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Post by a more piratey game on Aug 17, 2017 19:55:51 GMT
AFC Bournemouth have today (Monday, 14th August) submitted a planning application for a new multi-million pound training complex. The document, submitted to Borough of Poole, applies for outline planning permission for the 57-acre Canford Magna Golf Club site, which AFC Bournemouth have recently acquired. The club are planning a phased development and, once completed, it will bring AFC Bournemouth’s first team, development squad, academy and pre-academy training operations and facilities into one location. The centre will offer first-class facilities including ten full-size pitches, three junior pitches, an indoor artificial playing surface, state-of-the-art medical, fitness, sports science and rehabilitation facilities, administrative space and a press conference theatre. Once the club’s planning application has been approved, work will begin immediately. AFC Bournemouth chief executive Neill Blake said: “This is another hugely exciting development for the club, on the back of our recent announcement regarding a new stadium in Kings Park. “Our existing training site has served the club very well, but will be developed on to accommodate our plans for the future. “Therefore, it was important to find a suitable location in which we can build training facilities that are befitting of a Premier League club and provide everything we need to continue maintaining and enhancing the performance of elite footballers. “The proposed training complex will not only offer first class facilities for Premier League footballers but also provide the perfect place to help develop the next generation of AFC Bournemouth stars. “This development is another statement of intent from the club, and shows the commitment of the shareholders to the continued vision of progression for AFC Bournemouth, while maintaining stability.” www.afcb.co.uk/news/club-news/plans-submitted-for-new-training-complex |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 17, 2017 20:34:46 GMT
It's interesting that other clubs around the country create their own facilities, seemingly trouble-free, and yet every project since 1980s here, in Bristol area and surrounds has been strangled, hampered or just plain scuppered.
That's years upon years of progress halted because of poor forward thought, funding non promises, council opposition, local opposition, political opponents getting involved, etc etc....any excuse.(?)
Scunthorpe among others broke the trend in 80s and moved out of town. Now even their ground is considered old hat.
Why is this part of the world so difficult to redevelop in name of sport (franchise apart)?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 21:05:12 GMT
It's interesting that other clubs around the country create their own facilities, seemingly trouble-free, and yet every project since 1980s here, in Bristol area and surrounds has been strangled, hampered or just plain scuppered. That's years upon years of progress halted because of poor forward thought, funding non promises, council opposition, local opposition, political opponents getting involved, etc etc....any excuse.(?) Scunthorpe among others broke the trend in 80s and moved out of town. Now even their ground is considered old hat. Why is this part of the world so difficult to redevelop in name of sport (franchise apart)? Nobody has been prepared to spend any money? |
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Aug 17, 2017 21:25:05 GMT
I see that Russian money laundering operation is still going well on the South Coast then...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 22:14:55 GMT
It's interesting that other clubs around the country create their own facilities, seemingly trouble-free, and yet every project since 1980s here, in Bristol area and surrounds has been strangled, hampered or just plain scuppered. That's years upon years of progress halted because of poor forward thought, funding non promises, council opposition, local opposition, political opponents getting involved, etc etc....any excuse.(?) Scunthorpe among others broke the trend in 80s and moved out of town. Now even their ground is considered old hat. Why is this part of the world so difficult to redevelop in name of sport (franchise apart)?Lansdown has sunk a fortune in to that, and what has he got? A 2nd division football club that's a mile behind the top teams in the division. A Rugby club that had years to prepare for promotion, but didn't. A basketball team that are average at best. Lacrosse or something? No idea what else really, that's how much of an impact it's had locally. Oh, and a £300,000 player that he doesn't use. Off to FGR you go Turncoat. But back in our world, if the owners want to get into the 2nd tier and stay there they need to stop messing around, get their hands in their pockets, sort that training ground out, get a stadium built and forget any ideas they may have had about making money from Rovers, cause the only way that's happening is if they get into the PL. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 18, 2017 3:31:33 GMT
It's interesting that other clubs around the country create their own facilities, seemingly trouble-free, and yet every project since 1980s here, in Bristol area and surrounds has been strangled, hampered or just plain scuppered. That's years upon years of progress halted because of poor forward thought, funding non promises, council opposition, local opposition, political opponents getting involved, etc etc....any excuse.(?) Scunthorpe among others broke the trend in 80s and moved out of town. Now even their ground is considered old hat. Why is this part of the world so difficult to redevelop in name of sport (franchise apart)? Nobody has been prepared to spend any money? Not in the cases of redevelopment projects of Stoke Gifford, Avonmouth or St Phillips. Planning permission was simply not granted and funding wasn't an issue! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2017 6:42:41 GMT
