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Post by Curly Wurly on Nov 3, 2018 21:24:29 GMT
I still moan about amateurism at Rovers, but it all started with Joe f'ing 90!!!.... I think you give him too much credit vaughan!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2018 16:04:48 GMT
Where can I find this website ? If I told you I would have to kill you ...its under construction as they say in the IT world.
Will announce details next week. Items are being uploaded as I speak.
I look forward that (the announcement not being killed).
History
I found out something about a former Rovers player today that I didn't know before,if its true. Reading about Tony Craigs great goal at Blackpool started a memory of the first time that I saw Rovers at Blackpool, 1975 a 4_1 win, I thought that Wilf Smith scored a great goal. Looking through my old programmes I see that Wilf did indeed score one, one that Bruce Bannister called 'a great goal', my mate used to call him 'Wonder Wilf' after that day. So I looked up Wilf Smith on Wikipedia and it says that he was born in Germany (German parents) and his name was Wilfred Schmidt which was Anglicised to Wilfred smith when the family moved to England,now I never knew that but I do know that everything that's on Wikipedia isn't always true so does anyone know if this is correct ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2018 16:06:25 GMT
Joe 90,I will always remember him as one of the people who was always at away games in the 70s, Rovers through and through.
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Post by harrybuckle on Nov 4, 2018 16:12:40 GMT
Joe 90,I will always remember him as one of the people who was always at away games in the 70s, Rovers through and through. In fact Jim was at Blackpool yesterday
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Post by harrybuckle on Nov 4, 2018 16:16:49 GMT
If I told you I would have to kill you ...its under construction as they say in the IT world.
Will announce details next week. Items are being uploaded as I speak.
I look forward that (the announcement not being killed).
History
I found out something about a former Rovers player today that I didn't know before,if its true. Reading about Tony Craigs great goal at Blackpool started a memory of the first time that I saw Rovers at Blackpool, 1975 a 4_1 win, I thought that Wilf Smith scored a great goal. Looking through my old programmes I see that Wilf did indeed score one, one that Bruce Bannister called 'a great goal', my mate used to call him 'Wonder Wilf' after that day. So I looked up Wilf Smith on Wikipedia and it says that he was born in Germany (German parents) and his name was Wilfred Schmidt which was Anglicised to Wilfred smith when the family moved to England,now I never knew that but I do know that everything that's on Wikipedia isn't always true so does anyone know if this is correct ?
You should get that superb book only 20 quid called Bristol Rovers Players Who's who the entry for Smith who is now a multi millionaire is as follows
WILFRED SAMUEL SMITH b 3.9.1946 Neumünster, Germany 5’ 10”; 11 st 3 lbs FB Début: 11.3.75 v Fulham Career: Pipworth Road School; Sheffield Boys; November 1962 Sheffield Wednesday (professional, 4.9.63) [206,4]; 31.8.70 Coventry City (£100,000) [132+3,1]; 14.10.74 Brighton (loan) [5,0]; 16.1.75 Millwall (loan) [5,0]; 4.3.75 Bristol Rovers (£25,000) [54,2]; November 1976 Chesterfield [26+1,2]; December 1977 Atherstone Town.
