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Post by billyocean on Nov 28, 2018 15:59:41 GMT
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Post by harrybuckle on Nov 28, 2018 17:19:59 GMT
Don't think two tents and some hand driers count as Infrastructure exactly. Don't forget the Bing Bong boxes that don't work and don't actually record who is attending, so no pattern can be established of customer activity. Gorringe really is incompetent. I have passed your comment onto Thomas expect a stern reply from him
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Post by LPGas on Nov 28, 2018 22:30:09 GMT
Money spent on a London Office and senior management who contribute NOTHING. People are surprised DC seems frustrated?!? He needs to get in front of the Board and DEMAND backing. Dwane Sports have been running this Club into the ground ever since the UWE debacle. SOMETHING HAS TO GIVE. But I may be wrong and definitely not defending the owners but wasn't everyone including DC moaning about lack of infrastructure at the club and apart from training ground and stadium isn't that what the Al qadis have provided How do we know that the Office in London isn't anything to do with us but more the Jordanian Bank? Don't forget the pitch, the mid table budget, a coach for everyone, the development team, the U21s, U18's. DC has more facilities that any previous Rovers manager. The fact that he has brought in players who are not good enough is purely down to him. and for those that bemoan the fact that Ellis went, well in the last 20 games of last season we won FOUR games. The spiral started last January, he either didn't realise it, or was unable to stop it.
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Post by LPGas on Nov 28, 2018 22:31:51 GMT
Steve Yates needs to come back. Instead of Marcus Stewart, the striker coach.. Well he has coached Nichols to go on a goal strike
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Post by mangogas15 on Nov 28, 2018 23:04:00 GMT
Steve Yates needs to come back. Instead of Marcus Stewart, the striker coach.. Well he has coached Nichols to go on a goal strike Exactly. We have struggled to score consistently for years, not just the last few months. He has to take some responsibility surely. Too much tinkering. DC doesn't know his best formation or line up. Getting what we deserve at the moment. The players have a lack of belief and a losing mentality. They accept 0 pts far too easily. Lockyer needs to be taken off Captain. Give it to Sercombe. He inspires the most. Bin Upson. A poor signing. Bennett, Nichols, Matthews, Payne, Jakubiak, Reilly, the list goes on. Underperforming players.
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 28, 2018 23:06:40 GMT
But I may be wrong and definitely not defending the owners but wasn't everyone including DC moaning about lack of infrastructure at the club and apart from training ground and stadium isn't that what the Al qadis have provided How do we know that the Office in London isn't anything to do with us but more the Jordanian Bank? Don't forget the pitch, the mid table budget, a coach for everyone, the development team, the U21s, U18's. DC has more facilities that any previous Rovers manager. The fact that he has brought in players who are not good enough is purely down to him. and for those that bemoan the fact that Ellis went, well in the last 20 games of last season we won FOUR games. The spiral started last January, he either didn't realise it, or was unable to stop it. No-one has been able to offer any answer as to who works at the London office and what it is actually used for. I am told you are NOT allowed to visit. We have a head of recruitment - so I presume poor quality players brought in is down to a mix of the hapless Widdrington and DC. It is NOT solely DC's 'fault'. We have no idea about being a "mid-table budget". We don't know our budget - let alone the other 23 Clubs. Though we do know a lot of our budget goes on senior hires, a London office, a development team, the U21s, the U18's . And none of that helps DC right now. I agree the rot set in after Bodin went and we brought in Craig (who is old, but OK), Bennett (hit but mostly miss), and Mensah (remember him, blink and you missed it).
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Post by DudeLebowski on Nov 28, 2018 23:12:04 GMT
How in the seven hells could you assess Reilly as ‘underperforming’?!! Anyone else got any more knee slappers?