Nobody has been prepared to spend any money? Not in the cases of redevelopment projects of Stoke Gifford, Avonmouth or St Phillips. Planning permission was simply not granted and funding wasn't an issue! Planning applications were not submitted. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2017 6:55:27 GMT
Nobody has been prepared to spend any money? Not in the cases of redevelopment projects of Stoke Gifford, Avonmouth or St Phillips. Planning permission was simply not granted and funding wasn't an issue! They never got far enough for us to find out whether funding was an issue. I suspect that is because funding was an issue. |
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Post by faggotygas on Aug 18, 2017 7:57:58 GMT
It's interesting that other clubs around the country create their own facilities, seemingly trouble-free, and yet every project since 1980s here, in Bristol area and surrounds has been strangled, hampered or just plain scuppered. That's years upon years of progress halted because of poor forward thought, funding non promises, council opposition, local opposition, political opponents getting involved, etc etc....any excuse.(?) Scunthorpe among others broke the trend in 80s and moved out of town. Now even their ground is considered old hat. Why is this part of the world so difficult to redevelop in name of sport (franchise apart)? Um. Money. We don't have any. Bournemouth do. |
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Aug 18, 2017 8:59:53 GMT
It's interesting that other clubs around the country create their own facilities, seemingly trouble-free, and yet every project since 1980s here, in Bristol area and surrounds has been strangled, hampered or just plain scuppered. That's years upon years of progress halted because of poor forward thought, funding non promises, council opposition, local opposition, political opponents getting involved, etc etc....any excuse.(?) Scunthorpe among others broke the trend in 80s and moved out of town. Now even their ground is considered old hat. Why is this part of the world so difficult to redevelop in name of sport (franchise apart)? Um. Money. We don't have any. Bournemouth do. In the past 25 years the following clubs, off the top of my head, have built new grounds: Walsall Shrewsbury Chesterfield Colchester Scunny Forest Green (before Stale Mince arrived) Oxford Burton Wycombe Others, such as Gillingham, Blackpool and Orient, have completely redeveloped their current ground. Question - which of these clubs had a pot to piss in at the time of development? |
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Post by faggotygas on Aug 18, 2017 9:43:41 GMT
Um. Money. We don't have any. Bournemouth do. In the past 25 years the following clubs, off the top of my head, have built new grounds: Walsall Shrewsbury Chesterfield Colchester Scunny Forest Green (before Stale Mince arrived) Oxford Burton Wycombe Others, such as Gillingham, Blackpool and Orient, have completely redeveloped their current ground. Question - which of these clubs had a pot to piss in at the time of development? Those are good choices of clubs, if you are suggesting that we build a ground with a capacity smaller than the Mem!
Walsall - Nope, 27 years ago. Capacity only 11,000
Shrewsbury - Capacity only just over 10,000
Chesterfield - 8,500
Colchester - Capacity 10,000 and owned by the Council, not the club
Scunny - Nope, 29 years ago. Capacity 9,000
Forest Green (before Stale Mince arrived) - Capacity 5,000
Oxford - Capacity 12,500 and not owned by the club
Burton - Capacity 7,000
Wycombe - Nope, 27 years ago. Capacity 10,000
Most of these clubs were able to pay for thier new grounds by selling thier existing grounds for development and buying cheaper land elsewhere. We could do that, if our ambition was to build a 10,000 seater stadium. But that would be a bit pointless, wouldn't it?
Gillingham refurbished thier stadium, but faced severe financial problems as a result, eventually selling the ground to a holding company. Blackpool - a couple of small new stands, funded by the Oyston family Orient - a couple of small new stands, paid for by Barry Hearn.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 18, 2017 9:52:04 GMT
Not in the cases of redevelopment projects of Stoke Gifford, Avonmouth or St Phillips. Planning permission was simply not granted and funding wasn't an issue! Planning applications were not submitted. I thought it was more like health and safety at avonmouth, and residents complaints about traffic at stoke giff.....which is a joke considering m o d traffic is daily and ours would've been 23/365 days! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2017 9:58:13 GMT
In the past 25 years the following clubs, off the top of my head, have built new grounds: Walsall Shrewsbury Chesterfield Colchester Scunny Forest Green (before Stale Mince arrived) Oxford Burton Wycombe Others, such as Gillingham, Blackpool and Orient, have completely redeveloped their current ground. Question - which of these clubs had a pot to piss in at the time of development? Those are good choices of clubs, if you are suggesting that we build a ground with a capacity smaller than the Mem!
