kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jan 31, 2019 11:29:34 GMT
It certainly would give Lansdowns comment of, in years to come no one will speak of Bristol Rovers, more reason for looking into. We know he is a spiteful man by the buying of Taylor and the welcome to Bristol nonsense. Landsdown is a very successful business man if he could corner the market by eliminating his only rival he would not hesitate sure us diehard gas would never swap sides but Bristol’s growing at an alarming rate and we would be forgotten in a generation I know of a least a couple of posters on here whose sons have gone over to the dark side one even asked his dad for a half season ticket for the piggery for Xmas I still think the knockback landsdown got from dunford hurts him he would love to finish us if he could Totally agree D, i know a few whose kids are red and New Cheltenham is now probably 60/40 in our favour but it was truly a lockout gas area. Personally, I do believe he could have had a hand in this but it’s proof we need and one flippant comment isn’t enough. I now look around me when at games and I see blokes my age and older. It doesn’t bode well. It’s something the owners would have noticed as well. I never thought I’d be saying this but we could well need another Dunford type, to get us out of the 💩 and I reckon within 1 more season.
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Post by vaughan on Jan 31, 2019 11:53:58 GMT
The Fans will have to dig us out of the mess that we are in. Personally I have given up on Waelter Mitty and his disinterested brother.
Let's start with re-building the Mem. Stand by stand.
I am bored of talking about funding options. DYOR.
We also need to find an identity and facilities that will attract a younger fan base. We all look old on match-days.
It could be exciting with the right leadership - the antithesis of the Lansdown Model. It needs leadership, as our fans are loyal, but apathetic ref off the field matters.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 11:58:30 GMT
Landsdown is a very successful business man if he could corner the market by eliminating his only rival he would not hesitate sure us diehard gas would never swap sides but Bristol’s growing at an alarming rate and we would be forgotten in a generation I know of a least a couple of posters on here whose sons have gone over to the dark side one even asked his dad for a half season ticket for the piggery for Xmas I still think the knockback landsdown got from dunford hurts him he would love to finish us if he could Totally agree D, i know a few whose kids are red and New Cheltenham is now probably 60/40 in our favour but it was truly a lockout gas area. Personally, I do believe he could have had a hand in this but it’s proof we need and one flippant comment isn’t enough. I now look around me when at games and I see blokes my age and older. It doesn’t bode well. It’s something the owners would have noticed as well. I never thought I’d be saying this but we could well need another Dunford type, to get us out of the 💩 and I reckon within 1 more season. The script was written, the momentum was there, 2 promotions, back from the brink of oblivion, stadium plan in place, the place was buzzing, we were being talked about, Lansdown was sufficiently worried to go out of his way to take our main striker, pushing for a play off place in L1. You'll need to ask Hani what happened next. But I don't think it's anything to do with UWE not replying to a message we sent. Who knows what actually went on? Maybe Higgs signed things away to fill the gap between £28m and £45m and told the new owners that UWE were not happy to be doing that and would be delighted to give it all back if the build was fully funded then Hani and his Father didn't like it when UWE thought the agreed deal was the only one worth doing? I doubt that we'll ever know exactly what happened.
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jan 31, 2019 12:14:41 GMT
Totally agree D, i know a few whose kids are red and New Cheltenham is now probably 60/40 in our favour but it was truly a lockout gas area. Personally, I do believe he could have had a hand in this but it’s proof we need and one flippant comment isn’t enough. I now look around me when at games and I see blokes my age and older. It doesn’t bode well. It’s something the owners would have noticed as well. I never thought I’d be saying this but we could well need another Dunford type, to get us out of the 💩 and I reckon within 1 more season. The script was written, the momentum was there, 2 promotions, back from the brink of oblivion, stadium plan in place, the place was buzzing, we were being talked about, Lansdown was sufficiently worried to go out of his way to take our main striker, pushing for a play off place in L1. You'll need to ask Hani what happened next. But I don't think it's anything to do with UWE not replying to a message we sent. Who knows what actually went on? Maybe Higgs signed things away to fill the gap between £28m and £45m and told the new owners that UWE were not happy to be doing that and would be delighted to give it all back if the build was fully funded then Hani and his Father didn't like it when UWE thought the agreed deal was the only one worth doing? I doubt that we'll ever know exactly what happened. I can’t forgive the lack of real ambition, after the second promotion. We were in Rovers heaven for a brief period. Just reminds me of Jim Bowen and what he used to say, to losing contestants. Look at what you could’ve won It’s enough to put lots of potential supporters off of coming to games. The only way that I see us surviving is if we get new owners, someone who knows about football and running a club well. Why this lot are hanging around just drives me crazy. You would think they wouldn’t want the reputational damage that will come with the way the club is being run into the ground right now.
