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Post by irishrover on Feb 17, 2018 22:53:43 GMT
I find that a bit not needed to be honest. You are a mod and the line is attack the post not the poster yet you go out of your way to deride someone who had not been even involved. We all have our opinions, all that was needed was the directing to padstow but not the rest IMO. Very unlike you mate It's ok jools I get used to it.when I get comments made about me I remember what I was told as a kid Just ignore the words and imagine them sat on the toilet with their trousers round their ankles straining to cure their constipation Oh for goodness sake, I haven't been on for a while so couldn't snuff this out at the time -but it was a throwaway joke not a dig, hence the obviously ridiculous nature of the comment. It clearly wasn't a serious point and I object to the implication from KP that it was playing the man and not the ball as well- there was nothing personal in there, it was just cariacturing an argument that has been expressed in multiple threads this week. I mean Bamber spent about a year across all sorts of threads implying that I cheered violent acts on the football field because I expressed the opinion that I enjoyed watching Stoke play-doesn't mean that I took it as a personal dig just a pisstake based on the argument I was making. This was just based on lighthearted exchanges on the thread from earlier in the week. Clearly I don't actually think that - if I really held that opinion I wouldn't have been giving out that advice to the OP in the first place. It was hardly a nasty comment and the intention of the post (ie.pointing the OP in towards someone who might know what they were talking about on this) surely implied a clear level of respect to someone's expertise in that field. I'll remember that next time someone choses to make a throw away comment about my lengthy posts on a random thread I'm clearly entitled to fly off the handle about it...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 13:08:14 GMT
It's ok jools I get used to it.when I get comments made about me I remember what I was told as a kid Just ignore the words and imagine them sat on the toilet with their trousers round their ankles straining to cure their constipation Oh for goodness sake, I haven't been on for a while so couldn't snuff this out at the time -but it was a throwaway joke not a dig, hence the obviously ridiculous nature of the comment. It clearly wasn't a serious point and I object to the implication from KP that it was playing the man and not the ball as well- there was nothing personal in there, it was just cariacturing an argument that has been expressed in multiple threads this week. I mean Bamber spent about a year across all sorts of threads implying that I cheered violent acts on the football field because I expressed the opinion that I enjoyed watching Stoke play-doesn't mean that I took it as a personal dig just a pisstake based on the argument I was making. This was just based on lighthearted exchanges on the thread from earlier in the week. Clearly I don't actually think that - if I really held that opinion I wouldn't have been giving out that advice to the OP in the first place. It was hardly a nasty comment and the intention of the post (ie.pointing the OP in towards someone who might know what they were talking about on this) surely implied a clear level of respect to someone's expertise in that field. I'll remember that next time someone choses to make a throw away comment about my lengthy posts on a random thread I'm clearly entitled to fly off the handle about it... Doesn't matter anymore after I have sent Joe a message with how to contact me I will be deleting my account so the situation won't occur again
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 18, 2018 15:43:57 GMT
Oh for goodness sake, I haven't been on for a while so couldn't snuff this out at the time -but it was a throwaway joke not a dig, hence the obviously ridiculous nature of the comment. It clearly wasn't a serious point and I object to the implication from KP that it was playing the man and not the ball as well- there was nothing personal in there, it was just cariacturing an argument that has been expressed in multiple threads this week. I mean Bamber spent about a year across all sorts of threads implying that I cheered violent acts on the football field because I expressed the opinion that I enjoyed watching Stoke play-doesn't mean that I took it as a personal dig just a pisstake based on the argument I was making. This was just based on lighthearted exchanges on the thread from earlier in the week. Clearly I don't actually think that - if I really held that opinion I wouldn't have been giving out that advice to the OP in the first place. It was hardly a nasty comment and the intention of the post (ie.pointing the OP in towards someone who might know what they were talking about on this) surely implied a clear level of respect to someone's expertise in that field. I'll remember that next time someone choses to make a throw away comment about my lengthy posts on a random thread I'm clearly entitled to fly off the handle about it... Doesn't matter anymore after I have sent Joe a message with how to contact me I will be deleting my account so the situation won't occur again Damn. Gutted to hear this. I see you deleted with immediacy mate. Would have been good to exchange email addresses as I’ve enjoyed many or the great majority of your posts adieu padstow
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 15:50:19 GMT
