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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 2:35:37 GMT
How bleak would things be without dwayne sports? No new signings No top players signing improved contracts. No development squad No darrell clarke No chris hargreaves No league 1 football no exciting training ground development No new toilets and club shop No rovers mad co-owner No safe protection from insolvency No real hope of a prosperous future No chance of a redeveloped mem near the fantastic gloucester road Luckily we have got dwayne sports and the future is brighter than its ever been for bristol rovers.
Ps obviously we need to pay for the fence as well.
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Post by gasgomarchingin on Feb 2, 2018 6:50:28 GMT
How bleak would things be without dwayne sports? No new signings No top players signing improved contracts. No development squad No darrell clarke No chris hargreaves No league 1 football no exciting training ground development No new toilets and club shop No rovers mad co-owner No safe protection from insolvency No real hope of a prosperous future No chance of a redeveloped mem near the fantastic gloucester road Luckily we have got dwayne sports and the future is brighter than its ever been for bristol rovers. Ps obviously we need to pay for the fence as well. I have an issue with this thread. A lot of those things you are guessing at. How do you know we wouldn't be in league 1? How do you know we wouldn't make new signings? How do you know we wouldn't offer players new contracts? I'm not criticising Dwayne Sports but I am skeptical about them. DC is our real hero. Where is your username from? Aren't blueiris a coach company in Nailsea?
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Post by eppinggas on Feb 2, 2018 9:57:08 GMT
How bleak would things be without dwayne sports? No new signings No top players signing improved contracts. No development squad No darrell clarke No chris hargreaves No league 1 football no exciting training ground development No new toilets and club shop No rovers mad co-owner No safe protection from insolvency No real hope of a prosperous future No chance of a redeveloped mem near the fantastic gloucester road Luckily we have got dwayne sports and the future is brighter than its ever been for bristol rovers. Ps obviously we need to pay for the fence as well. It's "Dwane Sports". Nov 19th 2018 blueiris: "Its difficult to feel optimistic about the situation with the owners right now". Read more: gasheads.org/user/2065/recent#ixzz55wXOPZBQSerious question - Why the change of heart?
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Post by c4h10 on Feb 2, 2018 10:28:48 GMT
How bleak would things be without dwayne sports? No new signings No top players signing improved contracts. No development squad No darrell clarke No chris hargreaves No league 1 football no exciting training ground development No new toilets and club shop No rovers mad co-owner No safe protection from insolvency No real hope of a prosperous future No chance of a redeveloped mem near the fantastic gloucester road Luckily we have got dwayne sports and the future is brighter than its ever been for bristol rovers. Ps obviously we need to pay for the fence as well. Sycophantic tosh, inspired by two free (but useful) signings. Unless, of course, the above was written tongue in cheek - in which case I have been caught!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 11:04:58 GMT
It is a very twee appraisal of our owners.
If we had held out a bit longer we might have had a guy like matey at Wolves take over the club, pissing money up the wall to get us into the Premiership. That would make DS's austerity model look exactly like what it sadly is: a slow boat to nowhere.
However, knowing our fanbase if we had an owner like that fans would still be unhappy because ragbag Rovers is a way of life and the appeal of the club is precisely because of the self-flagellation of supporting a perennial underdog playing in a joke of a stadium and struggling to survive in the 3rd or 4th tier.
So maybe we should be thankful for DS because they are exactly the owners that we deserve in many respects?
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Post by Blue Mist on Feb 2, 2018 12:34:34 GMT
It is a very twee appraisal of our owners. If we had held out a bit longer we might have had a guy like matey at Wolves take over the club, pissing money up the wall to get us into the Premiership. That would make DS's austerity model look exactly like what it sadly is: a slow boat to nowhere. However, knowing our fanbase if we had an owner like that fans would still be unhappy because ragbag Rovers is a way of life and the appeal of the club is precisely because of the self-flagellation of supporting a perennial underdog playing in a joke of a stadium and struggling to survive in the 3rd or 4th tier. So maybe we should be thankful for DS because they are exactly the owners that we deserve in many respects? Ha that's a laugh, held out a bit longer and we might not have a club to moan about but this discussions been done to death. We are unanimous in our disappointment at the failed UWE stadium. Maybe Iris is on the happy pills, got laid last night or something but he was just pointing out many of the positives. I think he made some good points. By the response nobody appears that interested in positivity.
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Post by gertrude1883 on Feb 2, 2018 12:34:42 GMT
It is a very twee appraisal of our owners. If we had held out a bit longer we might have had a guy like matey at Wolves take over the club, pissing money up the wall to get us into the Premiership. That would make DS's austerity model look exactly like what it sadly is: a slow boat to nowhere. However, knowing our fanbase if we had an owner like that fans would still be unhappy because ragbag Rovers is a way of life and the appeal of the club is precisely because of the self-flagellation of supporting a perennial underdog playing in a joke of a stadium and struggling to survive in the 3rd or 4th tier. So maybe we should be thankful for DS because they are exactly the owners that we deserve in many respects? Where's the dislike button?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 12:54:35 GMT
This really is a bit rich for someone who constantly jumps on other people's posts and shouts them down saying that they don't know for sure that something is the case.