Born Wilfred (or possibly Wolfgang) Schmidt, to an English father and German mother in a town in Schleswig-Holstein, some forty miles north of Hamburg, reliable right-back Wilf Smith anglicised his name on arrival in Yorkshire as a child. The young man excelled at swimming, cricket and football. Captain of Sheffield Boys, he also captained England Youth, won six caps for the England Under-23 side and represented the Football League on three occasions between 1967 and 1970. The first full-back to be transferred in the Football League for a £100,000 fee, he had experienced top-flight football at Wednesday as a team-mate of Alan Warboys and Don Megson, who signed him for Rovers. The highlight of Smith’s stay at Hillsborough was undeniably an appearance in the 1966 FA Cup Final, where a 100,000 crowd was treated to a hugely enjoyable game. “Here was a match in which there was no loser and where the game of football itself was the winner”, purred The Times, “Sheffield, indeed, seemed to have all the time in the world to go about their business of upsetting the favourites, like Walter Hammond batting on a turning wicket”. Despite this reference to an inter-war Rovers player, Wednesday could not hold on to a two-goal lead inside 57 minutes, in a match controlled by 1974 World Cup Final referee Jack Taylor; proving too strong, Everton won the prestigious trophy with three goals in the final fifteen minutes and Wednesday were accorded the honour of being the first losing side to perform a Wembley lap of honour. Working under Megson at Eastville, he played in each of the side’s first three seasons back in Division Two and scored in a 4-1 win at Blackpool in October 1975 and a 4-2 defeat at Carlisle over Easter 1976. Equally, he scored in Chesterfield’s home fixtures against Port Vale and Oxford United in the spring of 1977. Retiring from football to open supermarkets in Nuneaton and Blaby, his empire increased to seven retail outlets and Smith, reputed to be a millionaire as a result of his business work, now lives in retirement in Leicestershire.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2018 16:26:14 GMT
I look forward that (the announcement not being killed).
History
I found out something about a former Rovers player today that I didn't know before,if its true. Reading about Tony Craigs great goal at Blackpool started a memory of the first time that I saw Rovers at Blackpool, 1975 a 4_1 win, I thought that Wilf Smith scored a great goal. Looking through my old programmes I see that Wilf did indeed score one, one that Bruce Bannister called 'a great goal', my mate used to call him 'Wonder Wilf' after that day. So I looked up Wilf Smith on Wikipedia and it says that he was born in Germany (German parents) and his name was Wilfred Schmidt which was Anglicised to Wilfred smith when the family moved to England,now I never knew that but I do know that everything that's on Wikipedia isn't always true so does anyone know if this is correct ?
You should get that superb book only 20 quid called Bristol Rovers Players Who's who the entry for Smith who is now a multi millionaire is as follows
WILFRED SAMUEL SMITH b 3.9.1946 Neumünster, Germany 5’ 10”; 11 st 3 lbs FB Début: 11.3.75 v Fulham Career: Pipworth Road School; Sheffield Boys; November 1962 Sheffield Wednesday (professional, 4.9.63) [206,4]; 31.8.70 Coventry City (£100,000) [132+3,1]; 14.10.74 Brighton (loan) [5,0]; 16.1.75 Millwall (loan) [5,0]; 4.3.75 Bristol Rovers (£25,000) [54,2]; November 1976 Chesterfield [26+1,2]; December 1977 Atherstone Town.
Born Wilfred (or possibly Wolfgang) Schmidt, to an English father and German mother in a town in Schleswig-Holstein, some forty miles north of Hamburg, reliable right-back Wilf Smith anglicised his name on arrival in Yorkshire as a child. The young man excelled at swimming, cricket and football. Captain of Sheffield Boys, he also captained England Youth, won six caps for the England Under-23 side and represented the Football League on three occasions between 1967 and 1970. The first full-back to be transferred in the Football League for a £100,000 fee, he had experienced top-flight football at Wednesday as a team-mate of Alan Warboys and Don Megson, who signed him for Rovers. The highlight of Smith’s stay at Hillsborough was undeniably an appearance in the 1966 FA Cup Final, where a 100,000 crowd was treated to a hugely enjoyable game. “Here was a match in which there was no loser and where the game of football itself was the winner”, purred The Times, “Sheffield, indeed, seemed to have all the time in the world to go about their business of upsetting the favourites, like Walter Hammond batting on a turning wicket”. Despite this reference to an inter-war Rovers player, Wednesday could not hold on to a two-goal lead inside 57 minutes, in a match controlled by 1974 World Cup Final referee Jack Taylor; proving too strong, Everton won the prestigious trophy with three goals in the final fifteen minutes and Wednesday were accorded the honour of being the first losing side to perform a Wembley lap of honour. Working under Megson at Eastville, he played in each of the side’s first three seasons back in Division Two and scored in a 4-1 win at Blackpool in October 1975 and a 4-2 defeat at Carlisle over Easter 1976. Equally, he scored in Chesterfield’s home fixtures against Port Vale and Oxford United in the spring of 1977. Retiring from football to open supermarkets in Nuneaton and Blaby, his empire increased to seven retail outlets and Smith, reputed to be a millionaire as a result of his business work, now lives in retirement in Leicestershire.