Oh for goodness sake, I haven't been on for a while so couldn't snuff this out at the time -but it was a throwaway joke not a dig, hence the obviously ridiculous nature of the comment. It clearly wasn't a serious point and I object to the implication from KP that it was playing the man and not the ball as well- there was nothing personal in there, it was just cariacturing an argument that has been expressed in multiple threads this week. I mean Bamber spent about a year across all sorts of threads implying that I cheered violent acts on the football field because I expressed the opinion that I enjoyed watching Stoke play-doesn't mean that I took it as a personal dig just a pisstake based on the argument I was making. This was just based on lighthearted exchanges on the thread from earlier in the week. Clearly I don't actually think that - if I really held that opinion I wouldn't have been giving out that advice to the OP in the first place. It was hardly a nasty comment and the intention of the post (ie.pointing the OP in towards someone who might know what they were talking about on this) surely implied a clear level of respect to someone's expertise in that field. I'll remember that next time someone choses to make a throw away comment about my lengthy posts on a random thread I'm clearly entitled to fly off the handle about it... Doesn't matter anymore after I have sent Joe a message with how to contact me I will be deleting my account so the situation won't occur again behave, youve made more comebacks than frank sinatra
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 15:51:33 GMT
Doesn't matter anymore after I have sent Joe a message with how to contact me I will be deleting my account so the situation won't occur again Damn. Gutted to hear this. I see you deleted with immediacy mate. Would have been good to exchange email addresses as I’ve enjoyed many or the great majority of your posts adieu padstowhell be back, ****ing drama queen of the highest order, oooooooo oooooooo im a scout , big deal
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 18, 2018 16:11:33 GMT
Damn. Gutted to hear this. I see you deleted with immediacy mate. Would have been good to exchange email addresses as I’ve enjoyed many or the great majority of your posts adieu padstowhell be back, ****ing drama queen of the highest order, oooooooo oooooooo im a scout , big deal I got bunged out of the scouts so was boys brigade. I was a 6er too ! Oh the shame
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 16:17:09 GMT
It's ok jools I get used to it.when I get comments made about me I remember what I was told as a kid Just ignore the words and imagine them sat on the toilet with their trousers round their ankles straining to cure their constipation Oh for goodness sake, I haven't been on for a while so couldn't snuff this out at the time -but it was a throwaway joke not a dig, hence the obviously ridiculous nature of the comment. It clearly wasn't a serious point and I object to the implication from KP that it was playing the man and not the ball as well- there was nothing personal in there, it was just cariacturing an argument that has been expressed in multiple threads this week. I mean Bamber spent about a year across all sorts of threads implying that I cheered violent acts on the football field because I expressed the opinion that I enjoyed watching Stoke play-doesn't mean that I took it as a personal dig just a pisstake based on the argument I was making. This was just based on lighthearted exchanges on the thread from earlier in the week. Clearly I don't actually think that - if I really held that opinion I wouldn't have been giving out that advice to the OP in the first place. It was hardly a nasty comment and the intention of the post (ie.pointing the OP in towards someone who might know what they were talking about on this) surely implied a clear level of respect to someone's expertise in that field. I'll remember that next time someone choses to make a throw away comment about my lengthy posts on a random thread I'm clearly entitled to fly off the handle about it... I seriously think that anyone who supports anything to do with Stoke City should be ashamed of themselves. They should have either sacked Shawcross or made it clear that he had to change how he played before the Ramsey incident; he had previous. Had Ramsey not played for a club with huge resources it would have been the end of his career. After he tore Ramsey's leg in 2 the club made statements that supported him, since then he's moderated his behaviour. Bit late now. Disgusting club. Equally disgusting section of supporters, Ramsey still gets booed every time he plays there. They chant at him, 'Aaron Ramsey he walks with a limp' and several others that won't get past the filters on here. His crime, as a 19 year old with his leg smashed he didn't reply to a letter seeking forgiveness. Was he obliged to? Sorry, but it says a lot about someone that they find anything positive to say about that club.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 17:29:25 GMT
hell be back, ****ing drama queen of the highest order, oooooooo oooooooo im a scout , big deal I got bunged out of the scouts so was boys brigade. I was a 6er too ! Oh the shame 39th eden grove, we had a great football/cricket team, we hammered everyone got to a final and the other mob played a rovers ringer, lost 6-2 after doing them in the league 6-0 13-2
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Post by Rex on Feb 18, 2018 17:44:46 GMT
Oh for goodness sake, I haven't been on for a while so couldn't snuff this out at the time -but it was a throwaway joke not a dig, hence the obviously ridiculous nature of the comment. It clearly wasn't a serious point and I object to the implication from KP that it was playing the man and not the ball as well- there was nothing personal in there, it was just cariacturing an argument that has been expressed in multiple threads this week. I mean Bamber spent about a year across all sorts of threads implying that I cheered violent acts on the football field because I expressed the opinion that I enjoyed watching Stoke play-doesn't mean that I took it as a personal dig just a pisstake based on the argument I was making. This was just based on lighthearted exchanges on the thread from earlier in the week. Clearly I don't actually think that - if I really held that opinion I wouldn't have been giving out that advice