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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2018 13:37:01 GMT
Loan signings may be easy to do but leaving a plan b to the last day makes even loan signings difficult. Sorry but for me transfers is an area where DC lacks experience and has not shown IMO so far that he has either the charisma or the ability to sign top players. Possibly he is not helped by the owners but how do we know. This is the reason I am confident that DC will still be here next season because I cannot see any club better than us taking a chance on him, because that is what it will be with no experience above League 1 level. This for me is a good thing because I very much hope that with more experience in the transfer market he will get his first Championship experience with us. My understand is that the days of a manager popping round to a player's house, sitting in the front room with a cup of tea and trying to convince the parents that he'll take good care of little Mesut are long gone, better organised and all PL clubs now use teams of specialist negotiators to get deals sorted, the players use their own agents and negotiators, the only involvement the manager has is to be asked if he wants the player. Of course, the player wanting the work with the manager would be one consideration, but his persuasive and negotiating abilities probably aren't hugely important any more at the top end of the game. That's my understanding anyway.
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Post by stevek192 on Jan 31, 2018 14:08:48 GMT
When I say the charisma I mean the Manager who has experience and a good reputation built at a higher level who has players who will sign for HIM rather than just the club. By top players I mean players who are higher standard than what we have and the sort of player we would need to take us the next step.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2018 14:10:19 GMT
It looks like our only signing might be Tony Craig, a player we don't actually need. DC said he wanted 4 permanent signings, and if he didn't get them he would get loans in. He even bragged about how many loans he has been offered. So it will be interesting to see if DC sticks to his word, or if like the summer, he's still struggling to add up properly. I fear today may be another sad day in the history of BRFC, and highlight the desperate need for a DOF. I don't think even he is coming.turned down by man City for a youngster.turned down by Yeovil. All going well isn't it. Let's hope one of the players out ofor contract in June don't go
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Post by harrybuckle on Jan 31, 2018 14:24:12 GMT
When I say the charisma I mean the Manager who has experience and a good reputation built at a higher level who has players who will sign for HIM rather than just the club. By top players I mean players who are higher standard than what we have and the sort of player we would need to take us the next step. How the hell does Darren Way at Yeovil manage to get in signings it seems so quickly and has always done... albeit most of them are loans.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2018 14:33:24 GMT
When I say the charisma I mean the Manager who has experience and a good reputation built at a higher level who has players who will sign for HIM rather than just the club. By top players I mean players who are higher standard than what we have and the sort of player we would need to take us the next step. How the hell does Darren Way at Yeovil manage to get in signings it seems so quickly and has always done... albeit most of them are loans. Very good question
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2018 14:36:36 GMT
Depends on the reasons we are struggling to sign players really. We don't know if it is money, the infrastructure, our location etc. If players are refusing to come here because of our jurassic stadium and training situation then a DOF will be a waste of time. That will be for the owners to sort out. DC himself certainly speaks to the media as if the hierarchy at BRFC is making him do his job with an arm tied behind his back. I understand getting permanent signings in during January is difficult, which is why i don't understand why DC cannot go to his plan B which is loan signings, something he has said is easy to do. I'm not fussed whether the signings are permanent or loans, but the fact remains the squad has lacked a proper defensive midfielder and a wide player since the start of the season. If we sign yet another left footed centre back, plus a young raw Bernard Mensah as Bodins replacement, then this window would have not only been bizarre but totally unacceptable. DC is real rough diamond, and a manager i have no doubt will go onto manage in the championship in the next 3 years, but his lack of being able to get deals over the line together with his ultra tough approach to wages is the reason why signing proven league 1 players is almost impossible. Who knows the reasons why? Perhaps, somewhere in the middle east, there is a bin containing an unread business case for 4 signings?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2018 14:40:33 GMT
When I say the charisma I mean the Manager who has experience and a good reputation built at a higher level who has players who will sign for HIM rather than just the club. By top players I mean players who are higher standard than what we have and the sort of player we would need to take us the next step. How many of those managers are there around? Discount the usual suspects who are high profile but fail continually and somehow keep getting employed again, what are you left with? Jose, you may be able to make an argument for Wenger, Pep, Pochettino, maybe Zidane, Klopp but now we are struggling, ummmm, maybe Howe if you want to get yourself in the shop window, maybe that bloke at Wolves but this is his first season so a bit early, Cookie Monster at Burnley may make you a better player but charisma, not really, I'm struggling here.
