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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2017 11:05:56 GMT
Don't be one of those people who suggest something but won't give details. If what you are talking about is true then you can say it without fear, I'm sure the club Chairman would love to hear if someone has been poorly treated. All this stuff I say about the SC, it isn't a criticism of the good folk who turn up week in, week out. in all weathers, sell programes, 50/50 tickets and do anything they are asked to do to help the club they love, a lot of them don't even do it for free match tickets, they buy season tickets anyway. Those people are Rovers through and through, if/when we end up in a new/rebuilt stadium I just hope that their loyalty isn't forgotten. I have to be careful what i say because its still being investigated, but its to do with a so called Racist comment being made which is complete bollocks and the person has been cleared by the police If a Police investigation has been completed then you can tell us everything relating to that. I'll pop the kettle on.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Oct 7, 2017 11:09:06 GMT
I have to be careful what i say because its still being investigated, but its to do with a so called Racist comment being made which is complete bollocks and the person has been cleared by the police If a Police investigation has been completed then you can tell us everything relating to that. I'll pop the kettle on. All i will say is i'm a great believer in the term "innocent until proven guilty" but sadly that is not the case in this incident, quite the opposite in this case
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2017 11:11:09 GMT
If a Police investigation has been completed then you can tell us everything relating to that. I'll pop the kettle on. All i will say is i'm a great believer in the term "innocent until proven guilty" but sadly that is not the case in this incident, quite the opposite in this case But you've already stated that the Police say there's no case to answer, so tell us about it.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Oct 7, 2017 11:16:06 GMT
All i will say is i'm a great believer in the term "innocent until proven guilty" but sadly that is not the case in this incident, quite the opposite in this case But you've already stated that the Police say there's no case to answer, so tell us about it. When the situation is fully resolved i will report back
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2017 11:16:11 GMT
If a Police investigation has been completed then you can tell us everything relating to that. I'll pop the kettle on. All i will say is i'm a great believer in the term "innocent until proven guilty" but sadly that is not the case in this incident, quite the opposite in this case To be objective, and to stand up for the SC (in this case, as it happens, but it's a good psychological workout), you're alluding to guilt and condemning the perpetrators of some shocking action while giving no details about it, let alone proving them guilty.
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Post by PessimistGas on Oct 7, 2017 11:20:57 GMT
Effectively we don't have a Supporters Club. No-one I know who goes regularly is a member. It's one of the things I would have liked the new owners to address. They haven't. I suspect the average age is similar to the Tory party membership.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Oct 7, 2017 11:23:52 GMT
All i will say is i'm a great believer in the term "innocent until proven guilty" but sadly that is not the case in this incident, quite the opposite in this case To be objective, and to stand up for the SC (in this case, as it happens, but it's a good psychological workout), you're alluding to guilt and condemning the perpetrators of some shocking action while giving no details about it, let alone proving them guilty. That could be said about 50% of the posts on our forums regarding the ownership of this great club
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2017 11:29:33 GMT
Why can't we have a SC that is dynamic, fun and informative (2-way), not holy, decaying and quintessentially naff? It should be a commercial vehicle first and foremost. The current SC should be politely told "Thanks for the memories but let's move on". Ok let's do what you advocate.we close the sup porters club.stop the 50/50 draw.close the share scheme and the help line all of which I contribute to save me 10 pounds a week Great news. No for the question will the new owners make up the short fall in income or will they try to runderstand what the club has been doing for years. After what happened with the non new stadium No plans after 7 months of owning the grass at Almondsbury I have serious doubts about that
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Oct 7, 2017 11:53:59 GMT
For as long as I have been following the Rovers, the SC has effectively been running much of the day to day operations from turnstiles to programmes to tickets to merchandise. Now that's lovely and makes part of the community club, but it also holds back any real change or progression as you have "with all due respect" a committee of amateurs running a multi-million pound business. For all his faults, that's one of the things Hamer spotted on day one. Moving the club on from there without upsetting the good burghers of the SC who have really truly done a brilliant job to keep the club going despite whoever owns it, is just going to be hard. The new Commercial Director will need to be good and a diplomat to succeed in this as well as having to make a few initially unpopular decisions. The SC can be relevant in the future, but it's role will have to change and they need to find their own space to help the club away from hat they have traditionally done. A million years ago.I used to walk to Eastville from Totterdown very early doors to get a coach to away games.Tubby guy called,Andrews organised away travel for the Supporters club in those days.(I used to sell Golden Goal tickets opp Her Majesty's cinema at both first and second team games.)He was always jolly.Also remember in more recent times that Jim Chapell I think it was said we should model ourselves on Hartlepool!!!! ? Served our club well over the years BRSC but times they are a changing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2017 12:05:21 GMT
To be objective, and to stand up for the SC (in this case, as it happens, but it's a good psychological workout), you're alluding to guilt and condemning the perpetrators of some shocking action while giving no details about it, let alone proving them guilty. That could be said about 50% of the posts on our forums regarding the ownership of this great club Yes. It's a nuisance. It clouds out the genuine stuff. There's plenty to go on without alluding to a bogeyman under the stairs. Adding to it doesn't justify it.
