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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 18:01:48 GMT
I thought liam sercombe played very well today,always trying to make things happen and non stop effort despite playing out of position,also thought harrison and leadbitter did well. That's your Christmas present sorted then, highlights video of today's game. We were shocking all over the field, it only got better when they backed off and gave us space to play. Clarke should make them watch that video and see how a team work to close the opposition down and how defenders hold their position and stand up strong. Nichols may as well make himself useful, he can put the kettle on whilst the footballers plan for their next game.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Nov 18, 2017 18:09:26 GMT
Absolute defensive shambles!
We need leadership, organisation and spirit in a captain.
This is a rovers in turmoil.
Fair play, Wombles....worthy of their win. They passed the ball, were more physical and their passes found their man. They played with tempo, determination and confidence can only dream of.
The manager says there'll be big changes affront because some players are not up to standard.....yea, start Nichols on who has a goalscoring record marginally better than lj, and drop the guy whom has best goal to mins ratio in division? Yea....drop the broadbean/mayo partnership that's conceded one goal in 180minutes, for an out of form (admittedly lovely guy and model professional) that has hardly gone 18minutes without conceding?
It's great what dc has done for us, and continues to boast about the proud record we hold at home, but he is in danger of risking it all because of the personnel he started with.
What changes should be made aren't, and while that's going on players out of form are continually picked and then continue to fail.
Carry on the way we are, we can only blame ourselves for consequences..
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Post by harrybuckle on Nov 18, 2017 18:14:58 GMT
Agreed Sercombe tried and did well as did Bodin when he came on. Cant see how those who rang Radio Bristol thought Leadbitter and Harrison played well. Both were poor.Sinclair deserved booking for simulation.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 18:23:11 GMT
Absolute defensive shambles! We need leadership, organisation and spirit in a captain. This is a rovers in turmoil. Fair play, Wombles....worthy of their win. They passed the ball, were more physical and their passes found their man. They played with tempo, determination and confidence can only dream of. The manager says there'll be big changes affront because some players are not up to standard.....yea, start Nichols on who has a goalscoring record marginally better than lj, and drop the guy whom has best goal to mins ratio in division? Yea....drop the broadbean/mayo partnership that's conceded one goal in 180minutes, for an out of form (admittedly lovely guy and model professional) that has hardly gone 18minutes without conceding? It's great what dc has done for us, and continues to boast about the proud record we hold at home, but he is in danger of risking it all because of the personnel he started with. What changes should be made aren't, and while that's going on players out of form are continually picked and then continue to fail. Carry on the way we are, we can only blame ourselves for consequences.. Said after the last home game, you can see, the players have had enough of it, there's only so many times they will go out and run themselves into the ground when the team selection and formation is wrong. Add to that, nobody in the defence has got a clue what they are supposed to be doing and there's nobody talking, apart from Lines, who is shouting rather than leading by example and putting in the hard yards, and you have a team that's unraveling before our eyes.
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Post by kegandeg on Nov 18, 2017 18:35:02 GMT
All this talk about the January transfer window being the holy grail really pisses me off. At the moment we have players, no the whole team who are underperforming, who's to say any players recruited then won't do the same. Which ever way you look at it were in big trouble. Clarke suggests the team is low on confidence, the goals we have been conceding are nothing to do with lack of confidence just rank bad defending.We have scored the same amount of goals as top team Shrewsbury, but have conceded exactly 3 times as many.
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Post by gasheadpirate on Nov 18, 2017 18:40:14 GMT
First half was the worst I have see. Rovers play for a very long time. They looked like strangers, made stupid mistakes and if we had played a good team, would have been six down by half-time.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Nov 18, 2017 19:14:20 GMT
First half was the worst I have see. Rovers play for a very long time. They looked like strangers, made stupid mistakes and if we had played a good team, would have been six down by half-time. You obviously weren't at Shrews, mate?! Exactly the same apart from clinical finishing..
