloom which IMO is sowing the seeds of an irreversible decline. |
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Post by trymer on Feb 17, 2019 15:03:02 GMT
I watched this video a while ago, I put it on today and heard 4 different songs in 4 minutes ! there aren't 4 different songs sung at a match now. Totally different experience going to a game in those days,if I was young now and taken to a match I doubt that I would want to go again.
The songs were what kept me hooked on this video right to the end. You never knew what was coming next and I started humming along to them spontaneously. I also found myself freezing the frame on crowd scenes and studying the faces and fashions and picking out one or two I knew by sight. Yes, these sound like the ramblings of an old fart but there is a serious side to it because, as you say, would the average young person being taken to a match at the Mem today enjoy the experience and want to come back ? So many older Gasheads seem to revel in the current austerity and gloom which IMO is sowing the seeds of an irreversible decline. To be honest if I was young I doubt that I would want to go very often to a modern all seated stadium either as the atmosphere in them seems non existent (compared to the 70s) lots of the younger blokes that I work with only watch football on TV and never or rarely go to a match...very sad. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 15:08:30 GMT
I watched this video a while ago, I put it on today and heard 4 different songs in 4 minutes ! there aren't 4 different songs sung at a match now. Totally different experience going to a game in those days,if I was young now and taken to a match I doubt that I would want to go again.
The songs were what kept me hooked on this video right to the end. You never knew what was coming next and I started humming along to them spontaneously. I also found myself freezing the frame on crowd scenes and studying the faces and fashions and picking out one or two I knew by sight. Yes, these sound like the ramblings of an old fart but there is a serious side to it because, as you say, would the average young person being taken to a match at the Mem today enjoy the experience and want to come back ? So many older Gasheads seem to revel in the current austerity and gloom which IMO is sowing the seeds of an irreversible decline. I think that's unfair. Maybe you've been reading the exchanges about the difference between old stadiums and the atmosphere they create compared to new jelly mould venues, but I don't think that many people would rather watch us slog out a 1-1 with Macclesfield in a dump than watch us play a CL game in Spurs' new ground. Also, with the tools at our disposal we've done what we could. The Share Scheme was set up by a group of people of an age to have probably been youngsters in the crowd in the Villa video, if it hadn't fallen victim to internal club politics it may even have achieved it's original objectives. We did what we could. The baton has been handed over to Vaughan. Sadly I don't think he's sincere, but someone else will come along in due course and do what can be done from the terraces. You've tried to entice people with serious money and you've found it hard, impossible so far, so as of today's date, the group that you accuse of revelling in austerity have, via their efforts, put well over a million quid more in than you've managed since you left the UK. |
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Post by swissgas on Feb 17, 2019 15:29:58 GMT
The songs were what kept me hooked on this video right to the end. You never knew what was coming next and I started humming along to them spontaneously. I also found myself freezing the frame on crowd scenes and studying the faces and fashions and picking out one or two I knew by sight. Yes, these sound like the ramblings of an old fart but there is a serious side to it because, as you say, would the average young person being taken to a match at the Mem today enjoy the experience and want to come back ? So many older Gasheads seem to revel in the current austerity and gloom which IMO is sowing the seeds of an irreversible decline. I think that's unfair. Maybe you've been reading the exchanges about the difference between old stadiums and the atmosphere they create compared to new jelly mould venues, but I don't think that many people would rather watch us slog out a 1-1 with Macclesfield in a dump than watch us play a CL game in Spurs' new ground. Also, with the tools at our disposal we've done what we could. The Share Scheme was set us by a group of people of an age to have probably been youngsters in the crowd in the Villa video, if it hadn't fallen victim to internal club politics it may even have achieved it's original objectives. We did what we could. The baton has been handed over to Vaughan. Sadly I don't think he's sincere, but someone else will come along in due course and do what can be done from the terraces. You've tried to entice people with serious money and you've found it hard, impossible so far, so as of today's date, the group that you accuse of revelling in austerity have, via their efforts, put well over a million quid more in than you've managed since you left the UK. I was a share scheme member and I agree it set out with noble aims and was a credit to the supporters who organized it. The tools at our disposal include our voices which we seem reluctant to raise even when confronted with the daftness we continually get from our leaders. The youngsters in the 1974 crowd had the drive and energy, when the time came, to actually do something constructive with the share scheme. And as one of them I did a little bit myself in 1987-90 but that is all behind us now. Today, I think the best we can do is to encourage the new generation to reject the notion that daftness is the norm at Rovers and that we can never hope for anything better. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 16:01:57 GMT