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Post by DudeLebowski on Jan 31, 2018 14:44:04 GMT
Wouldn't bat an eyelid if we made 0 signings today.
Heading in the right direction with momentum in full swing, the squad buzzing on confidence, new signing still to make his full debut. Rather save the money than throw it away on signings for the sake of it. God damn Sky Sports culture.
Sure a bit of experience could be added to be backline, but it would be no disaster if no one is brought in. No matter what the doom merchants have you believe.
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Post by dido on Jan 31, 2018 14:47:44 GMT
"When I say the charisma I mean the Manager who has experience and a good reputation built at a higher level who has players who will sign for HIM rather than just the club"
C'mon Bamber, have I got to give you an example? -------------- Mark McGee.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2018 14:49:26 GMT
When I say the charisma I mean the Manager who has experience and a good reputation built at a higher level who has players who will sign for HIM rather than just the club. By top players I mean players who are higher standard than what we have and the sort of player we would need to take us the next step. How the hell does Darren Way at Yeovil manage to get in signings it seems so quickly and has always done... albeit most of them are loans. Darren 19th in League 2 Way? Hardly someone to look to emulate.
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Post by trunky on Jan 31, 2018 14:52:33 GMT
Why are so many of you prepared to accept mid table, I think a fair proportion of our fans have been brainwashed into accepting mediocrity, we have got at least a championship quality fanbase and manager and with a little bit of ambition we can still make the play offs this season. We haven't even spent the money we got for Bodin what the hell are our owners playing at ?
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Post by Peter Parker on Jan 31, 2018 14:59:24 GMT
Why are so many of you prepared to accept mid table, I think a fair proportion of our fans have been brainwashed into accepting mediocrity, we have got at least a championship quality fanbase and manager and with a little bit of ambition we can still make the play offs this season. We haven't even spent the money we got for Bodin what the hell are our owners playing at ? I'm not even sure I'd want us to get promoted, because the meltdown that would happen when we aren't signing Championship quality players because we can't 5/6/7/8k a week+ will be as boring as f**k
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2018 15:30:37 GMT
Why are so many of you prepared to accept mid table, I think a fair proportion of our fans have been brainwashed into accepting mediocrity, we have got at least a championship quality fanbase and manager and with a little bit of ambition we can still make the play offs this season. We haven't even spent the money we got for Bodin what the hell are our owners playing at ? I'm not even sure I'd want us to get promoted, because the meltdown that would happen when we aren't signing Championship quality players because we can't 5/6/7/8k a week+ will be as boring as f Much better to pay world class experts to work on plans for stadiums that never happen. Can we buy tickets to watch them work, replica white office shirts, those silly long black shoes that office types wear so that we can dress like them and strut around foreign destinations on our holidays to show our support?
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Post by c13 on Jan 31, 2018 16:05:50 GMT
I'm sitting on the fence on this one.
On one hand, I like our squad, we're working very well despite losing our star player, and we're certainly achieved what's expected of us with our current overall ability. Anyone expecting more than a bid for a midtable finish is way too optimistic.
On the other hand, some positions (namely, right back, defensive mid and wings) are lacking and what happens if someone on these positions gets injured? Throw a youngster from the U19s into the deep end?
So I won't be severely disappointed if we come out of this window empty-handed, but I'm not gonna pretend it's all fine and dandy.
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Post by laughinggas on Jan 31, 2018 16:11:05 GMT
I'm not even sure I'd want us to get promoted, because the meltdown that would happen when we aren't signing Championship quality players because we can't 5/6/7/8k a week+ will be as boring as f Much better to pay world class experts to work on plans for stadiums that never happen. Can we buy tickets to watch them work, replica white office shirts, those silly long black shoes that office types wear so that we can dress like them and strut around foreign destinations on our holidays to show our support? Have you seen how much that has been spent on the Arena which is miles away from being built and may now be somewhere else.....