Thanks for that,interesting stuff. Yes I should get the book.
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Post by harrybuckle on Nov 4, 2018 20:31:22 GMT
Have you got a treasured piece of Rovers football Memorabilia gathering dust in your loft or tucked away in a drawer or an old shoe box ?
Whether this is a signed shirt, football, pennant, postcard, programmes, autographs, match ticket stubs, team or player photographs, scrapbooks or even Andy Spring's shin pads !
Why not share your treasure with a new group of collectors who have very recently formed - Bristol Rovers History Group. Our aim is to record items of memorabilia held by fans for other fans to appreciate be it current or future generations. Please contact us via our Facebook page Bristol Rovers Legends or via eastvillegas@live.co.uk
We hope to organise a display of items from various fans collections at a future Rovers home match in the New Year. We are uploading items onto a website and details will be issued in the next couple of weeks.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2018 20:38:55 GMT
Joe 90 is Jim Staynings. He had ginger hair and wore glasses. He organised coaches for the Supporters Club and was the personification of annoying. If he organised a trip to Blackpool Illuminations, you would probably end up in Wookey Hole with a single candle. For me, he epitomized everything that was substandard, inefficient and amateurish about BRFC. He also had the ugliest of jitter mates called Edwards. When they both collected money for the driver, I wanted to punch them. He had a song named after him.. Joe, Joe, Joe 90 Who the f'ing he'll is he. I still moan about amateurism at Rovers, but it all started with Joe f'ing 90!!! I once went to a hypnothetapist to try and get his facial image erased from my memory. It clearly was £50 wasted. Jim Staynings lived in Southmead and was a city fan in his youth, after being bullied by the Southmead city fans he changed to the Rovers. His city supporting sister was a good crack though.
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Post by vaughan on Nov 4, 2018 20:42:30 GMT
It was good that he overcame the bullying.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2018 20:46:36 GMT
ADMIN: POST DELETED: Let's have some decorum. It's not appropriate to make disparaging misogynist remarks and then name the person.
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Post by The Concept on Nov 4, 2018 21:21:04 GMT
Talking of BRFC history and commercial activities, this takes me back to the Geoff Bradford book launch. It was there that Screen Soccer were showing short clips of old Pathé News footage of Geoff in action - a couple of FA Cup games and his England goal, if I remember right.
I asked on the forum whether anyone knew if I'd be able to find the footage anywhere, and it was then that I worked out the identity of harrybuckle, of this Parish. I received a PM from ar 'arry, offering to stick it on a DVD for me for £15.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2018 21:27:41 GMT
Talking of BRFC history and commercial activities, this takes me back to the Geoff Bradford book launch. It was there that Screen Soccer were showing short clips of old Pathé News footage of Geoff in action - a couple of FA Cup games and his England goal, if I remember right. I asked on the forum whether anyone knew if I'd be able to find the footage anywhere, and it was then that I worked out the identity of harrybuckle, of this Parish. I received a PM from ar 'arry, offering to stick it on a DVD for me for £15. I've seen the 4-3 cup win at city on you tube, when Bradford got the winner. Never seen any other footage though from back then.
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Post by The Concept on Nov 4, 2018 21:36:20 GMT
Talking of 'Oral Histories' …
It's something you hear a lot about nowadays, where the memories of people and communities are recorded for posterity.