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Jan 31, 2019 12:36:39 GMT
The script was written, the momentum was there, 2 promotions, back from the brink of oblivion, stadium plan in place, the place was buzzing, we were being talked about, Lansdown was sufficiently worried to go out of his way to take our main striker, pushing for a play off place in L1. You'll need to ask Hani what happened next. But I don't think it's anything to do with UWE not replying to a message we sent. Who knows what actually went on? Maybe Higgs signed things away to fill the gap between £28m and £45m and told the new owners that UWE were not happy to be doing that and would be delighted to give it all back if the build was fully funded then Hani and his Father didn't like it when UWE thought the agreed deal was the only one worth doing? I doubt that we'll ever know exactly what happened. I can’t forgive the lack of real ambition, after the second promotion. We were in Rovers heaven for a brief period. Just reminds me of Jim Bowen and what he used to say, to losing contestants. Look at what you could’ve won It’s enough to put lots of potential supporters off of coming to games. The only way that I see us surviving is if we get new owners, someone who knows about football and running a club well. Why this lot are hanging around just drives me crazy. You would think they wouldn’t want the reputational damage that will come with the way the club is being run into the ground right now. The owners have said time and time again that their club (it hasn’t been OUR club really since at least moving to the Mem) is not for sale. Why is that so difficult for some people to process?
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jan 31, 2019 12:44:15 GMT
I can’t forgive the lack of real ambition, after the second promotion. We were in Rovers heaven for a brief period. Just reminds me of Jim Bowen and what he used to say, to losing contestants. Look at what you could’ve won It’s enough to put lots of potential supporters off of coming to games. The only way that I see us surviving is if we get new owners, someone who knows about football and running a club well. Why this lot are hanging around just drives me crazy. You would think they wouldn’t want the reputational damage that will come with the way the club is being run into the ground right now. The owners have said time and time again that their club (it hasn’t been OUR club really since at least moving to the Mem) is not for sale. Why is that so difficult for some people to process? Easy one to answer. We have been lied to many times before. Simples
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 12:49:11 GMT
I can’t forgive the lack of real ambition, after the second promotion. We were in Rovers heaven for a brief period. Just reminds me of Jim Bowen and what he used to say, to losing contestants. Look at what you could’ve won It’s enough to put lots of potential supporters off of coming to games. The only way that I see us surviving is if we get new owners, someone who knows about football and running a club well. Why this lot are hanging around just drives me crazy. You would think they wouldn’t want the reputational damage that will come with the way the club is being run into the ground right now. The owners have said time and time again that their club (it hasn’t been OUR club really since at least moving to the Mem) is not for sale. Why is that so difficult for some people to process? ...because they've mislead supporters about the "landing lights" being on regarding the UWE Stadium, they've mislead supporters about timescales of the training ground, and numerous other things. To be fair, they've gone from false promises to just saying f**k all but they have form with not being forthcoming with the truth.
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Jan 31, 2019 12:49:20 GMT
The owners have said time and time again that their club (it hasn’t been OUR club really since at least moving to the Mem) is not for sale. Why is that so difficult for some people to process? Easy one to answer. We have been lied to many times before. Simples We’ve been lied to by every single boardroom in the 40 years I’ve been going, including the sainted Dunford family. Some far more than the current regime. This lot are no better or worse tha previous ‘custodians’, yet get more flack than every previous boardroom put together. It’s sheer rank hypocrisy. But beyond the internet nothing will ever change as a fan base, so it’s all just pissing in the wind really.
