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Post by jj on Feb 15, 2018 12:04:11 GMT
Hi all,
I am a student at the University of the West of England and I'm currently writing my dissertation. It's a business plan, which involves football/scouting opportunities. The system would be targeted at League 1 clubs and below in order to better recruit downwards from the lower leagues. I am aware that there is still playoff opportunities for Rovers by the way, and I hope you will be playing Championship football next season!
Part of my project involves getting primary, first-hand information from my target market. Which avenue would be best to go down to speak to someone at the club and gain their opinion/insight? Getting this sort of information would be golden for me.
If anyone could direct me at all to the best person to speak to, I would greatly appreciate it!
Many thanks,
Joe
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2018 12:39:35 GMT
Filton Avenue, no question.
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Post by jj on Feb 15, 2018 12:50:40 GMT
Filton Avenue, no question. What do you mean mate?!
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Post by Angas on Feb 15, 2018 13:31:27 GMT
I think he was being flippant - as in "Which avenue would be best to go down ..." In the event no-one comes up with a specific name for you, there's a general enquiry form here - www.bristolrovers.co.uk/contact-us/
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Post by jj on Feb 15, 2018 13:35:31 GMT
I think he was being flippant - as in "Which avenue would be best to go down ..." In the event no-one comes up with a specific name for you, there's a general enquiry form here - www.bristolrovers.co.uk/contact-us/Oh yeah it's clicked now fair play that was quality nice one mate appreciate the help!!
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Post by eppinggas on Feb 15, 2018 13:37:26 GMT
You asked "which avenue". The Memorial Stadium is indeed situated off of Filton Avenue. Not sure where best for you to start... I would suggest turning up on matchdays in blue & white quarters and getting to know the Club and it's supporters.
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Post by irishrover on Feb 15, 2018 13:59:59 GMT
Well if what you are trying to do is get in contact with scouts then contacting the club directly would definitely be the best bet.
There used to be a few scouts (amateur and professional) who would post on here but I don't think that's the case so much now.
Although you might want to message Padstow, who is a scout and posts on here and would probably be able to point you in the right direction. Although I wouldn't mention doing anything new to him if I were you - Padstow seems to hold the view that nothing has changed in football management or recruiting since the 1920s when Herbert Chapman took the innovative step of basing decisions on actually watching games that real players were playing in rather than relying on reading match reports and visiting fortune tellers on Blackpool promenade.....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2018 20:02:44 GMT
Well if what you are trying to do is get in contact with scouts then contacting the club directly would definitely be the best bet. There used to be a few scouts (amateur and professional) who would post on here but I don't think that's the case so much now. Although you might want to message Padstow, who is a scout and posts on here and would probably be able to point you in the right direction. Although I wouldn't mention doing anything new to him if I were you - Padstow seems to hold the view that nothing has changed in football management or recruiting since the 1920s when Herbert Chapman took the innovative step of basing decisions on actually watching games that real players were playing in rather than relying on reading match reports and visiting fortune tellers on Blackpool promenade..... So in your opinion apart from cheating by conning the officials.playing with beach balls instead of proper leather balls what has changed. If you want to know how opposition play the only way is to watch them several times or in the modern world you livery in a crystal ball
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Post by The Concept on Feb 15, 2018 20:10:02 GMT
When interviewed recently, Steve Yates was asked about his coaching. He said he enjoyed it, but did say that DC would say he was a bit of a dinosaur with his ideas. That to me shows DC and Yatesy both know football and coaching has moved on a distance in a short space of time.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2018 20:20:05 GMT
When interviewed recently, Steve Yates was asked about his coaching. He said he enjoyed it, but did say that DC would say he was a bit of a dinosaur with his ideas. That to me shows DC and Yatesy both know football and coaching has moved on a distance in a short space of time. So tell me what in your opinion are the basic requirements of team and what is the end product expected to be. But as I wasn't talking about coaching I fail to understand your point
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Post by The Concept on Feb 15, 2018 20:50:09 GMT