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Post by eppinggas on Jan 31, 2018 16:15:57 GMT
Why are so many of you prepared to accept mid table, I think a fair proportion of our fans have been brainwashed into accepting mediocrity, we have got at least a championship quality fanbase and manager and with a little bit of ambition we can still make the play offs this season. We haven't even spent the money we got for Bodin what the hell are our owners playing at ? I agree - a lot of Gasheads are just programmed to accept mediocrity. I think DC has ambition - and from what I can see that is not being matched by our current owners (on and off the pitch). Remember he said that the only reason he is staying here is the supporters. Petulant? Maybe. Honest? Yes, I believe so. I would have liked a couple of additions to the squad (as would DC). A solid mid-table finish. Maybe even flirt with the play-offs. I would not expect us to go up. "If" we went up - I certainly wouldn't be expecting an influx of new players. I would expect the current squad to battle as best they can and get behind them. It's a moot point though. We do not currently have a squad with enough quality to push for promotion. DC asked for 3-4 players from either Waitrose, Aldi or Poundland (dependent on the budget he was allocated). We lost Bodin. In return we bought Mensah who can only be described as Poundland. We 'might' get Craig who is just about Waitrose quality on loan. Some people are rejoicing at that. Each to their own.
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Post by fanatical on Jan 31, 2018 16:21:08 GMT
Not sure about a "collective meltdown" if nothing else happens today. But let's have a quick re-cap. We have sold our best player and bought in a Mensah and Craig (on loan). That would leave Bodin - Mensah = around £300-£400k to spend. Now if Darrell can't bring in anyone in to improve the squad with that money - fair enough. But if this is what some fans think is a successful transfer window - I can only conclude that people have low levels of expectation. or that you talk rubbish
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Post by fanatical on Jan 31, 2018 16:23:06 GMT
Not sure about a "collective meltdown" if nothing else happens today. But let's have a quick re-cap. We have sold our best player and bought in a Mensah and Craig (on loan). That would leave Bodin - Mensah = around £300-£400k to spend. Now if Darrell can't bring in anyone in to improve the squad with that money - fair enough. But if this is what some fans think is a successful transfer window - I can only conclude that people have low levels of expectation. I think some have been totally seduced by mediocrity. I've seen people say recently that there has never been a better time to be a Rovers fan! Years of being run like a pub team obviously imparts some kind of Stockholm syndrome on the psyche. As for our transfer dealings, our form has offset the lack of signings which is great because I was terrified of Bodin leaving. His replacement appears to be kept back as one for the future so we have swapped the first name on the team sheet for one who will hardly feature. It is great we are on the up on the pitch but we are only a couple of injuries away from being in trouble. I was secretly hoping we could show some ambition and intent to put a run together til the end of the season but a lack of signings this window means I just hope we limp over the typical points threshold to avoid relegation and confirm another season in league one.Be prepared to be proven wrong
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Post by eppinggas on Jan 31, 2018 16:25:31 GMT
Much better to pay world class experts to work on plans for stadiums that never happen. Can we buy tickets to watch them work, replica white office shirts, those silly long black shoes that office types wear so that we can dress like them and strut around foreign destinations on our holidays to show our support? Have you seen how much that has been spent on the Arena which is miles away from being built and may now be somewhere else..... Maybe this is worthy of it's own thread? The Arena planned near Temple Meads is now dead. There was talk of it possibly re-locating to Filton. Potential joint venture/ multi-facility complex - maybe including a 20,000 capacity Stadium? Links to the M4/M5 - Any ambitious Football Club might leap at the... sh*t sorry. Mentioned the word ambitious. I'll try not to let it happen again. In the new Rovers badge latin motto competition I humbly submit: "Bristol Rovers FC - accipiens mediocritate".
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Post by DudeLebowski on Jan 31, 2018 16:33:44 GMT
Since when was our current on field situation, mediocre?
Must’ve missed that one.
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