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Jan 31, 2019 12:51:31 GMT
The owners have said time and time again that their club (it hasn’t been OUR club really since at least moving to the Mem) is not for sale. Why is that so difficult for some people to process? ...because they've mislead supporters about the "landing lights" being on regarding the UWE Stadium, they've mislead supporters about timescales of the training ground, and numerous other things. To be fair, they've gone from false promises to just saying f all but they have form with not being forthcoming with the truth. Going to do anything about it? Proper things like organising demos, going public on local media, setting up a fans group, even withholding your money until they are gone (the ultimate show of dissatisfaction)? Thought not.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 13:02:50 GMT
...because they've mislead supporters about the "landing lights" being on regarding the UWE Stadium, they've mislead supporters about timescales of the training ground, and numerous other things. To be fair, they've gone from false promises to just saying f all but they have form with not being forthcoming with the truth. Going to do anything about it? Proper things like organising demos, going public on local media, setting up a fans group, even withholding your money until they are gone (the ultimate show of dissatisfaction)? Thought not. That escalated, was just pointing out they've been a bit poor at being truthful.
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Post by trunky on Jan 31, 2019 13:09:37 GMT
If Wael and his cronies had been covertly placed in charge of our club in order to deliberately sabotage and destroy us he wouldn't be doing things much differently than he is doing now. He raised fans expectations with a pack of lies,consistently sold our best players without replacing them, allowed us to function for several seasons without a real striker and that situation looks as though its about to continue with the transfer window closing tonight,and allowed one of the best managers in lower league football to leave. I know it has been joked about but I wouldn't completely rule out Lansdown being involved what else could explain their inexplicable behaviour.
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Post by eppinggas on Jan 31, 2019 13:33:59 GMT
Easy one to answer. We have been lied to many times before. Simples We’ve been lied to by every single boardroom in the 40 years I’ve been going, including the sainted Dunford family. Some far more than the current regime. This lot are no better or worse tha previous ‘custodians’, yet get more flack than every previous boardroom put together. It’s sheer rank hypocrisy. But beyond the internet nothing will ever change as a fan base, so it’s all just pissing in the wind really. " more flack than every previous boardroom put together". How are you measuring that exactly? I would love to see you demonstrate the statistical basis for that hypothesis. I do partly agree with your alcoholic ravaged ramblings though, I think they do get slightly more criticism than previous regimes. I think this is partly down to their utter incompetence at expectation management and their ensuing LIES. Also social media tends to play out fans frustrations to a wider audience than previously. " It’s sheer rank hypocrisy". No it's not. I critisized Higgs. A lot. I critisize the current owners. A lot. That's not hypocrisy, that's consistency. As for knocking the Dunford's - that is just p*ss poor from you. Without them we WOULD NOT HAVE A FOOTBALL CLUB TO FOLLOW. Denis and Geoff are no longer around to defend themselves. I find that particular criticism of them contemptuous. Maybe look up the meaning of hypocrisy before cracking on with the next pint of toilet duck.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 13:37:46 GMT
I can’t forgive the lack of real ambition, after the second promotion. We were in Rovers heaven for a brief period. Just reminds me of Jim Bowen and what he used to say, to losing contestants. Look at what you could’ve won It’s enough to put lots of potential supporters off of coming to games. The only way that I see us surviving is if we get new owners, someone who knows about football and running a club well. Why this lot are hanging around just drives me crazy. You would think they wouldn’t want the reputational damage that will come with the way the club is being run into the ground right now. The owners have said time and time again that their club (it hasn’t been OUR club really since at least moving to the Mem) is not for sale. Why is that so difficult for some people to process? Gordon Brown told everybody what gold he was selling when, that forced the price down. He will always, rightly, be mocked for being so stupid. That's nothing to do with the party he represented by the way, I don't want a political argument, or even discussion, it's just a comment on the folly of certain ways of dealing with taking things to market.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 13:39:48 GMT
Easy one to answer. We have been lied to many times before. Simples We’ve been lied to by every single boardroom in the 40 years I’ve been going, including the sainted Dunford family. Some far more than the current regime. This lot are no better or worse tha previous ‘custodians’, yet get more flack than every previous boardroom put together. It’s sheer rank hypocrisy. But beyond the internet nothing will ever change as a fan base, so it’s all just pissing in the wind really.