When interviewed recently, Steve Yates was asked about his coaching. He said he enjoyed it, but did say that DC would say he was a bit of a dinosaur with his ideas. That to me shows DC and Yatesy both know football and coaching has moved on a distance in a short space of time. So tell me what in your opinion are the basic requirements of team and what is the end product expected to be. But as I wasn't talking about coaching I fail to understand your point I don't profess to be an expert - I'll leave that with DC. To answer your question, if I must, then the basic requirement of a team remains to get the ball in the net more times than the opposition. However, the art in getting the ball in the net has changed by some distance since my introduction to the game in the 70s. From a standard 4-4-2 to the revolutionary wing-backs favoured by Mr Holloway (who when found out didn't have a plan B) to diamonds, Christmas trees, up to DC with up to 4 different formations (plans/projects) during a game. The game is quicker, the balls are lighter, the players are more physically stronger, the pitches better (well perhaps not The Mem! ). Add to the mix: diets; nutrition; medical advances, monitoring and knowledge; training facilities have improved; coaching methods have changed; there have been rule changes that have benefitted some and hindered others; video analysis and data (the 'Moneyball' effect, like it or not) ... off the top of my head.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 15, 2018 21:27:43 GMT
Well if what you are trying to do is get in contact with scouts then contacting the club directly would definitely be the best bet. There used to be a few scouts (amateur and professional) who would post on here but I don't think that's the case so much now. Although you might want to message Padstow, who is a scout and posts on here and would probably be able to point you in the right direction. Although I wouldn't mention doing anything new to him if I were you - Padstow seems to hold the view that nothing has changed in football management or recruiting since the 1920s when Herbert Chapman took the innovative step of basing decisions on actually watching games that real players were playing in rather than relying on reading match reports and visiting fortune tellers on Blackpool promenade..... I find that a bit not needed to be honest. You are a mod and the line is attack the post not the poster yet you go out of your way to deride someone who had not been even involved. We all have our opinions, all that was needed was the directing to padstow but not the rest IMO. Very unlike you mate
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2018 8:56:33 GMT
So tell me what in your opinion are the basic requirements of team and what is the end product expected to be. But as I wasn't talking about coaching I fail to understand your point I don't profess to be an expert - I'll leave that with DC. To answer your question, if I must, then the basic requirement of a team remains to get the ball in the net more times than the opposition. However, the art in getting the ball in the net has changed by some distance since my introduction to the game in the 70s. From a standard 4-4-2 to the revolutionary wing-backs favoured by Mr Holloway (who when found out didn't have a plan B) to diamonds, Christmas trees, up to DC with up to 4 different formations (plans/projects) during a game. The game is quicker, the balls are lighter, the players are more physically stronger, the pitches better (well perhaps not The Mem! ). Add to the mix: diets; nutrition; medical padvances, monitoring and knowledge; training facilities have improved; coaching methods have changed; there have been rule changes that have benefitted some and hindered others; video analysis and data (the 'Moneyball' effect, like it or not) ... off the top of my head. The one thing you are missing in your comments is skill.that hasn't changed over the years.do you think that there are defenders better than Bobby Moore. Forwards better than Charlton and best.keepers better than banks.strikers better than greaves or Lineker Or defensive midfielders like stiles or Edwards. How many of the current England side would replace the world cup winners. Sorry but your youthful comments that the game is different today doesn't stack up.the only differences are cheats are tolerated and mediocre players are sold for stupid money and get paid far more than their ability warrants
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2018 8:59:13 GMT
Well if what you are trying to do is get in contact with scouts then contacting the club directly would definitely be the best bet. There used to be a few scouts (amateur and professional) who would post on here but I don't think that's the case so much now. Although you might want to message Padstow, who is a scout and posts on here and would probably be able to point you in the right direction. Although I wouldn't mention doing anything new to him if I were you - Padstow seems to hold the view that nothing has changed in football management or recruiting since the 1920s when Herbert Chapman took the innovative step of basing decisions on actually watching games that real players were playing in rather than relying on reading match reports and visiting fortune tellers on Blackpool promenade..... I find that a bit not needed to be honest. You are a mod and the line is attack the post not the poster yet you go out of your way to deride someone who had not been even involved. We all have our opinions, all that was needed was the directing to padstow but not the rest IMO. Very unlike you mate It's ok jools I get used to it.when I get comments made about me I remember what I was told as a kid Just ignore the words and imagine them sat on the toilet with their trousers round their ankles straining to cure their constipation
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Post by eppinggas on Feb 16, 2018 9:46:37 GMT
Without wishing to turn this into a Padstow Thread... Definitely worth a PM to him. And I'm with KP - I thought the dig at him was unwarranted and a surprise coming from one of the Mods.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2018 10:00:20 GMT
Without wishing to turn this into a Padstow Thread... Definitely worth a PM to him. And I'm with KP - I thought the dig at him was unwarranted and a surprise coming from one of the Mods. I have had contact from Joe and pointed him towards someone who can help him.he is also welcome to contact me any time and will help him where I can about the parameters that scounts work within
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Post by jj on Feb 16, 2018 12:54:32 GMT
Much appreciated everyone!
