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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 21, 2018 16:46:05 GMT
6 shots on target, 5 goals. Who have Hull got in goal, Billy The Fish? No, they have agent Fielding ! In other news, Darrell says we are where we deserve to be, the table doesn't lie. There will be moves in the summer. Support to the strikers poor. James Clarke gave away silly goal. We want to progress to be challenging in play offs and there might be a few changes. Safe journey, Gas. As Wigan are promoted today. Blackburn will be surely next, if Rotherham go up via play offs it'll be first time I can remember all three going up immediately from relegation. The gulf between Championship and League One gets bigger, hence next season gets more competitive....another dc quote.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2018 16:55:11 GMT
6 shots on target, 5 goals. Who have Hull got in goal, Billy The Fish? No, they have agent Fielding ! In other news, Darrell says we are where we deserve to be, the table doesn't lie. There will be moves in the summer. Support to the strikers poor. James Clarke gave away silly goal. We want to progress to be challenging in play offs and there might be a few changes. Safe journey, Gas. As Wigan are promoted today. Blackburn will be surely next, if Rotherham go up via play offs it'll be first time I can remember all three going up immediately from relegation. The gulf between Championship and League One gets bigger, hence next season gets more competitive....another dc quote. Looking over our shoulder, the team that beat us to automatic promotion from the Conference are about to go back there. There's only so many time Mad Dog Allen can work his magic, this could be the beginning of the end for Barnet.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 21, 2018 17:05:23 GMT
No, they have agent Fielding ! In other news, Darrell says we are where we deserve to be, the table doesn't lie. There will be moves in the summer. Support to the strikers poor. James Clarke gave away silly goal. We want to progress to be challenging in play offs and there might be a few changes. Safe journey, Gas. As Wigan are promoted today. Blackburn will be surely next, if Rotherham go up via play offs it'll be first time I can remember all three going up immediately from relegation. The gulf between Championship and League One gets bigger, hence next season gets more competitive....another dc quote. Looking over our shoulder, the team that beat us to automatic promotion from the Conference are about to go back there. There's only so many time Mad Dog Allen can work his magic, this could be the beginning of the end for Barnet. That's a more interesting post, Bambi, than many might think. Barnet away to Morecambe next. Then last match home to Chesterfield (already relegated). How weird is that? Both clubs bisected by Barnet, and they'll surely have to win both to stand any chance. I'm not dwelling on it, but: Barnet. Northampton. Oxford. Wimbledon. All teams promoted with us in our previous two promotions.......look how far we've come compared to them? On and off the pitch? We move on together. Behind the scenes, more professional. On the pitch, more established. We look more stable than anytime this century.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2018 17:30:04 GMT
Looking over our shoulder, the team that beat us to automatic promotion from the Conference are about to go back there. There's only so many time Mad Dog Allen can work his magic, this could be the beginning of the end for Barnet. That's a more interesting post, Bambi, than many might think. Barnet away to Morecambe next. Then last match home to Chesterfield (already relegated). How weird is that? Both clubs bisected by Barnet, and they'll surely have to win both to stand any chance. I'm not dwelling on it, but: Barnet. Northampton. Oxford. Wimbledon. All teams promoted with us in our previous two promotions.......look how far we've come compared to them? On and off the pitch? We move on together. Behind the scenes, more professional. On this pitch, more established. We look more stable than anytime this century. We look to be stable on the pitch, but are making huge losses. Is that stable? Not in my book it's not. Wael arrived talking about a club that was self sufficient. We look a long way short of that right now. I'm still glad we aren't Barnet. But they probably wouldn't be where they are if they had our support base. Edit. Torquay relegated again today. Does make you wonder what could have happened if our 5 guys hadn't have stayed calm and Pittman hadn't have blazed his shot over.