And it's always surprised me that Screen Soccer haven't put out DVDs of interviews with former players - maybe focussing on a certain era or promotion winning team. Through their sister company 1st Take, they've regularly put out history DVDs about the local area, containing interviews with older residents of a town, workers from a certain local factory, and getting their stories recorded.
There have been some great stories told with GT's Radio Bristol interviews on Having A Gas, and also the Sub's Bench TV programme.
Would be great if Screen Soccer could interview former players, interspersed with some football action - some of the 50s and 60s players won't be here forever, but their stories can be if recorded.
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Post by harrybuckle on Nov 5, 2018 15:34:29 GMT
Talking of BRFC history and commercial activities, this takes me back to the Geoff Bradford book launch. It was there that Screen Soccer were showing short clips of old Pathé News footage of Geoff in action - a couple of FA Cup games and his England goal, if I remember right. I asked on the forum whether anyone knew if I'd be able to find the footage anywhere, and it was then that I worked out the identity of harrybuckle, of this Parish. I received a PM from ar 'arry, offering to stick it on a DVD for me for £15. Yes I have the footage cost me quite a lot to buy from pathe as they have own copyright I have a clip only a few seconds from1928 Glos Cup Final Rovers v City.
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Post by harrybuckle on Nov 5, 2018 15:35:29 GMT
Talking of 'Oral Histories' … It's something you hear a lot about nowadays, where the memories of people and communities are recorded for posterity. And it's always surprised me that Screen Soccer haven't put out DVDs of interviews with former players - maybe focussing on a certain era or promotion winning team. Through their sister company 1st Take, they've regularly put out history DVDs about the local area, containing interviews with older residents of a town, workers from a certain local factory, and getting their stories recorded. There have been some great stories told with GT's Radio Bristol interviews on Having A Gas, and also the Sub's Bench TV programme. Would be great if Screen Soccer could interview former players, interspersed with some football action - some of the 50s and 60s players won't be here forever, but their stories can be if recorded. Dave Rogers says it is not commercially viable todo what you suggest. Money talks
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Post by The Concept on Nov 5, 2018 19:14:11 GMT
Talking of BRFC history and commercial activities, this takes me back to the Geoff Bradford book launch. It was there that Screen Soccer were showing short clips of old Pathé News footage of Geoff in action - a couple of FA Cup games and his England goal, if I remember right. I asked on the forum whether anyone knew if I'd be able to find the footage anywhere, and it was then that I worked out the identity of harrybuckle, of this Parish. I received a PM from ar 'arry, offering to stick it on a DVD for me for £15. Yes I have the footage cost me quite a lot to buy from pathe as they have own copyright I have a clip only a few seconds from1928 Glos Cup Final Rovers v City. Well, if you've paid a lot of your own money to buy the footage from Pathé, that's your prerogative. If you think you can burn 10/15 minutes of Pathé footage onto a blank disc, and flog it off for £15, you've got another think coming.
