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Post by emperorsuperbus on Apr 27, 2019 9:29:27 GMT
The average number of points obtained by Clubs staying up (20th place) in the last 10 years is 50.2 The average number of points that 'could' have seen them stay up in the last 10 years is 48.9 (ignoring goal difference) The largest number of points obtained that still saw a Club relegated is 50 (Gills 2009-2010, Notts Cty 2014-2015, Oldham 2017-2018). The lowest number of points obtained that saw a Club survive was 48 (Walsall). The lowest number of points that 'could' have seen a Club survive was 44 in 2011-2012. 51 is pretty safe. (Though we did manage to achieve 51 in 2001-2001 and still went down. A poor 45 points in 2010-2011). 50 and it's sort of 1/3 chance of relegation. 49 and it's not looking good. 48 and below - very probably League 2 football. We have 29 points from 29 games. So 1 point a game. We will need 51 to be 'pretty safe'... 22 points from 17 games. 1.29 points a game. UTG. It's 'interesting' (well maybe I should get out more) - that despite a very congested lower half of the Division, 51 remains the target as this guarantees us safety (with our goal difference). Probably. I liked the Plymouth looked doomed but are now in mid table line. They looked pretty safe when we scarped draw down there. What its been been outside top 8 is a whole lot of evenly matched teams, hard to beat each other but feel disappointed to actually lose to an equal. In on our bad home form we have some decent displays in losses against like of Pompey, Sunderland. But the losses at home to likes of Southend and Wycombe, Walsall, gillingham, Scunthorpe, God they hurt this morning.
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Post by Blue Mist on Apr 27, 2019 9:41:50 GMT
It's 'interesting' (well maybe I should get out more) - that despite a very congested lower half of the Division, 51 remains the target as this guarantees us safety (with our goal difference). Probably. I liked the Plymouth looked doomed but are now in mid table line. They looked pretty safe when we scarped draw down there. What its been been outside top 8 is a whole lot of evenly matched teams, hard to beat each other but feel disappointed to actually lose to an equal. In on our bad home form we have some decent displays in losses against like of Pompey, Sunderland. But the losses at home to likes of Southend and Wycombe, Walsall, gillingham, Scunthorpe, God they hurt this morning. Scarp: noun 1. a very steep bank or slope; an escarpment. "the north face is a very steep scarp" verb 1. cut or erode (a slope or hillside) so that it becomes steep, perpendicular, or precipitous. "the scarped edge of the central plateau" Typo or clever use of English, either way I’d be happy if we scarped a draw.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Apr 27, 2019 12:32:38 GMT
I liked the Plymouth looked doomed but are now in mid table line. They looked pretty safe when we scarped draw down there. What its been been outside top 8 is a whole lot of evenly matched teams, hard to beat each other but feel disappointed to actually lose to an equal. In on our bad home form we have some decent displays in losses against like of Pompey, Sunderland. But the losses at home to likes of Southend and Wycombe, Walsall, gillingham, Scunthorpe, God they hurt this morning. Scarp: noun 1. a very steep bank or slope; an escarpment. "the north face is a very steep scarp" verb 1. cut or erode (a slope or hillside) so that it becomes steep, perpendicular, or precipitous. "the scarped edge of the central plateau" Typo or clever use of English, either way I’d be happy if we scarped a draw. I noticed the pad had autocorrected scrape to scarp, but it was a choice of edit mode or eating a bacon roll. Now, If we could loo roll them over, flush away these concerns, the s**t parts of the season will be down the forgotten tubes of history COYB! and Rochdale as well.
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Post by davehuddscousin on Apr 29, 2019 7:42:47 GMT
Rovers seem to have a unique record for League 1. We were relegated with a high points total (51). We also reached 80 points in 1999/2000 but failed to make the play offs! (In most seasons 80 points are enough.....)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2019 9:30:32 GMT
Who says blokes can't multitask!
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Post by Angas on Apr 29, 2019 10:02:46 GMT
Who says blokes can't multitask! A woman would have edited while eating
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2019 10:03:26 GMT
Who says blokes can't multitask! A woman would have edited while eating and been able to use to quote tool properly.