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Apr 21, 2018 17:58:15 GMT
Very honest post match interview from DC.Lamented that players prefer to sign for clubs with 'Facilities like these' meaning Rotherham.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 21, 2018 18:30:52 GMT
That's a more interesting post, Bambi, than many might think. Barnet away to Morecambe next. Then last match home to Chesterfield (already relegated). How weird is that? Both clubs bisected by Barnet, and they'll surely have to win both to stand any chance. I'm not dwelling on it, but: Barnet. Northampton. Oxford. Wimbledon. All teams promoted with us in our previous two promotions.......look how far we've come compared to them? On and off the pitch? We move on together. Behind the scenes, more professional. On this pitch, more established. We look more stable than anytime this century. We look to be stable on the pitch, but are making huge losses. Is that stable? Not in my book it's not. Wael arrived talking about a club that was self sufficient. We look a long way short of that right now. I'm still glad we aren't Barnet. But they probably wouldn't be where they are if they had our support base. Edit. Torquay relegated again today. Does make you wonder what could have happened if our 5 guys hadn't have stayed calm and Pittman hadn't have blazed his shot over. I wouldn't swap with Barnet, Northampton, Oxford or Wimbledon. Yes, we've spent. Yes, we've hired more behind the scenes. Yes, we've got more personnel. I think that's justified to keep tabs up with what's required to send us up to next level. Quick whistle stop history (that you don't need, Bambi): Eastville 70/80s not owning ground, huge losses. Twerton 80/90s not owning ground, huge losses, great league position. Mem 90/00s not owning to owning. Losses. Probably huge. MEM 00/ 10s owning own ground. New owners. Fall (with relegation then UWE collapse), then on field rise. New owners. Financial Director. Commercial Director. due new placed CEO. Analysts and therapists. Boxes sold out. Restaurant / hospitality sold out. Season ticket renewal at highest. Average attendance at highest. Communication with presidential encumbrance. Chairman.....well ok, not all good! All done with huge losses. When were we ever operating without huge losses in living memory?
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Post by Angas on Apr 21, 2018 20:41:58 GMT
Ha. I just took a little trip over to otib. Seems they don't think they've made much progress under their current owner despite the multi millions he's poured into them. Funny old world.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 21, 2018 20:52:29 GMT
Ha. I just took a little trip over to otib. Seems they don't think they've made much progress under their current owner despite the multi millions he's poured into them. Funny old world. Thanks, AG, you are kinda accentuating my point. The millions poured into the franchise, compared to where they stand doesn't equate. It's a loss making establishment that is subsided by rich daddy. We have never had that. We're a little more self sufficient. We are cutting out bad stadium wood. My question (as he brought it up) to Bambi still stands.... When were we ever operating without huge losses in living memory?
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Post by crater on Apr 21, 2018 20:59:21 GMT
Ha. I just took a little trip over to otib. Seems they don't think they've made much progress under their current owner despite the multi millions he's poured into them. Funny old world. [br Hope you were wearing a hazmat suit
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Post by Angas on Apr 21, 2018 21:36:54 GMT
Ha. I just took a little trip over to otib. Seems they don't think they've made much progress under their current owner despite the multi millions he's poured into them. Funny old world. Thanks, AG, you are kinda accentuating my point. Ah good. That's what I was attempting to do
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Post by Angas on Apr 21, 2018 21:40:27 GMT
Ha. I just took a little trip over to otib. Seems they don't think they've made much progress under their current owner despite the multi millions he's poured into them. Funny old world. [br Hope you were wearing a hazmat suit I didn't stay long enough to catch anything nasty. Though I did have time to notice they've got a thread where they go to try to make themselves feel better about things. Something to do with dustbins. Hundreds of pages long, so it doesn't look as if that therapy is working too well for them. Shame.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2018 23:28:56 GMT
[br Hope you were wearing a hazmat suit I didn't stay long enough to catch anything nasty. Though I did have time to notice they've got a thread where they go to try to make themselves feel better about things. Something to do with dustbins. Hundreds of pages long, so it doesn't look as if that therapy is working too well for them. Shame. Just the 695 pages of self satisfied garbage, and counting.
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Post by DudeLebowski on Apr 22, 2018 0:28:31 GMT
Some old boy collared me walking out the ground, to commend our “fantastic support”.
Dude ain’t wrong, 610 Gasheads travelling over 350 miles for a dead rubber game right at the end of the season.
Nothing out of the ordinary of course, superb numbers as per!