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Post by manchestergas on Oct 7, 2017 12:08:57 GMT
Why can't we have a SC that is dynamic, fun and informative (2-way), not holy, decaying and quintessentially naff? It should be a commercial vehicle first and foremost. The current SC should be politely told "Thanks for the memories but let's move on". Ok let's do what you advocate.we close the sup porters club.stop the 50/50 draw.close the share scheme and the help line all of which I contribute to save me 10 pounds a week Great news. No for the question will the new owners make up the short fall in income or will they try to runderstand what the club has been doing for years. After what happened with the non new stadium No plans after 7 months of owning the grass at Almondsbury I have serious doubts about that No comment on the other points, but if the shop runs at a loss, it will drain the supporters club reserves and ultimately will have to be closed, and the only difference being the money from the sale of the shop will be gone. Also I am presuming once the sweetheart deal on rent expires loses will only increase.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2017 12:29:31 GMT
Ok let's do what you advocate.we close the sup porters club.stop the 50/50 draw.close the share scheme and the help line all of which I contribute to save me 10 pounds a week Great news. No for the question will the new owners make up the short fall in income or will they try to runderstand what the club has been doing for years. After what happened with the non new stadium No plans after 7 months of owning the grass at Almondsbury I have serious doubts about that No comment on the other points, but if the shop runs at a loss, it will drain the supporters club reserves and ultimately will have to be closed, and the only difference being the money from the sale of the shop will be gone. Also I am presuming once the sweetheart deal on rent expires loses will only increase. But if as those on here want the club is closed it won't matter about the shop because it won't be needed. Problem being that it's in the main only those non members want it closed. Bit like non shareholders of a company want to determine the way the company is run The only way to change things is to join and use your vote to effect change nothing is achieved from behind a keyboard
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Post by harrybuckle on Oct 7, 2017 12:40:09 GMT
No comment on the other points, but if the shop runs at a loss, it will drain the supporters club reserves and ultimately will have to be closed, and the only difference being the money from the sale of the shop will be gone. Also I am presuming once the sweetheart deal on rent expires loses will only increase. But if as those on here want the club is closed it won't matter about the shop because it won't be needed. Problem being that it's in the main only those non members want it closed. Bit like non shareholders of a company want to determine the way the company is run The only way to change things is to join and use your vote to effect change nothing is achieved from behind a keyboard spot on padstow you always talk good sense
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Post by harrybuckle on Oct 7, 2017 12:49:17 GMT
I propose Bamby and Vaughan to front a dynamic new commercial BRSC or whatever they want to call it. Our future is safe in their hands.
These guys are intelligent, have energy, spare time to sale 50/50 tickets on matchdays in all winds and weathers and attend long evening committee meetings discussing all things Bristol Rovers.
Guys the challenge has been made....grasp it PLEASE
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2017 13:01:31 GMT
I propose Bamby and Vaughan to front a dynamic new commercial BRSC or whatever they want to call it. Our future is safe in their hands. These guys are intelligent, have energy, spare time to sale 50/50 tickets on matchdays in all winds and weathers and attend long evening committee meetings discussing all things Bristol Rovers. Guys the challenge has been made....grasp it PLEASE It's a stuck record Harry. You are closer to the truth than you know, endless discussions, nothing changes, that's why the SC is still in the 1960s/70s. Here's the actual point, the club is supposed to represent the interests of supporters, does it do that or does the Chair see it's primary function as being there to support the FC? You don't actually have to reply by the way as I know the answer to that because I've been sat next to Jim when he's told me what he thinks the SC is for. BTW, I've done my bit selling on match days, it goes all the way back to Eastville, selling scratch cards in the stands, and whilst I admit that at Eastville I did do it as much as anything because I was still at school and didn't have the money to pay to get in, since leaving school I've never taken a free match day ticket for myself, can you say the same Harry?