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Post by eppinggas on May 5, 2019 8:23:49 GMT
The average number of points obtained by Clubs staying up (20th place) in the last 10 years is 50.2 The average number of points that 'could' have seen them stay up in the last 10 years is 48.9 (ignoring goal difference) The largest number of points obtained that still saw a Club relegated is 50 (Gills 2009-2010, Notts Cty 2014-2015, Oldham 2017-2018). The lowest number of points obtained that saw a Club survive was 48 (Walsall). The lowest number of points that 'could' have seen a Club survive was 44 in 2011-2012. 51 is pretty safe. (Though we did manage to achieve 51 in 2001-2001 and still went down. A poor 45 points in 2010-2011). 50 and it's sort of 1/3 chance of relegation.49 and it's not looking good. 48 and below - very probably League 2 football. We have 29 points from 29 games. So 1 point a game. We will need 51 to be 'pretty safe'... 22 points from 17 games. 1.29 points a game. UTG. By a strange quirk of fate exactly 1/3 of the teams reaching 50 points got relegated.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2019 8:59:16 GMT
Darrell Clarke would have kept us up. Well, Coughlan said a while back that Darrell was the main reason that he was at Rovers, so it looks like Darrell did keep us up in the end.
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Post by Igitur on May 5, 2019 9:34:32 GMT
The average number of points obtained by Clubs staying up (20th place) in the last 10 years is 50.2 The average number of points that 'could' have seen them stay up in the last 10 years is 48.9 (ignoring goal difference) The largest number of points obtained that still saw a Club relegated is 50 (Gills 2009-2010, Notts Cty 2014-2015, Oldham 2017-2018). The lowest number of points obtained that saw a Club survive was 48 (Walsall). The lowest number of points that 'could' have seen a Club survive was 44 in 2011-2012. 51 is pretty safe. (Though we did manage to achieve 51 in 2001-2001 and still went down. A poor 45 points in 2010-2011). 50 and it's sort of 1/3 chance of relegation.49 and it's not looking good. 48 and below - very probably League 2 football. We have 29 points from 29 games. So 1 point a game. We will need 51 to be 'pretty safe'... 22 points from 17 games. 1.29 points a game. UTG. By a strange quirk of fate exactly 1/3 of the teams reaching 50 points got relegated. Liking the stats, but if things had gone differently last week in those bad conditions and Barnsley thumped us, like many thought, there would have been four clubs on 50 - ifs and buts and all that. It's better to look at our final position rather than points.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on May 5, 2019 10:32:43 GMT
Darrell Clarke would have kept us up. Well, Coughlan said a while back that Darrell was the main reason that he was at Rovers, so it looks like Darrell did keep us up in the end. Following that train of logic, so did John Ward...(?)
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2019 10:39:11 GMT
Well, Coughlan said a while back that Darrell was the main reason that he was at Rovers, so it looks like Darrell did keep us up in the end. Following that train of logic, so did John Ward...(?) Did Darrell say that he came here mainly because of Ward? Do you have a link or can you copy and paste a quote where Darrell said that please? I can pop a link up to a BBC piece where the present manager says that Darrell was the main reason that he came to Rovers if you like?
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Post by eppinggas on May 5, 2019 10:55:58 GMT
By a strange quirk of fate exactly 1/3 of the teams reaching 50 points got relegated. Liking the stats, but if things had gone differently last week in those bad conditions and Barnsley thumped us, like many thought, there would have been four clubs on 50 - ifs and buts and all that. It's better to look at our final position rather than points. Indeed ifs and buts. Reilly doesn't get that last gasp equalizer at Plymouth... and they (in all likelihood) would have stayed up. J C-H doesn't get that last gasp winner against Bradford... doesn't bare thinking about. Fine margins. A hell of a lot of work to be done over the summer.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on May 6, 2019 0:43:39 GMT
Following that train of logic, so did John Ward...(?) Did Darrell say that he came here mainly because of Ward? Do you have a link or can you copy and paste a quote where Darrell said that please? I can pop a link up to a BBC piece where the present manager says that Darrell was the main reason that he came to Rovers if you like? Yes! DC says he contacted JW whilst at Salisbury to ask about pre season fixtures, and as JW was still looking for a number2, submitted his CV. The rest is history. Shuffle on to 20:20 to hear from the horse's mouth (no pun intended): m.soundcloud.com/ntt20pod/ntt20-pod-meets-darrell-clarke
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2019 9:04:22 GMT
Did Darrell say that he came here mainly because of Ward? Do you have a link or can you copy and paste a quote where Darrell said that please? I can pop a link up to a BBC piece where the present manager says that Darrell was the main reason that he came to Rovers if you like? Yes! DC says he contacted JW whilst at Salisbury to ask about pre season fixtures, and as JW was still looking for a number2, submitted his CV. The rest is history. Shuffle on to 20:20 to hear from the horse's mouth (no pun intended): m.soundcloud.com/ntt20pod/ntt20-pod-meets-darrell-clarkeNot the same thing at all. Darrell wanted the job because he didn't want to get marooned in non-League, he didn't come here because of Ward, he just wanted a job with a League club. Do you have a link or can you copy and paste anything where Darrell says that he came here mainly because of Ward please?