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Post by Angas on Nov 5, 2018 19:25:03 GMT
Yes I have the footage cost me quite a lot to buy from pathe as they have own copyright I have a clip only a few seconds from1928 Glos Cup Final Rovers v City. Well, if you've paid a lot of your own money to buy the footage from Pathé, that's your prerogative. If you think you can burn 10/15 minutes of Pathé footage onto a blank disc, and flog it off for £15, you've got another think coming. Not sure it would be legal anyway, if Pathé own the copyright? (Pirate dvd would be quite apt though )
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Post by The Concept on Nov 5, 2018 19:32:57 GMT
Talking of 'Oral Histories' … It's something you hear a lot about nowadays, where the memories of people and communities are recorded for posterity. And it's always surprised me that Screen Soccer haven't put out DVDs of interviews with former players - maybe focussing on a certain era or promotion winning team. Through their sister company 1st Take, they've regularly put out history DVDs about the local area, containing interviews with older residents of a town, workers from a certain local factory, and getting their stories recorded. There have been some great stories told with GT's Radio Bristol interviews on Having A Gas, and also the Sub's Bench TV programme. Would be great if Screen Soccer could interview former players, interspersed with some football action - some of the 50s and 60s players won't be here forever, but their stories can be if recorded. Dave Rogers says it is not commercially viable todo what you suggest. Money talks That's a great shame, but understandable if not commercially viable. You could have a steady supply of material, if you interviewed the various promotion winning squads... Could be getting ready for a soon to be 30th anniversary: 1989/90 - Plenty of stories to be recorded, still fresh in the mind, from a team with great character. Then there'd only be a short period of time before a 70th anniversary is celebrated: 1952/53 - Can't be many of the team still with us. Any others beside Josser Watling? I suppose you could interview supporters who were there to witness that season. 1973/74 - Lots of nostalgia for many present day supporters, with a 50th anniversary on the horizon. Most of the players would be able to contribute. 2014/15 & 2015/16 - Too soon really - need to give it a decade or two before looking back. 2006/07 - Would be 20 years on by the time you get to this one.
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Post by harrybuckle on Nov 6, 2018 8:07:58 GMT
Dave Rogers says it is not commercially viable todo what you suggest. Money talks That's a great shame, but understandable if not commercially viable. You could have a steady supply of material, if you interviewed the various promotion winning squads... Could be getting ready for a soon to be 30th anniversary: 1989/90 - Plenty of stories to be recorded, still fresh in the mind, from a team with great character. Then there'd only be a short period of time before a 70th anniversary is celebrated: 1952/53 - Can't be many of the team still with us. Any others beside Josser Watling? I suppose you could interview supporters who were there to witness that season. 1973/74 - Lots of nostalgia for many present day supporters, with a 50th anniversary on the horizon. Most of the players would be able to contribute. 2014/15 & 2015/16 - Too soon really - need to give it a decade or two before looking back. 2006/07 - Would be 20 years on by the time you get to this one. 1953 Promotion side Goalkeeper Howard Radford is still around lives in Devon. Seriously thinking of oral histories but need help cant do it all myself.
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Post by The Concept on Nov 7, 2018 21:35:30 GMT
That's a great shame, but understandable if not commercially viable. You could have a steady supply of material, if you interviewed the various promotion winning squads... Could be getting ready for a soon to be 30th anniversary: 1989/90 - Plenty of stories to be recorded, still fresh in the mind, from a team with great character. Then there'd only be a short period of time before a 70th anniversary is celebrated: 1952/53 - Can't be many of the team still with us. Any others beside Josser Watling? I suppose you could interview supporters who were there to witness that season. 1973/74 - Lots of nostalgia for many present day supporters, with a 50th anniversary on the horizon. Most of the players would be able to contribute. 2014/15 & 2015/16 - Too soon really - need to give it a decade or two before looking back. 2006/07 - Would be 20 years on by the time you get to this one. 1953 Promotion side Goalkeeper Howard Radford is still around lives in Devon. Seriously thinking of oral histories but need help cant do it all myself.
All the best with that; perhaps speak to Nigel Turner and Richard Latham, to see if they could help. You don't really need to interview as such, just a matter setting a camera up, saying "Tell me about …", watching the sparkle in their eyes as they reminisce, and maybe guiding them here and there. The important thing to do is get the memories recorded - you don't need to worry about getting anything DVD ready at this stage. There is an excellent 3 part series on BBC4, commemorating 100 years since the end of WWI, the last of the series is on right now - WWI: The Last of The Tommies: www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0brjt4jIt's over 9 years since the very last Tommy, Harry Patch, passed on. But the thing is that the 'Oral History' interviews have been conducted over the past 25 years. And there are still people alive being interviewed - those who lived through WWI in their youth and have stories to tell. The style being the people left to talk, fitted together by a narrator, and interspersed with photos and film footage.
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