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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Nov 27, 2018 22:29:26 GMT
What a journey DC has given us. From depths of despair to Wembley wins and last gasp promotion win highs.
But. Tonight I return from a match v Gillingham, who with 10 players, a dodgy offside not given and some decent finishing (amongst other things), where we have no points and find ourselves in the relegation zone.
Any true GasHead, as forgiving as they may be has surely got to love the club enough to think relegation is not an option? Surely?
I see the same same game. Work hard getting nowhere. Passes that don't find their man. Getting to edge of opposition penalty area and Lise possession. No stopping of crosses, no blocking of shots.
Today I saw strikers that don't shoot, defenders that don't block and a keeper that didn't dive until the ball was past him!
We all have our opinions on players, teams, squads, formation and tactics.....but I'm afraid, the only one that really matters has conspired to put us in a place that for me is untenable.
There has been elements of misfortune, I will say in mitigation, and that is unfortunate. I just see that if we keep with the same manager we are down. And I can't allow that.
With hopefully learning from previous mistakes, removing a manager in March is reckless. If there has to be a change, it has to be soon. I'm near the point of losing faith completely. I really think for the future of our league one status, we need a new, fresh change in leadership before the New Year, to give new encumbrance time to evaluate.
I know we can't afford to sack. I have my own opinions on replacement. I know we don't have anyone in authority to take that decision.
DC I feel is something near family and I'm wrestling with heart and head to say what I think is best for our club. He has been a legend and guru, faithful and true, he's even drunk with us in our pub.....I can't bring myself to say it, so I'll just say I'm withdrawing my faith in his management ability until we are safe from relegation.
So disappointed.
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Post by Igitur on Nov 27, 2018 22:40:25 GMT
What a journey DC has given us.
From depths of despair to Wembley wins and last gasp promotion win highs.
We are in one of those depths of despair now.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2018 22:42:45 GMT
He's lost those players, it's clear for all to see.
First goal was miles offside, lino, at least 2 stone overweight and no business anywhere near professional sport, wasn't able to keep up with play, how did our players react? They just shrugged their shoulders, they looked as if they didn't care and just carried on playing at the same slow tempo.
I timed our first shot on target as being in the 53rd minute.
What more do you need to know?
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Post by laughinggas on Nov 27, 2018 22:43:13 GMT
Thing is, now two wins to get out of bottom four and clear depending on other results.
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Post by DudeLebowski on Nov 27, 2018 22:46:54 GMT
So let’s say DC moves on and a fresh appointment is made.
What absolute difference will it make, whilst whoever is running things upstairs is MIA? You’d only hear from Hamer when he’s giving us Partridge commentary on Away days.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Nov 27, 2018 22:48:15 GMT
If we don't change anything, we're down.
If we do, just never know..
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2018 23:15:57 GMT
Just watching DC’s interview after the game, it is clear the situation we are in is the responsibility of those occupying positions of authority at the top if anyone needs booting out it’ s Wael and his all mouth and no substance crew.
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Post by mangogas15 on Nov 27, 2018 23:18:51 GMT
Can we afford DC to take us down and go again? Why not? Then we give him money in Jan to try and stay up. Give him that chance. We owe him.
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Post by vaughan on Nov 27, 2018 23:26:19 GMT
Look, we don't score enough goals.
We have a chance of staying up if we address this.
The current Board will not invest: so we have to find a means of doing this ourselves.
This would shame those who have withdrawn support.
We can moan all day long: but sadly it won't change a thing.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Nov 27, 2018 23:31:21 GMT
Look, we don't score enough goals. We have a chance of staying up if we address this. The current Board will not invest: so we have to find a means of doing this ourselves. This would shame those who have withdrawn support. We can moan all day long: but sadly it won't change a thing. It isn't just a lack of goals. Although we have 4 strikers, only one is ever present, and hes the one whom hasn't scored a league goal yet. Our defence allows all crosses and shots, they don't block anything. Our keeper doesn't save anything. When a ball is cleared, it falls to them....when they clear a ball, it falls to them - even with 10 men! The whole coaching is a shambles. This falls under only one guise....the management, I'm afraid.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2018 23:34:05 GMT
Look, we don't score enough goals. We have a chance of staying up if we address this. The current Board will not invest: so we have to find a means of doing this ourselves.This would shame those who have withdrawn support. We can moan all day long: but sadly it won't change a thing. Cool. How much are you investing?