Anyway, I've been told that the fence has now been paid for. Coincidence, or spies reporting back that it's being talked about and that motivating someone to dig the invoice out and mark it as 'due for payment'? Who knows, who cares, I just like the thought that we pay people for a job as long as it's been done correctly.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 13:17:58 GMT
It is a very twee appraisal of our owners. If we had held out a bit longer we might have had a guy like matey at Wolves take over the club, pissing money up the wall to get us into the Premiership. That would make DS's austerity model look exactly like what it sadly is: a slow boat to nowhere. However, knowing our fanbase if we had an owner like that fans would still be unhappy because ragbag Rovers is a way of life and the appeal of the club is precisely because of the self-flagellation of supporting a perennial underdog playing in a joke of a stadium and struggling to survive in the 3rd or 4th tier. So maybe we should be thankful for DS because they are exactly the owners that we deserve in many respects? Ha that's a laugh, held out a bit longer and we might not have a club to moan about but this discussions been done to death. We are unanimous in our disappointment at the failed UWE stadium. Maybe Iris is on the happy pills, got laid last night or something but he was just pointing out many of the positives. I think he made some good points. By the response nobody appears that interested in positivity. The problem is that those positives are really quite lame- "no new toilets or club shop", seriously?! As a Rovers fan of some years now I for one am tired of how small time we are and continue to be and looking for positives like that just emphasises it. We may have gone bust, we may not, we will never know. According to Wael DS beat 10 other bidders! Some would say Higgs sold him a pup but after hearing an old interview with Wael the other day about how fantastic their due diligence was you would think he would know the veracity of that claim. I for one really struggle that some people can be so happy with the status quo. Just because Higgs ran us into the ground it seems that we have now lost any right to feel that things aren't really good enough following the collapse of the UWE. We should be grateful for DS, interest, charges covering the value of the stadium and no real sign of building works of any note Okay fine, I get it. I will shut up, accept my medicine and resign myself to the fact that Rovers are ragbag and be chuffed to bits about it. Remember when Paul Buckle got slated for telling everyone to lower their expectations? Dwane Sports have given a masterclass in how to get fans to accept mediocrity off the pitch.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 14:16:09 GMT
How bleak would things be without dwayne sports? No new signings No top players signing improved contracts. No development squad No darrell clarke No chris hargreaves No league 1 football no exciting training ground development No new toilets and club shop No rovers mad co-owner No safe protection from insolvency No real hope of a prosperous future No chance of a redeveloped mem near the fantastic gloucester road Luckily we have got dwayne sports and the future is brighter than its ever been for bristol rovers. Ps obviously we need to pay for the fence as well. It's "Dwane Sports". Nov 19th 2018 blueiris: "Its difficult to feel optimistic about the situation with the owners right now". Read more: gasheads.org/user/2065/recent#ixzz55wXOPZBQSerious question - Why the change of heart? I got caught up in the frustration of the uwe collapse and dc not getting the budget he wanted.The owners sent out over optimistic signals without a doubt and its created issues within us fans.But ive got over that now and ive seen so many improvements in the running of the club that its made me realise were very lucky to have dwane sports.The latest example is spending quite a bit of the bodin money in the transfer window.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 14:21:30 GMT
It is a very twee appraisal of our owners. If we had held out a bit longer we might have had a guy like matey at Wolves take over the club, pissing money up the wall to get us into the Premiership. That would make DS's austerity model look exactly like what it sadly is: a slow boat to nowhere. However, knowing our fanbase if we had an owner like that fans would still be unhappy because ragbag Rovers is a way of life and the appeal of the club is precisely because of the self-flagellation of supporting a perennial underdog playing in a joke of a stadium and struggling to survive in the 3rd or 4th tier. So maybe we should be thankful for DS because they are exactly the owners that we deserve in many respects? I suppose thats whats happened to football clubs and supporters. Fans stamping up and down demanding massive spending of money which their clubs havnt got but many rich owners have. You want the wolves owners or steve lansdown or the preston owner or anyone to give us lots of money we havnt got and dont earn.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 14:43:33 GMT
This really is a bit rich for someone who constantly jumps on other people's posts and shouts them down saying that they don't know for sure that something is the case. Anyway, I've been told that the fence has now been paid for. Coincidence, or spies reporting back that it's being talked about and that motivating someone to dig the invoice out and mark it as 'due for payment'? Who knows, who cares, I just like the thought that we pay people for a job as long as it's been done correctly. You might add "The invoice is appropriate"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 14:45:37 GMT
It is a very twee appraisal of our owners. If we had held out a bit longer we might have had a guy like matey at Wolves take over the club, pissing money up the wall to get us into the Premiership. That would make DS's austerity model look exactly like what it sadly is: a slow boat to nowhere. However, knowing our fanbase if we had an owner like that fans would still be unhappy because ragbag Rovers is a way of life and the appeal of the club is precisely because of the self-flagellation of supporting a perennial underdog playing in a joke of a stadium and struggling to survive in the 3rd or 4th tier. So maybe we should be thankful for DS because they are exactly the owners that we deserve in many respects? I suppose thats whats happened to football clubs and supporters. Fans stamping up and down demanding massive spending of money which their clubs havnt got but many rich owners have. You want the wolves owners or steve lansdown or the preston owner or anyone to give us lots of money we havnt got and dont earn. I have some sympathy with your views but you don't help the cause of rational debate by posting up fawning, gross generalisations.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 15:15:11 GMT