to the OP in the first place. It was hardly a nasty comment and the intention of the post (ie.pointing the OP in towards someone who might know what they were talking about on this) surely implied a clear level of respect to someone's expertise in that field. I'll remember that next time someone choses to make a throw away comment about my lengthy posts on a random thread I'm clearly entitled to fly off the handle about it... I seriously think that anyone who supports anything to do with Stoke City should be ashamed of themselves. They should have either sacked Shawcross or made it clear that he had to change how he played before the Ramsey incident; he had previous. Had Ramsey not played for a club with huge resources it would have been the end of his career. After he tore Ramsey's leg in 2 the club made statements that supported him, since then he's moderated his behaviour. Bit late now. Disgusting club. Equally disgusting section of supporters, Ramsey still gets booed every time he plays there. They chant at him, 'Aaron Ramsey he walks with a limp' and several others that won't get past the filters on here. His crime, as a 19 year old with his leg smashed he didn't reply to a letter seeking forgiveness. Was he obliged to? Sorry, but it says a lot about someone that they find anything positive to say about that club. There are a couple of teams I really don't like but as for any club in it's entirety being 'disgusting' I think that's just nonsense. Gordon Banks was my hero as a kid so I always had a soft spot for Stoke. Add that to the fact I also enjoy horse racing and I imagine you will be crossing me off your Xmas card list
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 19:31:25 GMT
I seriously think that anyone who supports anything to do with Stoke City should be ashamed of themselves. They should have either sacked Shawcross or made it clear that he had to change how he played before the Ramsey incident; he had previous. Had Ramsey not played for a club with huge resources it would have been the end of his career. After he tore Ramsey's leg in 2 the club made statements that supported him, since then he's moderated his behaviour. Bit late now. Disgusting club. Equally disgusting section of supporters, Ramsey still gets booed every time he plays there. They chant at him, 'Aaron Ramsey he walks with a limp' and several others that won't get past the filters on here. His crime, as a 19 year old with his leg smashed he didn't reply to a letter seeking forgiveness. Was he obliged to? Sorry, but it says a lot about someone that they find anything positive to say about that club. There are a couple of teams I really don't like but as for any club in it's entirety being 'disgusting' I think that's just nonsense. Gordon Banks was my hero as a kid so I always had a soft spot for Stoke. Add that to the fact I also enjoy horse racing and I imagine you will be crossing me off your Xmas card list I laughed so much I almost wet myself when that rabble from Edmiston Drive went bust. Can we exchange cards to celebrate Mid-Winter Festival now?
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Post by Rex on Feb 18, 2018 19:41:33 GMT
There are a couple of teams I really don't like but as for any club in it's entirety being 'disgusting' I think that's just nonsense. Gordon Banks was my hero as a kid so I always had a soft spot for Stoke. Add that to the fact I also enjoy horse racing and I imagine you will be crossing me off your Xmas card list I laughed so much I almost wet myself when that rabble from Edmiston Drive went bust. Can we exchange cards to celebrate Mid-Winter Festival now? You always were my favourite poster
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Post by dido on Feb 18, 2018 20:02:02 GMT
Me too Rex. I had Bamber on my list of "those who always talk sense". Initially.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 20:28:26 GMT
Not sure what was funny about Glasgow Rangers going bust. Putting aside trendy digs about sectarianism (because obviously, there's none at Parkhead),the club is a huge part of Modern Scottish and British history and is very important to hundreds of thousands of people.
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Post by Rex on Feb 18, 2018 20:34:00 GMT
Not sure what was funny about Glasgow Rangers going bust. Putting aside trendy digs about sectarianism (because obviously, there's none at Parkhead),the club is a huge part of Modern Scottish and British history and is very important to hundreds of thousands of people. Behave yerself! It isn't like they actually went away, we just got to see them struggling against the likes of Peterhead for a bit
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 20:42:07 GMT
Not sure what was funny about Glasgow Rangers going bust. Putting aside trendy digs about sectarianism (because obviously, there's none at Parkhead),the club is a huge part of Modern Scottish and British history and is very important to hundreds of thousands of people. Behave yerself! It isn't like they actually went away, we just got to see them struggling against the likes of Peterhead for a bit What if it was Celtic? Fair play to you mate, you're (almost) level headed. It's the ridiculous hatred some have for Rangers that irks me. Having grandparents that were from both "sides' of the religious and football divide of Glasgow, it's naturally ingrained in me to get annoyed by pathetic bigotry. Anyway, Third Lanark are going great guns this season 👍
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Post by Rex on Feb 18, 2018 20:49:36 GMT
Behave yerself! It isn't like they actually went away, we just got to see them struggling against the likes of Peterhead for a bit What if it was Celtic?Fair play to you mate, you're (almost) level headed. It's the ridiculous hatred some have for Rangers that irks me. Having grandparents that were from both "sides' of the religious and football divide of Glasgow, it's naturally ingrained in me to get annoyed by pathetic bigotry. Anyway, Third Lanark are going great guns this season 👍 Then I would have enjoyed the new trips just like I did when Rovers were in the Conference. My own support for Celtic aside, let's not forget that Rangers really did break every rule going in their pursuit of domination, they had it coming.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 21:05:41 GMT
