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Post by crater on Dec 23, 2018 17:12:22 GMT
I've never met Bono or Jon-Jo O'Toole either but I've formed an opinion on their characters... Assume you never met Harold Shipman so you are ambivalent to him then? How can you possibly form any opinion based on hearsay or what is written in the media. I met him just once and he came across as a normal person enthusiastic about football but it is your opinion but I expect people have opinions about you no one is perfect and no one is friends with everyone thstshould life Who Harold Shipman?
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Post by harrybuckle on Dec 23, 2018 17:47:39 GMT
People's votes seem the latest fad at the moment.
Should we form a pressure group headed by Chewy, Bambi and Epping then hire an Eagle coach and produce a catchy slogan on the side.
Have on the poster pictures of Hurst, Cotts, Flynn, Ollie, Archibald, GC and for old time sake DC. Perhaps Tom G could get sponsorship and prepare the voting papers for every season ticket holder to vote on the next manager.
Wael would check the votes and publish details on the website
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2018 17:51:22 GMT
People's votes seem the latest fad at the moment. Should we form a pressure group headed by Chewy, Bambi and Epping then hire an Eagle coach and produce a catchy slogan on the side. Have on the poster pictures of Hurst, Cotts, Flynn, Ollie, Archibald, GC and for old time sake DC. Perhaps Tom G could get sponsorship and prepare the voting papers for every season ticket holder to vote on the next manager. Wael would check the votes and publish details on the website If Gorringe organised the coach it would probably break down. Wael's first instinct would be to slap a confidentiality order on the result.
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Post by Rex on Dec 23, 2018 18:22:01 GMT
Just a simple question do you know him or met him so that you can form this opinion I've never met Bono or Jon-Jo O'Toole either but I've formed an opinion on their characters... Assume you never met Harold Shipman so you are ambivalent to him then? Steve Cotterill gave- in your opinion- bad post match interviews, Harold Shipman murdered lots of people, I'm not really sure if that can be classed as a like for like comparison.
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Post by crater on Dec 23, 2018 19:18:25 GMT
I've never met Bono or Jon-Jo O'Toole either but I've formed an opinion on their characters... Assume you never met Harold Shipman so you are ambivalent to him then? Steve Cotterill gave- in your opinion- bad post match interviews, Harold Shipman murdered lots of people, I'm not really sure if that can be classed as a like for like comparison. Assume you haven't read or understood then
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Dec 23, 2018 23:24:45 GMT
Cotterill is a louse!
Burn the timbers! Break the curse!
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Post by Rex on Dec 24, 2018 7:57:32 GMT
Steve Cotterill gave- in your opinion- bad post match interviews, Harold Shipman murdered lots of people, I'm not really sure if that can be classed as a like for like comparison. Assume you haven't read or understood then I thought you were suggesting that you don't have to meet a person to form an opinion on them- which is true of course- Padstow suggested that you were being unfair on SC as you hadn't met him, you then suggested that Padstow hadn't met Harold Shipman so he would be 'ambivalent' towards him, I'm saying that considering Harold Shipman murdered an awful lot of people, it's probably fair to say most people would make a judgement on his character without having met him, whereas Steve Cotterill is/was a football manager , so many people would cut him a bit more slack. Semantics eh ? You obviously don't want Cotterill here, seemingly based on his personality rather than his ability, which is fair enough, we all have our opinions. I just think he is the right man at the right time, but whether he would come to us or not is another matter. I doubt if he needs the job right now, and I suspect he now knows he is unpopular with a lot of our supporters, the job must look increasingly like a poisoned chalice to him.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2018 8:49:21 GMT
I wonder how Darrel was feeling seeing Cotterill in the directors box, it would probably explain quite a lot regarding the last few meltdowns that resulted in him being forced out. Football is crawling with snakes, I consider anyone of the ilk of Cotterill that openly undermines the incumbent manager in the same way Malcolm Alison did all those years back to Dennis Rofe within that category.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Dec 27, 2018 9:12:31 GMT
I wonder how Darrel was feeling seeing Cotterill in the directors box, it would probably explain quite a lot regarding the last few meltdowns that resulted in him being forced out. Football is crawling with snakes, I consider anyone of the ilk of Cotterill that openly undermines the incumbent manager in the same way Malcolm Alison did all those years back to Dennis Rofe within that category. Probably felt as bad and embarrassed as when DC publicly alluded to board not giving him the budget he wanted, and was commenting on their lack of progress off pitch. This was done to deflect from his tactics and player selection on pitch, but both used poor judgement in taking their grievances public. Anyway, if you believe the rhetoric, Sturrock was a guest of starnes as they go way back, Cotts was a guest of hamer..