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 19:30:06 GMT
All this talk about the January transfer window being the holy grail really pisses me off. At the moment we have players, no the whole team who are underperforming, who's to say any players recruited then won't do the same. Which ever way you look at it were in big trouble. Clarke suggests the team is low on confidence, the goals we have been conceding are nothing to do with lack of confidence just rank bad defending.We have scored the same amount of goals as top team Shrewsbury, but have conceded exactly 3 times as many. Apparently according to the other forum the blame for the defeat is down to those questioning the owners nothing to do with the players or manager
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 19:49:03 GMT
I think were a team very short of confidence right now and the centre-back problems being the most obvious sign of this,with the wimbledon target man making lockyer/broadbent look like little kids who can be easily brushed aside. Another problem touched on by another poster is our lack of physical strength as a team,we have somehow allowed our team to become less able to compete physically in a physical division. Mansell,easter,montano and mcchrystal may well have needed replacing at this level but they were all very physically strong footballers and we miss their like imo .
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Post by bs5 on Nov 18, 2017 20:27:21 GMT
All this talk about the January transfer window being the holy grail really pisses me off. At the moment we have players, no the whole team who are underperforming, who's to say any players recruited then won't do the same. Which ever way you look at it were in big trouble. Clarke suggests the team is low on confidence, the goals we have been conceding are nothing to do with lack of confidence just rank bad defending.We have scored the same amount of goals as top team Shrewsbury, but have conceded exactly 3 times as many. Apparently according to the other forum the blame for the defeat is down to those questioning the owners nothing to do with the players or manager there’s some right w@nkers on that other forum, managed to get myself banned from it last week fortunately
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Post by tauntongas on Nov 18, 2017 20:44:39 GMT
Agreed Sercombe tried and did well as did Bodin when he came on. Cant see how those who rang Radio Bristol thought Leadbitter and Harrison played well. Both were poor.Sinclair deserved booking for simulation. Leadbitter and Harrison were the most effective players for Rovers today. By a long way. Leads' pace down the right was one of our only outlets, rare as it was, as Sercombe and Sinclair (who seemed to both start in wide positions at the very beginning of the game?) were unable to deliver any impact going forward. More often than not, they received the ball with their backs to goal or they had to check back to pass backwards or sideways as there was no option ahead of them or they didn't have the pace to go past their man. Sercombe did grow into the game but it was too little, too late. Chris Lines was the same; he looked disinterested until we were three nil down and only seemed to improve because the Wimbledon midfield started backing off so much. He played some nice passes at the end but his game was largely pedestrian - he may well have been put off by yet another bad start by the team. Ellis Harrison worked off of very poor and very limited service today. He frequently had to drop back as far as the halfway line to try and get on the ball. He held the ball up relatively well when he did get on it, he rarely misused the ball but was ultimately well marshalled by the Wimbledon defence, who looked as assured and knowing of their tasks as much as our centre backs didn't. Ellis worked hard today and showed commitment to the cause which many fans would have said was lacking in his game, when he was younger. I see Eliss' all round game getting better, the only omission being goals, which will ultimately decide the direction of his career over the next year or two. Tom Broadbent reminds me a lot of Tom Parkes - big, physical, unafraid, may even be able to play a little bit; however he has got at least one big mistake in his locker, per game. This is difficult to live with at present but he has to be given time, seeing as his background has only recently afforded him a chance at league football. Unfortunately, it is time we cannot really afford to give at the moment. Tom Lockyer. Tom is a different question. I don't know if he lacks confidence, is jaded or tired or something but he does not look on top form at the moment. I think I would consider giving the captain's armband to someone else, to take some of the pressure off. Today was a very disappointing performance. We were undone too quickly and too easily by a good backheel by their number 33 (Taylor, is it? - he looked a handy player) and then we were swimming against the current from then on in. Roll on January. I think we could really benefit by bringing in another centre back, a central midfielder, a winger and centre forward and in that order of priority.
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Nov 18, 2017 20:46:03 GMT
Complete mess. Playing Nichols ahead of Gafney is just stupid, in fact, playing Nichols ahead of almost anybody with 2 legs is stupid, honestly don't care if we never see him in a Rovers' shirt again. How we weren't 4 down at half time I'll never know, our defence is pathetic and Lines just stands and watches. The 2nd goal sums it all up, 1 defender trying to deal with 2 players and nobody else could be bothered to run 10 yards to help. We have serious problems. My cat offers more goal threat than Nicholls and she died three years ago.