What if it was Celtic?Fair play to you mate, you're (almost) level headed. It's the ridiculous hatred some have for Rangers that irks me. Having grandparents that were from both "sides' of the religious and football divide of Glasgow, it's naturally ingrained in me to get annoyed by pathetic bigotry. Anyway, Third Lanark are going great guns this season 👍 Then I would have enjoyed the new trips just like I did when Rovers were in the Conference. My own support for Celtic aside, let's not forget that Rangers really did break every rule going in their pursuit of domination, they had it coming. The letters of sympathy would have come flooding in from Rangers' supporters if the positions were reversed. Anyway, it didn't help Celtic or Scottish football. But, nothing to do with sectarianism or any of that nonsense, which I agree, is pathetic (and very dangerous) just because it was a rival team, it was funny.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 21:16:23 GMT
Then I would have enjoyed the new trips just like I did when Rovers were in the Conference. My own support for Celtic aside, let's not forget that Rangers really did break every rule going in their pursuit of domination, they had it coming. The letters of sympathy would have come flooding in from Rangers' supporters if the positions were reversed. Anyway, it didn't help Celtic or Scottish football. But, nothing to do with sectarianism or any of that nonsense, which I agree, is pathetic (and very dangerous) just because it was a rival team, it was funny. My apologies, but how long have Rangers been a rival to Rovers?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 22:03:02 GMT
The letters of sympathy would have come flooding in from Rangers' supporters if the positions were reversed. Anyway, it didn't help Celtic or Scottish football. But, nothing to do with sectarianism or any of that nonsense, which I agree, is pathetic (and very dangerous) just because it was a rival team, it was funny. My apologies, but how long have Rangers been a rival to Rovers? Oh, I didn't understand the rules, I thought we were allowed to take an interest in more than 1 team.
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Post by Gregory Stevens on Feb 21, 2018 12:43:58 GMT
I don't profess to be an expert - I'll leave that with DC. To answer your question, if I must, then the basic requirement of a team remains to get the ball in the net more times than the opposition. However, the art in getting the ball in the net has changed by some distance since my introduction to the game in the 70s. From a standard 4-4-2 to the revolutionary wing-backs favoured by Mr Holloway (who when found out didn't have a plan B) to diamonds, Christmas trees, up to DC with up to 4 different formations (plans/projects) during a game. The game is quicker, the balls are lighter, the players are more physically stronger, the pitches better (well perhaps not The Mem! ). Add to the mix: diets; nutrition; medical padvances, monitoring and knowledge; training facilities have improved; coaching methods have changed; there have been rule changes that have benefitted some and hindered others; video analysis and data (the 'Moneyball' effect, like it or not) ... off the top of my head. The one thing you are missing in your comments is skill.that hasn't changed over the years.do you think that there are defenders better than Bobby Moore. Forwards better than Charlton and best.keepers better than banks.strikers better than greaves or Lineker Or defensive midfielders like stiles or Edwards. How many of the current England side would replace the world cup winners. Sorry but your youthful comments that the game is different today doesn't stack up.the only differences are cheats are tolerated and mediocre players are sold for stupid money and get paid far more than their ability warrants Well, I have a knowledge that only stretches back to around 1989 and I can wholeheartedly say yes, footballers are demonstrably much better now. The current squad would murder the 1990 team. Hands down. I’ve watched the 66 final many times and the players aren’t anywhere near as skillfull as even championship players are today. Martin Peters seems to just run forward and shoot. There are no deft touches, think of Berbatov, a mediocre player from about 10 years ago, and find me players in the 60s who equal that kind of player. George best is about as good as it gets, and I’ve watched him extensively on tribute videos, and messi, Ronaldinho, Bale, et al would eat him alive. He wasn’t playing against decent players, he was playing against half overweight unorganised defences. They were the best in their time, but like many other sports, snooker is a good example, look how many 147s now versus the 80s. The game has got better. It just has. I loved the 90s team and the Holloway team yada yada but although those players shined in THEIR ERA, their product was not as good as players of today. Watch old games and new, and you will see. They aren’t as good. There’s a vid of rovers villa I think with Graydon playing for villa and tell me our current squad wouldn’t piss all over them. More skill, individually, as well as better fitness and tactics. I think you’re suffering from “I remember it, you don’t, and MY era, when football was newer to me and made its impression, was the golden one”. I used to think the football at twerton was so much better, but that’s because I was a teenager and those days are rose tinted. Bobby Moore, just because he has a big, intimidating name, is not a shadow of Rio ferdinand in 2006, Carlos Puyoll or Nemanya Vidic. Sorry.
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