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 16, 2018 18:18:29 GMT
I find that a bit not needed to be honest. You are a mod and the line is attack the post not the poster yet you go out of your way to deride someone who had not been even involved. We all have our opinions, all that was needed was the directing to padstow but not the rest IMO. Very unlike you mate It's ok jools I get used to it.when I get comments made about me I remember what I was told as a kid Just ignore the words and imagine them sat on the toilet with their trousers round their ankles straining to cure their constipation padstow. I just thought it poor form from a moderator is all. As you well know I’ve made many a personal comment when I first joined on here but this place certainly tempered my ire and has made me think a little prior to pressing the post button. For example, when I had that poster join this forum, around last week and just to post an attack aimed directly at me, in the past I’d have written a ton and given the dear thing some very harsh words but I now find that I am better off not replying in kind and letting things go. Life really is too short and I still like to think that us gasheads would have one another’s backs, maybe I’m being stupid in that though, who knows ? Dad used to say he would not ask anything of others that he would not do himself and so I would hope the mods would set an example. It’s water under the bridge now and I hope we don’t see much more of it. I really can’t believe it’s Friday again already. Life really does go by so quickly and it’s easy to forget that. Blimey, I was 18 only three weeks ago, I’m sure of it 😇
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Post by The Concept on Feb 16, 2018 20:08:28 GMT
I don't profess to be an expert - I'll leave that with DC. To answer your question, if I must, then the basic requirement of a team remains to get the ball in the net more times than the opposition. However, the art in getting the ball in the net has changed by some distance since my introduction to the game in the 70s. From a standard 4-4-2 to the revolutionary wing-backs favoured by Mr Holloway (who when found out didn't have a plan B) to diamonds, Christmas trees, up to DC with up to 4 different formations (plans/projects) during a game. The game is quicker, the balls are lighter, the players are more physically stronger, the pitches better (well perhaps not The Mem! ). Add to the mix: diets; nutrition; medical padvances, monitoring and knowledge; training facilities have improved; coaching methods have changed; there have been rule changes that have benefitted some and hindered others; video analysis and data (the 'Moneyball' effect, like it or not) ... off the top of my head. The one thing you are missing in your comments is skill.that hasn't changed over the years.do you think that there are defenders better than Bobby Moore. Forwards better than Charlton and best.keepers better than banks.strikers better than greaves or Lineker Or defensive midfielders like stiles or Edwards. How many of the current England side would replace the world cup winners. Sorry but your youthful comments that the game is different today doesn't stack up.the only differences are cheats are tolerated and mediocre players are sold for stupid money and get paid far more than their ability warrants Let's back-track here a bit... Someone else posted about the view that football management and recruiting hadn't changed since the 1920s. It reminded me of a recent interview with Steve Yates, a part of which was pertinent to the discussion, and I thought I'd share. Since then you've been demanding questions of me. Perhaps you were wound up by the other poster bringing your name up (which wasn't nice practice) - if so I'd be grateful if you'd take your arguments up with them instead, thank you.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2018 20:12:30 GMT
The one thing you are missing in your comments is skill.that hasn't changed over the years.do you think that there are defenders better than Bobby Moore. Forwards better than Charlton and best.keepers better than banks.strikers better than greaves or Lineker Or defensive midfielders like stiles or Edwards. How many of the current England side would replace the world cup winners. Sorry but your youthful comments that the game is different today doesn't stack up.the only differences are cheats are tolerated and mediocre players are sold for stupid money and get paid far more than their ability warrants Let's back-track here a bit... Someone else posted about the view that football management and recruiting hadn't changed since the 1920s. It reminded me of a recent interview with Steve Yates, a part of which was pertinent to the discussion, and I thought I'd share. Since then you've been demanding questions of me. Perhaps you were wound up by the other poster bringing your name up (which wasn't nice practice) - if so I'd be grateful if you'd take your arguments up with them instead, thank you. Fair enough just get a bit fed up with snide comments from certain people because of what I do albeit for little or no payment.whether it is jealousy or what I don't know
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