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Post by mangogas15 on Nov 18, 2017 22:13:30 GMT
Rovers are not doing the simple things. The basics. There was no cover behind leadbitter for the first goal and that's in the first minute. The 2nd was down to allowing a shot instead of blocking. The 3rd was a joke you wouldn't see on sunday morning in the park, 2 centre backs playing flat instead of one behind the other. We should be playing 3 centre backs because we don't have anyone in midfield to take responsibility to stay back so we are exposed as a back 4.
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Post by Igitur on Nov 18, 2017 22:40:51 GMT
It's like looking at the English Cricket and Football squads, along with Rovers there are good players/teams in each, but for some reason the selections are strange and because of changes they do not play as a team and there appears to be no steel. Captaincy is so important, I have never seen Lockyer get a grip or shout instructions, or even meekly suggest some - we do need a leader or two - Sercombe?
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Nov 19, 2017 8:14:02 GMT
All this talk about the January transfer window being the holy grail really pisses me off. At the moment we have players, no the whole team who are underperforming, who's to say any players recruited then won't do the same. Which ever way you look at it were in big trouble. Clarke suggests the team is low on confidence, the goals we have been conceding are nothing to do with lack of confidence just rank bad defending.We have scored the same amount of goals as top team Shrewsbury, but have conceded exactly 3 times as many. Apparently according to the other forum the blame for the defeat is down to those questioning the owners nothing to do with the players or manager That illustrates the level of understanding and maturity between the forums!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 9:22:10 GMT
Fantastic day yesterday with great friends,only spoiled by the "football". There's absolutely no confidence from anyone. Why Billy didn't start is beyond me.
Just watch us do something daft like beat the other BRFC next Saturday.
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Post by Peter Parker on Nov 19, 2017 9:42:01 GMT
It's like looking at the English Cricket and Football squads, along with Rovers there are good players/teams in each, but for some reason the selections are strange and because of changes they do not play as a team and there appears to be no steel. Captaincy is so important, I have never seen Lockyer get a grip or shout instructions, or even meekly suggest some - we do need a leader or two - Sercombe? But i say again why is that leadership all aBout Lockyer and constantly levelled at him? Making Sercombe captain will do what exactly. The other players need to stand up and take charge for themselves and for the team. If they are looking to Lockyer than they are hiding from there own responsibilities
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Post by Igitur on Nov 19, 2017 9:55:20 GMT
It's like looking at the English Cricket and Football squads, along with Rovers there are good players/teams in each, but for some reason the selections are strange and because of changes they do not play as a team and there appears to be no steel. Captaincy is so important, I have never seen Lockyer get a grip or shout instructions, or even meekly suggest some - we do need a leader or two - Sercombe? But i say again why is that leadership all aBout Lockyer and constantly levelled at him? Making Sercombe captain will do what exactly. The other players need to stand up and take charge for themselves and for the team. If they are looking to Lockyer than they are hiding from there own responsibilities Agreed to a degree, but organisations/teams tend to mimmick their leaders, it's the old XY principle. In a football team going through what we're going through we need an invidual to step up and rally the players, that should be the captain.
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Post by Igitur on Nov 19, 2017 10:17:02 GMT
It's like looking at the English Cricket and Football squads, along with Rovers there are good players/teams in each, but for some reason the selections are strange and because of changes they do not play as a team and there appears to be no steel. Captaincy is so important, I have never seen Lockyer get a grip or shout instructions, or even meekly suggest some - we do need a leader or two - Sercombe? But i say again why is that leadership all aBout Lockyer and constantly levelled at him? Making Sercombe captain will do what exactly. The other players need to stand up and take charge for themselves and for the team. If they are looking to Lockyer than they are hiding from there own responsibilities Billy agrees with you PP: www.bristolrovers.co.uk/news/2017/november/billyreactionafcwimbledon/
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 15:13:20 GMT
Apparently according to the other forum the blame for the defeat is down to those questioning the owners nothing to do with the players or manager there’s some right w@nkers on that other forum, managed to get myself banned from it last week fortunately I cancelled my registration
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