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Post by harrybuckle on Oct 7, 2017 13:29:49 GMT
I propose Bamby and Vaughan to front a dynamic new commercial BRSC or whatever they want to call it. Our future is safe in their hands. These guys are intelligent, have energy, spare time to sale 50/50 tickets on matchdays in all winds and weathers and attend long evening committee meetings discussing all things Bristol Rovers. Guys the challenge has been made....grasp it PLEASE It's a stuck record Harry. You are closer to the truth than you know, endless discussions, nothing changes, that's why the SC is still in the 1960s/70s. Here's the actual point, the club is supposed to represent the interests of supporters, does it do that or does the Chair see it's primary function as being there to support the FC? You don't actually have to reply by the way as I know the answer to that because I've been sat next to Jim when he's told me what he thinks the SC is for. BTW, I've done my bit selling on match days, it goes all the way back to Eastville, selling scratch cards in the stands, and whilst I admit that at Eastville I did do it as much as anything because I was still at school and didn't have the money to pay to get in, since leaving school I've never taken a free match day ticket for myself, can you say the same Harry? I knew you had no backbone to rise to the challenge .....no such thing as a free lunch you know that Bamby ....You spend hours researching, writing an article for the award winning matchday programme, emailing it and then proof reading an 88page programme which takes like six hours for nothing ? Please do that for one game and I will respect you. You know you wont
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2017 13:53:40 GMT
I propose Bamby and Vaughan to front a dynamic new commercial BRSC or whatever they want to call it. Our future is safe in their hands. These guys are intelligent, have energy, spare time to sale 50/50 tickets on matchdays in all winds and weathers and attend long evening committee meetings discussing all things Bristol Rovers. Guys the challenge has been made....grasp it PLEASE It's a stuck record Harry. You are closer to the truth than you know, endless discussions, nothing changes, that's why the SC is still in the 1960s/70s. Here's the actual point, the club is supposed to represent the interests of supporters, does it do that or does the Chair see it's primary function as being there to support the FC? You don't actually have to reply by the way as I know the answer to that because I've been sat next to Jim when he's told me what he thinks the SC is for. BTW, I've done my bit selling on match days, it goes all the way back to Eastville, selling scratch cards in the stands, and whilst I admit that at Eastville I did do it as much as anything because I was still at school and didn't have the money to pay to get in, since leaving school I've never taken a free match day ticket for myself, can you say the same Harry? [br Umberleigh on here So no contribution for over 30 years and then only for a free ticket not a lot to boast about is it when any number of members give hours of their time free doing any number of jobs to raise funds for the club and I bet few if any would take a free ticket they would feel insulted by the offer and these are members of an organisation that a number on here want to dispose of. I bet that really makes them feel good
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2017 14:24:28 GMT
It's a stuck record Harry. You are closer to the truth than you know, endless discussions, nothing changes, that's why the SC is still in the 1960s/70s. Here's the actual point, the club is supposed to represent the interests of supporters, does it do that or does the Chair see it's primary function as being there to support the FC? You don't actually have to reply by the way as I know the answer to that because I've been sat next to Jim when he's told me what he thinks the SC is for. BTW, I've done my bit selling on match days, it goes all the way back to Eastville, selling scratch cards in the stands, and whilst I admit that at Eastville I did do it as much as anything because I was still at school and didn't have the money to pay to get in, since leaving school I've never taken a free match day ticket for myself, can you say the same Harry? [br Umberleigh on here So no contribution for over 30 years and then only for a free ticket not a lot to boast about is it when any number of members give hours of their time free doing any number of jobs to raise funds for the club and I bet few if any would take a free ticket they would feel insulted by the offer and these are members of an organisation that a number on here want to dispose of. I bet that really makes them feel good If you actually bothered reading what was written, you would realise that wasn't the case. But hey, don't let facts get in the way of your presuppositions and assumptions. I'll help you, it says that it goes all the way back to Eastville, not that it was only at Eastville. Why don't you direct the thing about free tickets towards Harry and see what response you get, see if he would be insulted at the offer and decline it
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2017 14:28:45 GMT
It's a stuck record Harry. You are closer to the truth than you know, endless discussions, nothing changes, that's why the SC is still in the 1960s/70s. Here's the actual point, the club is supposed to represent the interests of supporters, does it do that or does the Chair see it's primary function as being there to support the FC? You don't actually have to reply by the way as I know the answer to that because I've been sat next to Jim when he's told me what he thinks the SC is for. BTW, I've done my bit selling on match days, it goes all the way back to Eastville, selling scratch cards in the stands, and whilst I admit that at Eastville I did do it as much as anything because I was still at school and didn't have the money to pay to get in, since leaving school I've never taken a free match day ticket for myself, can you say the same Harry? I knew you had no backbone to rise to the challenge .....no such thing as a free lunch you know that Bamby ....You spend hours researching, writing an article for the award winning matchday programme, emailing it and then proof reading an 88page programme which takes like six hours for nothing ? Please do that for one game and I will respect you. You know you wont No interest in your childish challenge at all, I've done my bit, we have wealthy owners who have promised evolution into a progressive football club, the time for everything being done in a haphazard way by an army of volunteers has come and gone.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2017 14:52:19 GMT
I knew you had no backbone to rise to the challenge .....no such thing as a free lunch you know that Bamby ....You spend hours researching, writing an article for the award winning matchday programme, emailing it and then proof reading an 88page programme which takes like six hours for nothing ? Please do that for one game and I will respect you. You know you wont No interest in your childish challenge at all, I've done my bit, we have wealthy owners who have promised evolution into a progressive football club, the time for everything being done in a haphazard way by an army of volunteers has come and gone. Wish i had your confidence
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