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Post by harrybuckle on Dec 27, 2018 9:12:47 GMT
I wonder how Darrel was feeling seeing Cotterill in the directors box, it would probably explain quite a lot regarding the last few meltdowns that resulted in him being forced out. Football is crawling with snakes, I consider anyone of the ilk of Cotterill that openly undermines the incumbent manager in the same way Malcolm Alison did all those years back to Dennis Rofe within that category. Lets get the facts right please. Allison was brought in as a consultant by Ron Craig to assist Dennis Rofe who took exception as undermining his authority.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Dec 27, 2018 9:14:25 GMT
I wonder how Darrel was feeling seeing Cotterill in the directors box, it would probably explain quite a lot regarding the last few meltdowns that resulted in him being forced out. Football is crawling with snakes, I consider anyone of the ilk of Cotterill that openly undermines the incumbent manager in the same way Malcolm Alison did all those years back to Dennis Rofe within that category. Lets get the facts right please. Allison was brought in as a consultant by Ron Craig to assist Dennis Rofe who took exception as undermining his authority. Is that what it says in a book no one got for Xmas?! 😁
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Post by harrybuckle on Dec 27, 2018 9:18:55 GMT
Lets get the facts right please. Allison was brought in as a consultant by Ron Craig to assist Dennis Rofe who took exception as undermining his authority. Is that what it says in a book no one got for Xmas?! 😁 No it was actually in a 2014 book which thousands purchased. How many have you written and had published matey ? Thanks to all those who bought our Bristol Rovers Players Who's Who 1946-2018 for Christmas. I had loads of tremendous feed back and appreciate your comments. Still available for a bargain £20 but not to O2 guy!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2018 9:49:09 GMT
I wonder how Darrel was feeling seeing Cotterill in the directors box, it would probably explain quite a lot regarding the last few meltdowns that resulted in him being forced out. Football is crawling with snakes, I consider anyone of the ilk of Cotterill that openly undermines the incumbent manager in the same way Malcolm Alison did all those years back to Dennis Rofe within that category. Lets get the facts right please. Allison was brought in as a consultant by Ron Craig to assist Dennis Rofe who took exception as undermining his authority. I fail to understand the comments about Cotterill as far as I am concerned the only criteria a manager needs is to be able to improve the side from that of the previous incumbent play decent winning football and at least stop us getting relegated.his previous jobs or comments have no bearing on his ability or not to do the job required which in all honesty is not difficult seeing how badly we have performed the most of this year
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2018 9:53:20 GMT
Is that what it says in a book no one got for Xmas?! 😁 No it was actually in a 2014 book which thousands purchased. How many have you written and had published matey ? Thanks to all those who bought our Bristol Rovers Players Who's Who 1946-2018 for Christmas. I had loads of tremendous feed back and appreciate your comments. Still available for a bargain £20 but not to O2 guy!
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Post by matealotblue on Dec 27, 2018 10:27:19 GMT
Lets get the facts right please. Allison was brought in as a consultant by Ron Craig to assist Dennis Rofe who took exception as undermining his authority. I fail to understand the comments about Cotterill as far as I am concerned the only criteria a manager needs is to be able to improve the side from that of the previous incumbent play decent winning football and at least stop us getting relegated.his previous jobs or comments have no bearing on his ability or not to do the job required which in all honesty is not difficult seeing how badly we have performed the most of this year Well GC has improved the side from the previous incumbent, played (thus far) decent winning football, and may just stop us getting relegated. At least his previous job was within the set up as it is now so is less of an “unknown” in that sense and don’t think he has made any derogatory comments that I am aware of. So for me, on that criteria, he would get the nod, at least to the end of the season over Cotterill. TBF both choices (or any other choice on the list) are a risk and you could make a case for either/any I suppose. What swings it for me now, with time and games starting to run down, is that he seems to have hit the ground running with the squad playing for him and if things go a bit wobbly (which I’m sure will happen) both they and the fans will tough it out together I think. If (when?) the same things happen with Cotterill I think there will be (rightly or wrongly) a short fuse to a meltdown. There will be plenty of similar candidates still available come the summer if needs be.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2018 10:51:19 GMT
Is that what it says in a book no one got for Xmas?! 😁 How many have you written and had published matey ?
