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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2017 13:21:54 GMT
dc signed bodin as well,isnt it obvious where im coming from with this? I know where you’re going with it and I agree with you he did sign the snake and billy but he also has a history of signing underperforming strikers as well , expensive underformers I hasten to add. But I really hope that Nicols finds his feet at some point because something tells me he may have this talent but only for a glimmer I seen from him during a pre-season friendly v WBA where he was put through one on one with their keeper and stuck the ball away neatly with the keeper out off his line narrowing the angle making it look all so easy , the sort of thing that the snake couldn’t ever seem to do and I remember saying so at the time that he looked more confident in that situation than Taylor ever did . I think the expectation put on young shoulders has taken its burden and as each game passes this burden increases and has affected his performances massively. Somehow he needs to try and lose this mentality and play with more composure in front of goal and perhaps just perhaps he may have something , on the other side of the coin we have gave him time plenty of it in fact and not sure how much more time can be attributable towards the Nicols cause this season because of the position we find ourselves in . What about the expectation on the shoulders of ollie clarke Tom Lockyer and Ellis harrison they are of a similar age to nicholls but no one makes excuses for them and we didn't pay a fee for them. I don't think nicholls is a bad player but he is not suited to rovers style of play
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Post by siamman on Nov 26, 2017 13:43:54 GMT
Yawn, the next thread with a bit of negative. Do people sit and think,right then what else is s***e about following our club. Back it up with some examples please. I suppose you mean like 82 buying tried and trusted Snake? I agree with the OP I don’t think it’s negative at all to be fair as Nicols is looking like another expensive dud just like Luke James so yes DC has a history of signing some strikers who can’t score. You wouldn’t employ a cook if he didn’t know his way around a kitchen would you? Same applies DC has a history of signing strikers who can't score? Can't score for us you mean I'm assuming.Luke James was a disastrous signing but Nichols scored more goals in this division last season than Ellis or Gaffney.Maybe he was played in a front 2 on a regular basis and not stuck out on the left of a front 3 all the time with us.In hindsight,for one reason or another it's not working out as yet,but I can't recall at the time he signed anyone saying he couldn't score.Some players take longer than others to hit their straps,BBB 6 months? Give this lad more time he can come good for us.I am also in your minority of 1 Doc Foster.😄
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Post by barleycorn48 on Nov 26, 2017 14:41:31 GMT
Tom Nichols is the sort of player who would benefit from playing alongside a tall centre foreward and feed off his lay offs. Unfortunately we lack such a player. In fact we lack a complete spine to the side, Brian Clough always said get the backbone of the side right first in your team building,
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Nov 26, 2017 14:49:29 GMT
Tom Nichols is the sort of player who would benefit from playing alongside a tall centre foreward and feed off his lay offs. Unfortunately we lack such a player. In fact we lack a complete spine to the side, Brian Clough always said get the backbone of the side right first in your team building, And for some reason when he plays,Gaffers always goes out wide!!!!
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Post by kegandeg on Nov 26, 2017 15:47:27 GMT
Regular goalscorers need to be selfish, greedy, and hungry Nichols doesn't fall into any of these categories end of.
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Post by GasPanic! on Nov 26, 2017 18:43:03 GMT
Would happily bin him off at the end of the season as he's pretty woeful.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2017 18:51:36 GMT
I agree with the OP I don’t think it’s negative at all to be fair as Nicols is looking like another expensive dud just like Luke James so yes DC has a history of signing some strikers who can’t score. You wouldn’t employ a cook if he didn’t know his way around a kitchen would you? Same applies DC has a history of signing strikers who can't score? Can't score for us you mean I'm assuming.Luke James was a disastrous signing but Nichols scored more goals in this division last season than Ellis or Gaffney.Maybe he was played in a front 2 on a regular basis and not stuck out on the left of a front 3 all the time with us.In hindsight,for one reason or another it's not working out as yet,but I can't recall at the time he signed anyone saying he couldn't score.Some players take longer than others to hit their straps,BBB 6 months? Give this lad more time he can come good for us.I am also in your minority of 1 Doc Foster.😄 He may have scored more goals but if you add the games Harrison and Gaffney played because it was always one or the other and the goals they scored I think you will find they scored more
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Post by siamman on Nov 26, 2017 22:34:19 GMT
DC has a history of signing strikers who can't score? Can't score for us you mean I'm assuming.Luke James was a disastrous signing but Nichols scored more goals in this division last season than Ellis or Gaffney.Maybe he was played in a front 2 on a regular basis and not stuck out on the left of a front 3 all the time with us.In hindsight,for one reason or another it's not working out as yet,but I can't recall at the time he signed anyone saying he couldn't score.Some players take longer than others to hit their straps,BBB 6 months? Give this lad more time he can come good for us.I am also in your minority of 1 Doc Foster.😄 He may have scored more goals but if you add the games Harrison and Gaffney played because it was always one or the other and the goals they scored I think you will find they scored more Just in league games played last season. Ellis 37 games 8 goals. Games per goal 4.62 Gaffney 34 games 6 goals. Games per goal 5.66 Nichols 43 games 10 goals. Games per goal 4.30 So not a lot between them but Nichols was the best of a fairly average bunch.Nice to see Gaffney has 6 goals already this season I think, in not many appearances and Ellis has been a revelation in his last dozen games or so and the pair of them are on course to easily surpass last seasons totals.Still time for Nichols to come good if played in the right position but on form Ellis and Gaff should both be starting ahead of Nichols.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2017 21:08:55 GMT
We simply cannot risk our Division 1 status on a striker who is lightweight and does not score. Get rid and give Telford a run out. £300k wasted. DC made a mistake. Move on. Well I can't argue with that. We can't risk our third division status for anything or anyone; the basement fourth division is one in which to rot and decline, and probably watch the next generation all follow BC1982. I'll vote for 'give Telford a run out' more than 'get rid', though; I'm ever the optimist with gradual player development. As for DC conceding his mistake (presumably by dropping his most costly signing), conceding mistakes and backing down is probably not our manager's style. It's probably both a strength and a weakness. Let's hope more the former.