Lad gave DC the evils proper style last night, when he calls on Matthews for the final sub. Do not blame him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 23:16:02 GMT
Well he has coached Nichols to go on a goal strike Exactly. We have struggled to score consistently for years, not just the last few months. He has to take some responsibility surely. Too much tinkering. DC doesn't know his best formation or line up. Getting what we deserve at the moment. The players have a lack of belief and a losing mentality. They accept 0 pts far too easily. Lockyer needs to be taken off Captain. Give it to Sercombe. He inspires the most. Bin Upson. A poor signing. Bennett, Nichols, Matthews, Payne, Jakubiak, Reilly, the list goes on. Underperforming players. We scored plenty of goals in the last four seasons under dc though,its only this season we have struggled for goals.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 23:35:34 GMT
Exactly. We have struggled to score consistently for years, not just the last few months. He has to take some responsibility surely. Too much tinkering. DC doesn't know his best formation or line up. Getting what we deserve at the moment. The players have a lack of belief and a losing mentality. They accept 0 pts far too easily. Lockyer needs to be taken off Captain. Give it to Sercombe. He inspires the most. Bin Upson. A poor signing. Bennett, Nichols, Matthews, Payne, Jakubiak, Reilly, the list goes on. Underperforming players. We scored plenty of goals in the last four seasons under dc though,its only this season we have struggled for goals. Goals scored in the last 2 seasons has accurately reflected our finishing position, mid-table, goals conceded is a different story, we've let in loads. For the last 30 games we've forgotten how to score but not how to give goals away. Do you think any of our coaches have ever watched videos of Payne to see how he's scored in the past, I don't.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 0:07:13 GMT
We scored plenty of goals in the last four seasons under dc though,its only this season we have struggled for goals. Goals scored in the last 2 seasons has accurately reflected our finishing position, mid-table, goals conceded is a different story, we've let in loads. For the last 30 games we've forgotten how to score but not how to give goals away. Do you think any of our coaches have ever watched videos of Payne to see how he's scored in the past, I don't. Were above halfway for goals against. Dc would know payne from games v dover and shrewsbury i imagine and he scored more goals than any other shrews player during their 3rd place finish last season. Im not a fan of watching videos but in sure they can be useful. that said payne may have been a panic buy but he is much more likely to score than tom nichols and he is a target so play him i say.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 2:12:46 GMT
How do we know that the Office in London isn't anything to do with us but more the Jordanian Bank? Don't forget the pitch, the mid table budget, a coach for everyone, the development team, the U21s, U18's. DC has more facilities that any previous Rovers manager. The fact that he has brought in players who are not good enough is purely down to him. and for those that bemoan the fact that Ellis went, well in the last 20 games of last season we won FOUR games. The spiral started last January, he either didn't realise it, or was unable to stop it. No-one has been able to offer any answer as to who works at the London office and what it is actually used for. I am told you are NOT allowed to visit. We have a head of recruitment - so I presume poor quality players brought in is down to a mix of the hapless Widdrington and DC. It is NOT solely DC's 'fault'. We have no idea about being a "mid-table budget". We don't know our budget - let alone the other 23 Clubs. Though we do know a lot of our budget goes on senior hires, a London office, a development team, the U21s, the U18's . And none of that helps DC right now. I agree the rot set in after Bodin went and we brought in Craig (who is old, but OK), Bennett (hit but mostly miss), and Mensah (remember him, blink and you missed it). With respect I've said a good number of times that that Will Dubey guy works at the London office, last I heard it has two full time members of staff so there is one other, someone on Asshat says that the CEO works there but I recall that it's another analyst. Either way it is being used in some capacity by Rovers staff but is still a frivolous expense. The justification that all the top clubs have a London office is especially ridiculous when you consider that all the top clubs have top of the range training facilities while ours clean dog s**t off the pitch before they can train. I wish our owners thought about their knickers first before being so eager to put on that fur coat...
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Post by trunky on Nov 29, 2018 8:39:15 GMT
How can anyone possibly blame DC for our present plight he has consistently been forced to sell our best players and not been given the adequate funds to replace them.The blame lies squarely with the board and in all my time of supporting Rovers (from the early sixties) these are without doubt the worst owners I can remember, and there have been some bad ones.
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 29, 2018 9:14:03 GMT
No-one has been able to offer any answer as to who works at the London office and what it is actually used for. I am told you are NOT allowed to visit. We have a head of recruitment - so I presume poor quality players brought in is down to a mix of the hapless Widdrington and DC. It is NOT solely DC's 'fault'. We have no idea about being a "mid-table budget". We don't know our budget - let alone the other 23 Clubs. Though we do know a lot of our budget goes on senior hires, a London office, a development team, the U21s, the U18's . And none of that helps DC right now. I agree the rot set in after Bodin went and we brought in Craig (who is old, but OK), Bennett (hit but mostly miss), and Mensah (remember him, blink and you missed it). With respect I've said a good number of times that that Will Dubey guy works at the London office, last I heard it has two full time members of staff so there is one other, someone on Asshat says that the CEO works there but I recall that it's another analyst. Either way it is being used in some capacity by Rovers staff but is still a frivolous expense. The justification that all the top clubs have a London office is especially ridiculous when you consider that all the top clubs have top of the range training facilities while ours clean dog s*** off the pitch before they can train. I wish our owners thought about their knickers first before being so eager to put on that fur coat... Apologies if you have mentioned Will Dubey working there. (Interestingly enough he is not one of the 30 'senior' hires listed on that web-site). As you say - if we have 2 analysts working there and it costs us £250k a year just in rent, it is an unbelievable waste of money.
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Post by Gregory Stevens on Nov 29, 2018 9:15:43 GMT
I don’t see him losing the players. I see a lot of players with no confidence.
Drawing these conclusions is the predictable conclusions from football fans who relieve their frustration of poor results on the manager.
Payne is the only player who looks half hearted to me.