I think that's unfair. Maybe you've been reading the exchanges about the difference between old stadiums and the atmosphere they create compared to new jelly mould venues, but I don't think that many people would rather watch us slog out a 1-1 with Macclesfield in a dump than watch us play a CL game in Spurs' new ground. Also, with the tools at our disposal we've done what we could. The Share Scheme was set us by a group of people of an age to have probably been youngsters in the crowd in the Villa video, if it hadn't fallen victim to internal club politics it may even have achieved it's original objectives. We did what we could. The baton has been handed over to Vaughan. Sadly I don't think he's sincere, but someone else will come along in due course and do what can be done from the terraces. You've tried to entice people with serious money and you've found it hard, impossible so far, so as of today's date, the group that you accuse of revelling in austerity have, via their efforts, put well over a million quid more in than you've managed since you left the UK. I was a share scheme member and I agree it set out with noble aims and was a credit to the supporters who organized it. The tools at our disposal include our voices which we seem reluctant to raise even when confronted with the daftness we continually get from our leaders. The youngsters in the 1974 crown had the drive and energy, when the time came, to actually do something constructive with the share scheme. And as one of them I did a little bit myself in 1987-90 but that is all behind us now. Today, I think the best we can do is to encourage the new generation to reject the notion that daftness is the norm at Rovers and that we can never hope for anything better. Cool. Let's get started. Who should I go and shout at? Seriously, pre-Higgs dialogue with the BoD was easy, then Nick seemed to be clear in his own mind what he wanted to do, these owners are sat in an ivory tower. Forget Wael, I don't believe that he's part of any meaningful decision making process. So, what are we supposed to do exactly? Here you go, I've made a start with our protest;  Bad news, the protest has been compromised. I was sat in the middle of the road with my sign when this Dude appeared, I'm not sure if it's infiltration or a counter-protest.  |
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Post by swissgas on Feb 17, 2019 16:18:34 GMT
I was a share scheme member and I agree it set out with noble aims and was a credit to the supporters who organized it. The tools at our disposal include our voices which we seem reluctant to raise even when confronted with the daftness we continually get from our leaders. The youngsters in the 1974 crown had the drive and energy, when the time came, to actually do something constructive with the share scheme. And as one of them I did a little bit myself in 1987-90 but that is all behind us now. Today, I think the best we can do is to encourage the new generation to reject the notion that daftness is the norm at Rovers and that we can never hope for anything better. Cool. Let's get started. Who should I go and shout at? Seriously, pre-Higgs dialogue with the BoD was easy, then Nick seemed to be clear in his own mind what he wanted to do, these owners are sat in an ivory tower. Forget Wael, I don't believe that he's part of any meaningful decision making process. So, what are we supposed to do exactly? It should be a step by step process and the first step is to convince Tom M and younger generation fans like him that they don't have to put up with daftness and deceit. Looking at the crowd at Eastville that day in 1974 we see what now appear to be funny clothes and funny haircuts but back then that was the fashion. Rovers were fashionable. You didn't have to pretend you liked slovenliness and squalor because that was "what being a Gashead was all about". Being a Rovers fan then was being in the mainstream of society and if you are in the mainstream you have a chance of progressing to the next level. Once you accept you will always be bumbling around in the mud at the bottom of the pond then that is where you will stay. Tom M had the gumption to put together a positive open letter to the board so I don't think he wants to stay down there but he and his contemporaries need encouragement. |
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Post by Rex on Feb 18, 2019 9:22:37 GMT
The songs were what kept me hooked on this video right to the end. You never knew what was coming next and I started humming along to them spontaneously. I also found myself freezing the frame on crowd scenes and studying the faces and fashions and picking out one or two I knew by sight. Yes, these sound like the ramblings of an old fart but there is a serious side to it because, as you say, would the average young person being taken to a match at the Mem today enjoy the experience and want to come back ? So many older Gasheads seem to revel in the current austerity and gloom which IMO is sowing the seeds of an irreversible decline. To be honest if I was young I doubt that I would want to go very often to a modern all seated stadium either as the atmosphere in them seems non existent (compared to the 70s) lots of the younger blokes that I work with only watch football on TV and never or rarely go to a match...very sad. Nostalgia isn't what it used to be. |
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Post by dido on Feb 18, 2019 9:54:46 GMT
True, Rex.
Indeed, there is no nostalgia now.
I look back on nostalgia with fondness.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 10:04:03 GMT
The average attendances in 1974 was 13,046, by 1987 it was 3,243. The reasons why the songbook has fallen away is the same reason languages die.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 12:21:17 GMT
The average attendances in 1974 was 13,046, by 1987 it was 3,243. The reasons why the songbook has fallen away is the same reason languages die. Bristol City's promotion to the First Division had a massive impact on Rovers support during the late 70's add to that the 10 years at Twerton and a couple of generations were lost. History could repeat itself and playing in dilapidated tented village isn't helping either. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 13:13:23 GMT
The average attendances in 1974 was 13,046, by 1987 it was 3,243. The reasons why the songbook has fallen away is the same reason languages die. Bristol City's promotion to the First Division had a massive impact on Rovers support during the late 70's add to that the 10 years at Twerton and a couple of generations were lost. History could repeat itself and playing in dilapidated tented village isn't helping either. Don't worry, we have Tom relentlessly rolling out promotional campaigns and developing relationships with the media so that they are constantly talking about us.... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 13:17:05 GMT
Bristol City's promotion to the First Division had a massive impact on Rovers support during the late 70's add to that the 10 years at Twerton and a couple of generations were lost. History could repeat itself and playing in dilapidated tented village isn't helping either. Don't worry, we have Tom relentlessly rolling out promotional campaigns and developing relationships with the media so that they are constantly talking about us.... Ok, all is well 👍 |
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