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Nov 27, 2018 23:39:27 GMT
Can we afford DC to take us down and go again? Why not? Then we give him money in Jan to try and stay up. Give him that chance. We owe him. Noooooo, we can't afford one relegation. That's a dereliction of duty. DC recruitment has been in this calendar year, appalling. We all knew Browner was off before the end of last season. He hasn't been replaced. When DC had literally months to choose. We are relied on two keepers he wasn't happy with, both played exactly the same amount of games last season and neither are first choice this season. His signature signing that he courted for ages, Bennett is at best ok sometimes. But hardly an inspiration. His first signing in close season rarely gets a start. Upson. Whom said in October on g20man show that now he was settled in a home near Thornbury, in the sticks, we can expect an UPturn from UPson form. Ok....? When? Matthews Rodman and Payne I think it's best to say jury out. Awful signings, can't be trusted in January based on what we see already. Heart beats his name, head says insane.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 0:36:51 GMT
I'll be blunt:
If DC goes it's win win for me. We are almost certainly relegated if he stays. Probably relegated even if he goes but a new face might just get the tactics and man management right to get some results out of this lot- it is beyond DC.
And if DC goes we may finally see this fanbase wake up and bare it's teeth at the onwers who have been taking the piss under the radar for years.
Taking DC away from the denizens of Asschat will be like taking an alcoholic's can of special brew. They are going to be very, very, very angry indeed and this time no amount of wheeling Hamer out to utter his bulls**t analogies is going to rock them back to sleep.
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Post by mangogas15 on Nov 28, 2018 7:22:07 GMT
Can we afford DC to take us down and go again? Why not? Then we give him money in Jan to try and stay up. Give him that chance. We owe him. Noooooo, we can't afford one relegation. That's a dereliction of duty. DC recruitment has been in this calendar year, appalling. We all knew Browner was off before the end of last season. He hasn't been replaced. When DC had literally months to choose. We are relied on two keepers he wasn't happy with, both played exactly the same amount of games last season and neither are first choice this season. His signature signing that he courted for ages, Bennett is at best ok sometimes. But hardly an inspiration. His first signing in close season rarely gets a start. Upson. Whom said in October on g20man show that now he was settled in a home near Thornbury, in the sticks, we can expect an UPturn from UPson form. Ok....? When? Matthews Rodman and Payne I think it's best to say jury out. Awful signings, can't be trusted in January based on what we see already. Heart beats his name, head says insane. Give him the last window. Sort out the one player we need. Buy Eaves or Marquis. Get Gillingham to name their price. IF we go down we take it on the chin because it happens and get DC to go again. I'm not giving up on him.
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Post by harrybuckle on Nov 28, 2018 7:33:20 GMT
With the second half of the season up on us after xmas DC could inspire a push for the play offs KEEP THE FAITH IN DC WE TRUST. Still feel a Wembley appearance a possibility in the glorious Checkatrade Trophy.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 28, 2018 7:36:57 GMT
What a journey DC has given us. From depths of despair to Wembley wins and last gasp promotion win highs. But. Tonight I return from a match v Gillingham, who with 10 players, a dodgy offside not given and some decent finishing (amongst other things), where we have no points and find ourselves in the relegation zone. Any true GasHead, as forgiving as they may be has surely got to love the club enough to think relegation is not an option? Surely? I see the same same game. Work hard getting nowhere. Passes that don't find their man. Getting to edge of opposition penalty area and Lise possession. No stopping of crosses, no blocking of shots. Today I saw strikers that don't shoot, defenders that don't block and a keeper that didn't dive until the ball was past him! We all have our opinions on players, teams, squads, formation and tactics.....but I'm afraid, the only one that really matters has conspired to put us in a place that for me is untenable. There has been elements of misfortune, I will say in mitigation, and that is unfortunate. I just see that if we keep with the same manager we are down. And I can't allow that. With hopefully learning from previous mistakes, removing a manager in March is reckless. If there has to be a change, it has to be soon. I'm near the point of losing faith completely. I really think for the future of our league one status, we need a new, fresh change in leadership before the New Year, to give new encumbrance time to evaluate. I know we can't afford to sack. I have my own opinions on replacement. I know we don't have anyone in authority to take that decision. DC I feel is something near family and I'm wrestling with heart and head to say what I think is best for our club. He has been a legend and