This really is a bit rich for someone who constantly jumps on other people's posts and shouts them down saying that they don't know for sure that something is the case. Anyway, I've been told that the fence has now been paid for. Coincidence, or spies reporting back that it's being talked about and that motivating someone to dig the invoice out and mark it as 'due for payment'? Who knows, who cares, I just like the thought that we pay people for a job as long as it's been done correctly. You might add "The invoice is appropriate" Fair enough, but you get what I was driving at, pay what's due.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 15:17:46 GMT
It is a very twee appraisal of our owners. If we had held out a bit longer we might have had a guy like matey at Wolves take over the club, pissing money up the wall to get us into the Premiership. That would make DS's austerity model look exactly like what it sadly is: a slow boat to nowhere. However, knowing our fanbase if we had an owner like that fans would still be unhappy because ragbag Rovers is a way of life and the appeal of the club is precisely because of the self-flagellation of supporting a perennial underdog playing in a joke of a stadium and struggling to survive in the 3rd or 4th tier. So maybe we should be thankful for DS because they are exactly the owners that we deserve in many respects? I suppose thats whats happened to football clubs and supporters. Fans stamping up and down demanding massive spending of money which their clubs havnt got but many rich owners have. You want the wolves owners or steve lansdown or the preston owner or anyone to give us lots of money we havnt got and dont earn. Interesting thread you've started here. As you like people to only post facts and you reference other clubs' finances, maybe you could list for us the clubs outside of the PL who have posted a profit in each of the last 5 years without loans or injections of equity? Then we could understand what it is that we are competing against.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 15:17:47 GMT
You might add "The invoice is appropriate" Fair enough, but you get what I was driving at, pay what's due. That determination MAY have been the issue
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Post by Igitur on Feb 2, 2018 15:27:46 GMT
This is part of the circular argument about what would have happened had the hapless NB continued. I believe we were headed for trouble and thankfully Wael et al Qs stepped in, not to deliver the riches many thought with their millions, but really a continuation of the stagnation but on a safer and more realistic footing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 15:45:35 GMT
I suppose thats whats happened to football clubs and supporters. Fans stamping up and down demanding massive spending of money which their clubs havnt got but many rich owners have. You want the wolves owners or steve lansdown or the preston owner or anyone to give us lots of money we havnt got and dont earn. I have some sympathy with your views but you don't help the cause of rational debate by posting up fawning, gross generalisations. The thread was simply an optimistic view of our club at the present time through my eyes,i thought posters would have understood that but obviously not.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 15:53:38 GMT
I suppose thats whats happened to football clubs and supporters. Fans stamping up and down demanding massive spending of money which their clubs havnt got but many rich owners have. You want the wolves owners or steve lansdown or the preston owner or anyone to give us lots of money we havnt got and dont earn. Interesting thread you've started here. As you like people to only post facts and you reference other clubs' finances, maybe you could list for us the clubs outside of the PL who have posted a profit in each of the last 5 years without loans or injections of equity? Then we could understand what it is that we are competing against. I think you have taken my thread too literally,its my optimistic view of our club right now with some facts and some possible facts. Not many clubs is the answer clearly,newcastle in the championship last season,norwich and wallsall are i believe breaking even or better. If you look on the insider media website on championship clubs finances it shows clearly what were up against. In fact you could make a good argument that you cant get anywhere in football without losing millions of pounds. I would suggest there is something badly wrong with the FFP system not to mention league ones version of it.
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Post by warehamgas on Feb 2, 2018 16:50:15 GMT
Signings I know about, results on the field I see, contract extensions I know, DC/CH are top notch, development squad is coming on nicely I know, you missed out improved support staff which I also know.
Everything else is just a wish-list albeit one that Wael has mentioned. I am positive and try to remain so but for the new ground, the training facility and improving the physical infrastructure I am hopeful rather than expectant. I hope it will happen but this is Rovers so not expecting it to. All Wael needed to do was come out with some kind of Plan B after the UWE went the way of so many other ground schemes. We’ve waited 6 months and the silence is deafening. I don’t think some kind of statement, vision, plans for the future was too much to ask for so in that respect I will be suspicious until we get some ideas of what the plans are, if there are any. There’s nothing I can do about it so I just support DC and the team and that has been very great. But until something happens with a new ground it will always be a huge elephant in the room, and there’s no getting away from that imo if we are going to progress, and that’s stuff for any owners to do something about. So like you blueiris I’m hopeful and positive but am not going to post too much about how wonderful they are. Blimey, supporting Rovers has never been easy but in today’s football world where there’s money swilling about at the top end it has just got harder financially for any lower league team and especially any team like us with a ***t stadium. UTG!
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