Yep, that's where we are. You've nailed it there.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 15:05:28 GMT
I can’t forgive the lack of real ambition, after the second promotion. We were in Rovers heaven for a brief period. Just reminds me of Jim Bowen and what he used to say, to losing contestants. Look at what you could’ve won It’s enough to put lots of potential supporters off of coming to games. The only way that I see us surviving is if we get new owners, someone who knows about football and running a club well. Why this lot are hanging around just drives me crazy. You would think they wouldn’t want the reputational damage that will come with the way the club is being run into the ground right now. The owners have said time and time again that their club (it hasn’t been OUR club really since at least moving to the Mem) is not for sale. Why is that so difficult for some people to process? It's difficult to process because no-one can give a good explanation for why they don't want out. What are they getting out of propping up a club that is in a **** old state in no small thanks to their administration (or lack of). They will never be able to make a profit here in a million years because their pockets aren't deep emough. So why are they still saying they are here for the long haul? Wael won't give up his toy and presidency?
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Post by badbloodash on Jan 31, 2019 16:48:41 GMT
I can’t forgive the lack of real ambition, after the second promotion. We were in Rovers heaven for a brief period. Just reminds me of Jim Bowen and what he used to say, to losing contestants. Look at what you could’ve won It’s enough to put lots of potential supporters off of coming to games. The only way that I see us surviving is if we get new owners, someone who knows about football and running a club well. Why this lot are hanging around just drives me crazy. You would think they wouldn’t want the reputational damage that will come with the way the club is being run into the ground right now. The owners have said time and time again that their club (it hasn’t been OUR club really since at least moving to the Mem) is not for sale. Why is that so difficult for some people to process? The club might not be but the assets might well be soon
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jan 31, 2019 17:13:01 GMT
Easy one to answer. We have been lied to many times before. Simples We’ve been lied to by every single boardroom in the 40 years I’ve been going, including the sainted Dunford family. Some far more than the current regime. This lot are no better or worse tha previous ‘custodians’, yet get more flack than every previous boardroom put together. It’s sheer rank hypocrisy. But beyond the internet nothing will ever change as a fan base, so it’s all just pissing in the wind really. Well, I think this lot are worse and because of the silly spending, on office and experts, instead of the team itself. As you rightly point out we are just pissing into the wind but it vents just a little of the frustration, for me in anycase. IF they had been serious about pushing us on then they’d have invested directly after we gained promotion to L1. In my view we are a club in crisis and could, very easily, lose not just FL status but the club, as it is. I don’t think we have ever been in such a bad place.
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Jan 31, 2019 17:18:17 GMT
The Board compound being useless with such comments as ,'We have 12 experts on building World Class Stadiums we are consulting with,' and 'We cannot update you about our plans for a new stadium /Training complex due to a 'Confidentiality agreement.'Taking us all for mugs.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 17:36:04 GMT
The Board compound being useless with such comments as ,'We have 12 experts on building World Class Stadiums we are consulting with,' and 'We cannot update you about our plans for a new stadium /Training complex due to a 'Confidentiality agreement.'Taking us all for mugs. All as plausible as the imminent snow apocalypse heading our way. Anyone in North Dakota?
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 1, 2019 12:07:57 GMT
The Board compound being useless with such comments as ,'We have 12 experts on building World Class Stadiums we are consulting with,' and 'We cannot update you about our plans for a new stadium /Training complex due to a 'Confidentiality agreement.'Taking us all for mugs. All as plausible as the imminent snow apocalypse heading our way. Anyone in North Dakota? Spoke too soon. Got a foot of it in Kingswood. I’m genuinely fearful as do my shopping today and the council didn’t grit. Seen a few accidents just this morning
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