guru, faithful and true, he's even drunk with us in our pub.....I can't bring myself to say it, so I'll just say I'm withdrawing my faith in his management ability until we are safe from relegation. So disappointed. Very fair comment and I think spot on. It’s obvious that we lack leadership but in management and on the pitch. We have the quietest team I’ve ever seen and a player who is just not a captain. As much as I think you’re right, I can’t see DC being sacked but I did hear him sounding like he could make that decision himself, I have never heard him as low as in last nights post match interview. I don’t see the assurances he seeks as being given. He alluded to sometimes having to find the money for a decent striker/strikers but they may well spin him a story, it’s not like they haven’t got previous form on that point as you say, very sad times as DC has been great but he is lost and he sounded like he knows it. Worrying times indeed
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 28, 2018 7:41:49 GMT
With the second half of the season up on us after xmas DC could inspire a push for the play offs KEEP THE FAITH IN DC WE TRUST. Still feel a Wembley appearance a possibility in the glorious Checkatrade Trophy. How do we trust him when he is very obviously at his lowest ebb ? When he, himself, acknowledges that he can’t sort his team then none of us can have complete faith in him.
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Post by harrybuckle on Nov 28, 2018 7:56:04 GMT
With the second half of the season up on us after xmas DC could inspire a push for the play offs KEEP THE FAITH IN DC WE TRUST. Still feel a Wembley appearance a possibility in the glorious Checkatrade Trophy. How do we trust him when he is very obviously at his lowest ebb ? When he, himself, acknowledges that he can’t sort his team then none of us can have complete faith in him. He clearly has been let down by many under performing players and they need to show what they are made of. Just as well no match on Saturday to prepare for Doncaster and Swansea matches. Worried about Bonham being injured.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 28, 2018 8:02:03 GMT
Look, we don't score enough goals. We have a chance of staying up if we address this. The current Board will not invest: so we have to find a means of doing this ourselves.This would shame those who have withdrawn support. We can moan all day long: but sadly it won't change a thing. Cool. How much are you investing? We invest by turning up but we surely cannot survive, let alone thrive, on crowds of 6.5K and will probably get to 5 if we don’t see some wins. I think most of the sane fans will have seen this coming after selling our best and replacing them with players who are not playing to potential or who are just not good enough but Payne was Shrewsbury’s top scorer, Upson was scoring as was Nichols but they don’t reproduce that with us. I was told the players were arguing with one another when Browner left and that Lines has been a problem in this but I can’t confirm that with anyone but one person but he would know. It’s time the experts employed earned their money. A case of too many chiefs, surely. Thing is AN Other manager would have to deal with the same, so I’d venture a guess a new manager would find it just as difficult so it’s not just a simple fix. Personally I’m worried relegation would cost us much more than league position. I can’t forgive the owners in letting the best momentum we have had in decades, just trickle away. We have seen them lose that momentum and see us slide into how we were under the previous chairman & that’s unforgivable, for me
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 9:25:05 GMT
This whole situation is worryingly similar to the position that Hereford United were in before they folded. I was in the middle of that running the Vital Hereford page. Before anybody has a dig I followed both clubs Rovers from birth Hereford from the time we moved there in 1967 and the mighty John Charles was manager. The clowns that took over there behaved in a way that everything and more was promised and nothing delivered. The manager there at that time John Taylor looked haunted by the difficulties he was being expected to overcome, exactly as Darrell looked last night. Darrell was promised state of the art training facilities, a new Stadium, assurances that the team he was building would no longer be constantly dismantled when the vultures come sniffing around the players. He has turned down at least one offer from another club and stayed loyal to us the support, not necessarily those in charge. He just as well piss up the wall and play with the steam as listen to their obvious bulls**t. Whoever is running the outfit seem more concerned about ceremonial appointments than delivering the promised forward progression. We have lost 80 goals a season with nothing to replace them, not only that players that were part of the sides backbone. Hamer suggests the money received has been spent, what on???, Prawn Fricking sandwiches ain’t that expensive no matter how many people are being entertained in various hospitality areas. Darrell needs to get in front of them and demand they make good on the promises made before this decay becomes unstoppable.
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