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Post by eppinggas on Apr 22, 2018 9:12:56 GMT
We look to be stable on the pitch, but are making huge losses. Is that stable? Not in my book it's not. Wael arrived talking about a club that was self sufficient. We look a long way short of that right now. I'm still glad we aren't Barnet. But they probably wouldn't be where they are if they had our support base. Edit. Torquay relegated again today. Does make you wonder what could have happened if our 5 guys hadn't have stayed calm and Pittman hadn't have blazed his shot over. I wouldn't swap with Barnet, Northampton, Oxford or Wimbledon. Yes, we've spent. Yes, we've hired more behind the scenes. Yes, we've got more personnel. I think that's justified to keep tabs up with what's required to send us up to next level. Quick whistle stop history (that you don't need, Bambi): Eastville 70/80s not owning ground, huge losses. Twerton 80/90s not owning ground, huge losses, great league position. Mem 90/00s not owning to owning. Losses. Probably huge. MEM 00/ 10s owning own ground. New owners. Fall (with relegation then UWE collapse), then on field rise. New owners. Financial Director. Commercial Director. due new placed CEO. Analysts and therapists. Boxes sold out. Restaurant / hospitality sold out. Season ticket renewal at highest. Average attendance at highest. Communication with presidential encumbrance. Chairman.....well ok, not all good! All done with huge losses. When were we ever operating without huge losses in living memory? I take all your positive points. I do think there was a period (pre-Higgs) when we were debt-free and running minimal losses. Must have been around the mid-00's. However if the Al-Qadi's are 'happy' to effectively write off running cost annual losses of circa £2mil - then I am 'happy'. My concern is that without any prospect of a Memorial Stadium redevelopment / new Stadium they may run out of patience.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 22, 2018 9:30:08 GMT
I wouldn't swap with Barnet, Northampton, Oxford or Wimbledon. Yes, we've spent. Yes, we've hired more behind the scenes. Yes, we've got more personnel. I think that's justified to keep tabs up with what's required to send us up to next level. Quick whistle stop history (that you don't need, Bambi): Eastville 70/80s not owning ground, huge losses. Twerton 80/90s not owning ground, huge losses, great league position. Mem 90/00s not owning to owning. Losses. Probably huge. MEM 00/ 10s owning own ground. New owners. Fall (with relegation then UWE collapse), then on field rise. New owners. Financial Director. Commercial Director. due new placed CEO. Analysts and therapists. Boxes sold out. Restaurant / hospitality sold out. Season ticket renewal at highest. Average attendance at highest. Communication with presidential encumbrance. Chairman.....well ok, not all good! All done with huge losses. When were we ever operating without huge losses in living memory? I take all your positive points. I do think there was a period (pre-Higgs) when we were debt-free and running minimal losses. Must have been around the mid-00's. However if the Al-Qadi's are 'happy' to effectively write off running cost annual losses of circa £2mil - then I am 'happy'. My concern is that without any prospect of a Memorial Stadium redevelopment / new Stadium they may run out of patience. Absolutely, EG. It's far from perfect scenario, but I'm sure I've made my point. I am in no way itk, but cleverer folk than me can suss it out....a little bit like chess, get all your major pieces in place (ie directors here, ceo there) to go for the money shot.. Otherwise, what's the point? So I would never be surprised to hear of an ongoing project to secure the long term future and home for the club. Or, look at it this way: What sort of disaster would we be in, if uwe was a goer by now under the tenure of Higgs/Twatola/Holtby? OMG!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2018 9:57:17 GMT
I take all your positive points. I do think there was a period (pre-Higgs) when we were debt-free and running minimal losses. Must have been around the mid-00's. However if the Al-Qadi's are 'happy' to effectively write off running cost annual losses of circa £2mil - then I am 'happy'. My concern is that without any prospect of a Memorial Stadium redevelopment / new Stadium they may run out of patience. Absolutely, EG. It's far from perfect scenario, but I'm sure I've made my point. I am in no way itk, but cleverer folk than me can suss it out....a little bit like chess, get all your major pieces in place (ie directors here, ceo there) to go for the money shot.. Otherwise, what's the point? So I would never be surprised to hear of an ongoing project to secure the long term future and home for the club. Or, look at it this way: What sort of disaster would we be in, if uwe was a goer by now under the tenure of Higgs/Twatola/Holtby?OMG! Now that we know the numbers, what we had always suspected, namely that there wasn't ever enough money to build UWE has been confirmed. Where was the rest of the money coming from, anyone know? I did wonder at the time if Higgs was more worried about winning or losing? As for these owners, 8 1/2 months now since we found out that UWE wasn't happening, they obviously had a pretty good idea before then that it wasn't exactly going to plan, where are we exactly? We have a Plan B apparently, but it seems to be a secret, and all options are open. That kind of suggests that there is no plan and we'll still be in the same stadium with maybe a couple of minor adjustments for the foreseeable. From memory, the 'Sheds lost their Judicial review in June, there were strong rumours (everybody knew what was happening, because it's very difficult to plan things on this scale without people knowing) and they formally announced that the £45m of his own money that Lansdown was going to put into Plan A was made available to revamp The Pit. I make that 8 months, that's how long it takes. Wael, hello, Wael, are you there?