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on May 6, 2019 10:09:04 GMT
Yes! DC says he contacted JW whilst at Salisbury to ask about pre season fixtures, and as JW was still looking for a number2, submitted his CV. The rest is history. Shuffle on to 20:20 to hear from the horse's mouth (no pun intended): m.soundcloud.com/ntt20pod/ntt20-pod-meets-darrell-clarkeNot the same thing at all. Darrell wanted the job because he didn't want to get marooned in non-League, he didn't come here because of Ward, he just wanted a job with a League club. Do you have a link or can you copy and paste anything where Darrell says that he came here mainly because of Ward please? Ah I see your point. You're probably correct, the vacancy was main reason rather than his express desire to work with Wardy. Even though I can't prove anything, I don't think DC would be here if JW didn't like him. So a small credit or finder's fee has to go to JW!
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2019 11:53:51 GMT
Not the same thing at all. Darrell wanted the job because he didn't want to get marooned in non-League, he didn't come here because of Ward, he just wanted a job with a League club. Do you have a link or can you copy and paste anything where Darrell says that he came here mainly because of Ward please? Ah I see your point. You're probably correct, the vacancy was main reason rather than his express desire to work with Wardy. Even though I can't prove anything, I don't think DC would be here if JW didn't like him. So a small credit or finder's fee has to go to JW! I don't know, maybe they got on well when they met, I don't have a problem at all with John taking credit for Darrell deciding to come to Rovers, so maybe a little from column A and a little from column B? Very much liked the bit about offering to walk if/when John lost his job. Hope the owners listen to that and are thoroughly ashamed of themselves, he needed help and some weight taking off of his shoulders, not sacking.
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Post by eppinggas on Sept 9, 2019 9:46:38 GMT
The average number of points obtained by Clubs staying up (20th place) in the last 10 years is 50.2 The average number of points that 'could' have seen them stay up in the last 10 years is 48.9 (ignoring goal difference) The largest number of points obtained that still saw a Club relegated is 50 (Gills 2009-2010, Notts Cty 2014-2015, Oldham 2017-2018). The lowest number of points obtained that saw a Club survive was 48 (Walsall). The lowest number of points that 'could' have seen a Club survive was 44 in 2011-2012. 51 is pretty safe. (Though we did manage to achieve 51 in 2001-2001 and still went down. A poor 45 points in 2010-2011). 50 and it's sort of 1/3 chance of relegation. 49 and it's not looking good. 48 and below - very probably League 2 football. We have 29 points from 29 games. So 1 point a game. We will need 51 to be 'pretty safe'... 22 points from 17 games. 1.29 points a game. UTG. With only 23 teams in the Division this has thrown a bit of a spanner in the works as to what might be required to avoid relegation this season. I think we are more likely to be flirting with relegation again rather than pushing for the play-offs. So if 46 games requires 51 to be "relatively safe" that is 1.11 points per game Therefore 44 games at 1.11 points per game gives you 48.84 (or 49 for the sake of argument). We are currently averaging 1.14 point per game. Just the 41 points to go then. UTG!
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Post by Angas on Sept 9, 2019 12:54:33 GMT
Thanks for dragging this thread up. I got half way down the first page in total confusion before I noticed the date!
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Post by laughinggas on Sept 9, 2019 13:16:02 GMT
The average number of points obtained by Clubs staying up (20th place) in the last 10 years is 50.2 The average number of points that 'could' have seen them stay up in the last 10 years is 48.9 (ignoring goal difference) The largest number of points obtained that still saw a Club relegated is 50 (Gills 2009-2010, Notts Cty 2014-2015, Oldham 2017-2018). The lowest number of points obtained that saw a Club survive was 48 (Walsall). The lowest number of points that 'could' have seen a Club survive was 44 in 2011-2012. 51 is pretty safe. (Though we did manage to achieve 51 in 2001-2001 and still went down. A poor 45 points in 2010-2011). 50 and it's sort of 1/3 chance of relegation. 49 and it's not looking good. 48 and below - very probably League 2 football. We have 29 points from 29 games. So 1 point a game. We will need 51 to be 'pretty safe'... 22 points from 17 games. 1.29 points a game. UTG. With only 23 teams in the Division this has thrown a bit of a spanner in the works as to what might be required to avoid relegation this season. I think we are more likely to be flirting with relegation again rather than pushing for the play-offs. So if 46 games requires 51 to be "relatively safe" that is 1.11 points per game Therefore 44 games at 1.11 points per game gives you 48.84 (or 49 for the sake of argument). We are currently averaging 1.14 point per game. Just the 41 points to go then. UTG! Average is 2 points at home and 0 away. Your figures skewed as played more at home than away. Current form shows on target for 44 points.
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