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 28, 2017 10:11:28 GMT
I am a big DC fan - but he is certainly not infallible. He persevered with Luke James (zero goals from 24 appearances) and it looks like it's going the same way with Nichols. It's now 1 goal from 20 starts (league, FA Cup, league Cup - 5 as a sub). Last season he was playing in a formation which suited him more. For Peterborough Nichols games per goal 4.3. For Bristol Rovers Nichols games per goal 20. And MK Franchise put it on a silver plate for him, wrapped it in shiny paper and put a bow on it.
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Post by PeterHooper57 on Nov 28, 2017 14:47:11 GMT
I would really like Nichols to live up to his pre-season hype, unfortunately, at the moment he is struggling, it does not help that he tends to drift out onto the wings, that said, DC cannot afford to wait like he did with Luke James, last season by Christmas we already banked a shed load of goals from the Snake, Nichols needs to start scoring asap or DC will need to replace him during the January window.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 28, 2017 17:00:44 GMT
I would really like Nichols to live up to his pre-season hype, unfortunately, at the moment he is struggling, it does not help that he tends to drift out onto the wings, that said, DC cannot afford to wait like he did with Luke James, last season by Christmas we already banked a shed load of goals from the Snake, Nichols needs to start scoring asap or DC will need to replace him during the January window. He will have a job doing that. I’d doubt anyone would pay what we did and we have basically been told Jan is a no no & so I expect only loans. We do have Telford but he could well want away given the matchtime he’s been given. I think DC is trying his utmost to rationalise his purchase but we can’t keep carrying dead weight, can we ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 17:15:42 GMT
Tom Nichols is the sort of player who would benefit from playing alongside a tall centre foreward and feed off his lay offs. Unfortunately we lack such a player. In fact we lack a complete spine to the side. I totally agree, I wonder if DC looked for a big centre forward in the summer but couldn't find one at the right price ? I think that Rovers need 4 players and to keep Bodin,sadly I don't expect new players or Bodin to stay,really hope that I am proved wrong.
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Nov 28, 2017 19:37:12 GMT
Jonny Burn gone out on loan to-day to York so not been too successful for him with us.Not impressed at all with Nicholls. Not up to it physically..Loans this season not set the world on fire and rarely feature .Remember we had loans from Man City and Swansea not long ago who rarely featured.Options very limited with current squad so hope we stay injury free during Dec'. Youngsters scored 11 to-day so let's hope their progress continues.
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Post by kegandeg on Nov 28, 2017 19:47:19 GMT
A big centre forward for f**ks sake it's 2017 not 1971. Would smash and grab get any goals in today's football ? Hold on a minute does anybody know their numbers we could be onto something here. Big centre forward were meant to be moving forward not f**kin backwards!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 20:06:06 GMT
A big centre forward for fs sake it's 2017 not 1971. Would smash and grab get any goals in today's football ? Hold on a minute does anybody know their numbers we could be onto something here. Big centre forward were meant to be moving forward not fin backwards! Yes of course warboys and bannister would score goals today. Why wouldnt they?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 20:15:39 GMT
A big centre forward for fs sake it's 2017 not 1971. Would smash and grab get any goals in today's football ? Hold on a minute does anybody know their numbers we could be onto something here. Big centre forward were meant to be moving forward not fin backwards! Yes of course warboys and bannister would score goals today. Why wouldnt they? Because they're 70 and 68. This thread is s**t. Nicholls is a good player struggling for form. He's not the first and won't be the last.
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Post by LPGas on Nov 28, 2017 20:58:53 GMT
It took the snake ages to start scoring regularly. FFS give Nichols a chance! He is a class player, anyone who knows anything about football can see in the way he moves, passes, and his vision that he is a first rate footballer.The goals will come. i'L bet you £50 he wont get over ten this season, for £25k less we could have bought the player that scored 3 against us for Bradford. We would have been better signing Luke James. He could head the ball and he would have been free and not the £374k reported by Peterborough. And why did we sign him? ..................well Stewart knew him at Exeter. DC said he made mistakes during the summer, and he wasn't kidding. Easter and Monty could have had another season for that sort of money
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Post by LPGas on Nov 28, 2017 21:00:58 GMT
Alledgdly £300k on Nicholls. Bradford spend £250k on man who scores a hat trick last Saturday. We have too many players who average at best How does anyone know what we paid please ? I know the idiot who owns posh was saying he didn't feature in this seasons plans and that he did well to get the money he did for him but I've seen no figures been bandied about. Any links ? Thanks in advance Peterborough said it was £374k
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 29, 2017 19:01:24 GMT
How does anyone know what we paid please ? I know the idiot who owns posh was saying he didn't feature in this seasons plans and that he did well to get the money he did for him but I've seen no figures been bandied about. Any links ? Thanks in advance Peterborough said it was £374k Just wow. I thought it had to be BS. Unbelievable
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