It’s pretty rare for a team on a bad run to be brimming with confidence.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 9:27:18 GMT
This whole situation is worryingly similar to the position that Hereford United were in before they folded. I was in the middle of that running the Vital Hereford page. Before anybody has a dig I followed both clubs Rovers from birth Hereford from the time we moved there in 1967 and the mighty John Charles was manager. The clowns that took over there behaved in a way that everything and more was promised and nothing delivered. The manager there at that time John Taylor looked haunted by the difficulties he was being expected to overcome, exactly as Darrell looked last night. Darrell was promised state of the art training facilities, a new Stadium, assurances that the team he was building would no longer be constantly dismantled when the vultures come sniffing around the players. He has turned down at least one offer from another club and stayed loyal to us the support, not necessarily those in charge. He just as well piss up the wall and play with the steam as listen to their obvious bulls***. Whoever is running the outfit seem more concerned about ceremonial appointments than delivering the promised forward progression. We have lost 80 goals a season with nothing to replace them, not only that players that were part of the sides backbone. Hamer suggests the money received has been spent, what on???, Prawn Fricking sandwiches ain’t that expensive no matter how many people are being entertained in various hospitality areas. Darrell needs to get in front of them and demand they make good on the promises made before this decay becomes unstoppable. Also watched that Hereford team whilst an RAF Apprentice at Credenhill. Remember when an unknown bloke from Northampton was appointed as assistant to Gary Thomson and he said,'Rovers fans must learn to be patient. Another two-minute wonder, Martin Foyle said much the same. Years later it's, 'Rome wasn't built in a day'.Still patient at 73?? Fast losing it and last night's first half was total garbage. Crikey, small world eh?, my mum used to take me with her while she delivered orders for Baxter’s Butchers out around Credenhill. She also worked in the Bulmers Vaults pub which was a favourite with the Credenhill people. On this Rovers situation it seems to be a continually repeating cycle.
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Post by mangogas15 on Nov 29, 2018 9:38:44 GMT
How do we know that the Office in London isn't anything to do with us but more the Jordanian Bank? Don't forget the pitch, the mid table budget, a coach for everyone, the development team, the U21s, U18's. DC has more facilities that any previous Rovers manager. The fact that he has brought in players who are not good enough is purely down to him. and for those that bemoan the fact that Ellis went, well in the last 20 games of last season we won FOUR games. The spiral started last January, he either didn't realise it, or was unable to stop it. No-one has been able to offer any answer as to who works at the London office and what it is actually used for. I am told you are NOT allowed to visit. We have a head of recruitment - so I presume poor quality players brought in is down to a mix of the hapless Widdrington and DC. It is NOT solely DC's 'fault'. We have no idea about being a "mid-table budget". We don't know our budget - let alone the other 23 Clubs. Though we do know a lot of our budget goes on senior hires, a London office, a development team, the U21s, the U18's . And none of that helps DC right now. I agree the rot set in after Bodin went and we brought in Craig (who is old, but OK), Bennett (hit but mostly miss), and Mensah (remember him, blink and you missed it). Re Reilly. Good insight. But Football is cruel. You don't get half a season to be one minute top scorer in the Scottish Championship then score 1 goal in league one. He would be picked if he was impressing in training. Read between the lines.
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Post by mangogas15 on Nov 29, 2018 9:40:17 GMT
Exactly. We have struggled to score consistently for years, not just the last few months. He has to take some responsibility surely. Too much tinkering. DC doesn't know his best formation or line up. Getting what we deserve at the moment. The players have a lack of belief and a losing mentality. They accept 0 pts far too easily. Lockyer needs to be taken off Captain. Give it to Sercombe. He inspires the most. Bin Upson. A poor signing. Bennett, Nichols, Matthews, Payne, Jakubiak, Reilly, the list goes on. Underperforming players. We scored plenty of goals in the last four seasons under dc though,its only this season we have struggled for goals. There have been times where the strikers have misfired. Nothing like this granted. Stewart doesn't justify this aspect of the role
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Post by mangogas15 on Nov 29, 2018 9:41:07 GMT
We scored plenty of goals in the last four seasons under dc though,its only this season we have struggled for goals. Goals scored in the last 2 seasons has accurately reflected our finishing position, mid-table, goals conceded is a different story, we've let in loads. For the last 30 games we've forgotten how to score but not how to give goals away. Do you think any of our coaches have ever watched videos of Payne to see how he's scored in the past, I don't. Looks like a FIFA purchase. Mmm top scorer at Shrewsbury. Tick
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 10:04:14 GMT
Darrell being made the fall guy by some. Problems at our club are much deeper than our recent results. Darrell deserves our support for as long as he's here but I fear he'll walk as his reputation is being tarnished by being here. Wael, you have let us down and you'll let the best manager we've had in 25 years slip away...you'll not be forgiven And everyone was critical of Higgs just over 3 years ago.this lot make the previous administration look professional.and can you imagine Geoff Dunford letting 4 strikers leave in 18 months for a paltry 1.5 million No, but he did sell three strikers and our captain in 8 months for 2.36 million.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 10:38:51 GMT
Payne is the only player who looks half hearted to me. Not sure which Rovers or which Payne you are watching, he was charging around, chasing 4 defenders on Tuesday, whilst Nichols stood still watching.
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