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Post by Angas on Apr 22, 2018 11:15:26 GMT
The Post said the other week that SL has 'invested' £118m into that lot up to now. Yes, they've got a lovely big stadium and they're a division above us. But going by what I read over there last night, they're not exactly happy bunnies. It must be painful, having your expectations raised only to have them dashed again ... and again ...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2018 11:25:35 GMT
The Post said the other week that SL has 'invested' £118m into that lot up to now. Yes, they've got a lovely big stadium and they're a division above us. But going by what I read over there last night, they're not exactly happy bunnies. It must be painful, having your expectations raised only to have them dashed again ... and again ... He's put a lot more than that in. You can look at the declared losses on the accounts, add on the £45m for the stadium and it goes way beyond £118m. I looked at that thread last night, in fairness, they aren't all complete idiots, some did mention that they had beaten Utd and Citeh needed late goals in both matches to win, and they've been challenging at the top of a very difficult division, and they have a stadium that's fit for purpose. Meanwhile, in BS7, our owners took full credit for promotion that they inherited, since then they've thrown UWE away and lost millions and unless they actually get the infrastructure started they are about to lose the manager as well.
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Post by eppinggas on Apr 22, 2018 12:43:41 GMT
I take all your positive points. I do think there was a period (pre-Higgs) when we were debt-free and running minimal losses. Must have been around the mid-00's. However if the Al-Qadi's are 'happy' to effectively write off running cost annual losses of circa £2mil - then I am 'happy'. My concern is that without any prospect of a Memorial Stadium redevelopment / new Stadium they may run out of patience. Absolutely, EG. It's far from perfect scenario, but I'm sure I've made my point. I am in no way itk, but cleverer folk than me can suss it out....a little bit like chess, get all your major pieces in place (ie directors here, ceo there) to go for the money shot.. Otherwise, what's the point? So I would never be surprised to hear of an ongoing project to secure the long term future and home for the club. Or, look at it this way: What sort of disaster would we be in, if uwe was a goer by now under the tenure of Higgs/Twatola/Holtby? OMG! Under Higgs regime we were in serious financial trouble. Directors weren't going to write off any more money and we were forced into a Wonga loan. Very worrying times. Like I said - if the Al-Qadi's are willing to write off £2mil a year - fair play to them, and a heartfelt "thank you". They say they are here for the long run. And if they are - great. I would be very interested to see what the Business Plan is though. Some may say "it's none of your business". Some may say as a Gashead for 40 years - I have every right to ask. I can't believe they are going to be happy writing off £2mil a year in perpetuity. So what exactly is the long term strategy? When do they see BRFC breaking even? What average gates will they require to see BRFC break even? Is it actually possible to return a profit without substantial investment at the Memorial Stadium (ie £Xmil spent on partial/total redevelopment)? I don't think these are unreasonable questions. But just having a charming and articulate Wael Al-Qadi repeat ad nauseum that "these things take time" - doesn't really do it for me. I'm not being negative. I'm not having a pop. But I think a little more transparency from our owners around what the strategy is - would gain them more credibility. UTG.
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