Hey Harry, how many countries have you negotiated the withdrawel from a trading block on behalf of? None you say? Thank Christ for that, now you can wind your neck in on that subject and we won't be troubled by any more of your Little Englander rhetoric. Sorry, it was an open goal Have a nice day.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2018 11:02:11 GMT
I fail to understand the comments about Cotterill as far as I am concerned the only criteria a manager needs is to be able to improve the side from that of the previous incumbent play decent winning football and at least stop us getting relegated.his previous jobs or comments have no bearing on his ability or not to do the job required which in all honesty is not difficult seeing how badly we have performed the most of this year Well GC has improved the side from the previous incumbent, played (thus far) decent winning football, and may just stop us getting relegated. At least his previous job was within the set up as it is now so is less of an “unknown” in that sense and don’t think he has made any derogatory comments that I am aware of. So for me, on that criteria, he would get the nod, at least to the end of the season over Cotterill. TBF both choices (or any other choice on the list) are a risk and you could make a case for either/any I suppose. What swings it for me now, with time and games starting to run down, is that he seems to have hit the ground running with the squad playing for him and if things go a bit wobbly (which I’m sure will happen) both they and the fans will tough it out together I think. If (when?) the same things happen with Cotterill I think there will be (rightly or wrongly) a short fuse to a meltdown. There will be plenty of similar candidates still available come the summer if needs be. Agreed which is the point I was trying to make we shouldo judge candidates on what they can do for the club from now on in not what they have said or done previously which was probably taken out of conteXT anyway At present gc.is making a decent fist of things and if it continues then give him the job till end of season then look again.if it is new man bounce then we still have a few weeks to get a new man in
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Dec 27, 2018 13:02:36 GMT
Is that what it says in a book no one got for Xmas?! 😁 No it was actually in a 2014 book which thousands purchased. How many have you written and had published matey ? Thanks to all those who bought our Bristol Rovers Players Who's Who 1946-2018 for Christmas. I had loads of tremendous feed back and appreciate your comments. Still available for a bargain £20 but not to O2 guy!
I can categorically confirm, I have not plageurised, sorry published anything in my life just to make money for myself, no. My genius is my authorisation in forum like here, where we can explore concept and share opinions in a civilised way, and when you're around in a very pleutonic way!
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Post by harrybuckle on Dec 27, 2018 14:02:20 GMT
How many have you written and had published matey ?
Hey Harry, how many countries have you negotiated the withdrawel from a trading block on behalf of? None you say? Thank Christ for that, now you can wind your neck in on that subject and we won't be troubled by any more of your Little Englander rhetoric. Sorry, it was an open goal Have a nice day. six at the last count working on macron harder than dealing with the kit supplier and that's tough...however its been a quiet week due entirely to xmas hols ..never likely to wind anything in my dear chap ..open goal save those for Tommy Nichols please he needs them more than myself. Party time end of March leaving the EU and Rovers safe from relegation with Tom N scoring his tenth of the campaign.
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Post by harrybuckle on Dec 27, 2018 14:05:17 GMT
No it was actually in a 2014 book which thousands purchased. How many have you written and had published matey ? Thanks to all those who bought our Bristol Rovers Players Who's Who 1946-2018 for Christmas. I had loads of tremendous feed back and appreciate your comments. Still available for a bargain £20 but not to O2 guy!
I can categorically confirm, I have not plageurised, sorry published anything in my life just to make money for myself, no. My genius is my authorisation in forum like here, where we can explore concept and share opinions in a civilised way, and when you're around in a very pleutonic way! Publishing and making money are two unlikely things unless you are Dan Brown etc....you a genius I beg to differ ….share opinions yes sure and make snide comments that's about your level enjoy the rest of Christmas.
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