Walsall - Nope, 27 years ago. Capacity only 11,000
Shrewsbury - Capacity only just over 10,000
Chesterfield - 8,500
Colchester - Capacity 10,000 and owned by the Council, not the club
Scunny - Nope, 29 years ago. Capacity 9,000
Forest Green (before Stale Mince arrived) - Capacity 5,000
Oxford - Capacity 12,500 and not owned by the club
Burton - Capacity 7,000
Wycombe - Nope, 27 years ago. Capacity 10,000
Most of these clubs were able to pay for thier new grounds by selling thier existing grounds for development and buying cheaper land elsewhere. We could do that, if our ambition was to build a 10,000 seater stadium. But that would be a bit pointless, wouldn't it?
Gillingham refurbished thier stadium, but faced severe financial problems as a result, eventually selling the ground to a holding company. Blackpool - a couple of small new stands, funded by the Oyston family Orient - a couple of small new stands, paid for by Barry Hearn.
The football club has paid for and built a permanent structure since the Tote End in 1935. I dream of something like Sparda-Bank-Hessen-Stadion or Stadion An der Alten Försterei. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2017 10:02:15 GMT
Planning applications were not submitted. I thought it was more like health and safety at avonmouth, and residents complaints about traffic at stoke giff.....which is a joke considering m o d traffic is daily and ours would've been 23/365 days! Had either of those obstacles been overcome, where was the funding coming from? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2017 10:03:54 GMT
I thought it was more like health and safety at avonmouth, and residents complaints about traffic at stoke giff.....which is a joke considering m o d traffic is daily and ours would've been 23/365 days! Had either of those obstacles been overcome, where was the funding coming from? Geoff would have used to the money he spent on a double decker for Sharon. |
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Post by faggotygas on Aug 18, 2017 12:25:28 GMT
Those are good choices of clubs, if you are suggesting that we build a ground with a capacity smaller than the Mem!
Walsall - Nope, 27 years ago. Capacity only 11,000
Shrewsbury - Capacity only just over 10,000
Chesterfield - 8,500
Colchester - Capacity 10,000 and owned by the Council, not the club
Scunny - Nope, 29 years ago. Capacity 9,000
Forest Green (before Stale Mince arrived) - Capacity 5,000
Oxford - Capacity 12,500 and not owned by the club
Burton - Capacity 7,000
Wycombe - Nope, 27 years ago. Capacity 10,000
Most of these clubs were able to pay for thier new grounds by selling thier existing grounds for development and buying cheaper land elsewhere. We could do that, if our ambition was to build a 10,000 seater stadium. But that would be a bit pointless, wouldn't it?
Gillingham refurbished thier stadium, but faced severe financial problems as a result, eventually selling the ground to a holding company. Blackpool - a couple of small new stands, funded by the Oyston family Orient - a couple of small new stands, paid for by Barry Hearn.
The football club has paid for and built a permanent structure since the Tote End in 1935. I dream of something like Sparda-Bank-Hessen-Stadion or Stadion An der Alten Försterei. I always find this argument a bit churlish. The club paid for an entire stadium, its where we play now - it just happened to already be built!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2017 12:31:49 GMT
The football club has paid for and built a permanent structure since the Tote End in 1935. I dream of something like Sparda-Bank-Hessen-Stadion or Stadion An der Alten Försterei. I always find this argument a bit churlish. The club paid for an entire stadium, its where we play now - it just happened to already be built!
I mean, it's not though. The club has completely neglected the Mem for the near 20 years we've owned it. Not investing a penny in the place. I don't think it's churlish to point out no investment has been made into improving a stadium since 1935. It's all be funded by supporters, insurance and third parties. |
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Post by PessimistGas on Aug 18, 2017 12:50:35 GMT
I always find this argument a bit churlish. The club paid for an entire stadium, its where we play now - it just happened to already be built!
I mean, it's not though. The club has completely neglected the Mem for the near 20 years we've owned it. Not investing a penny in the place. I don't think it's churlish to point out no investment has been made into improving a stadium since 1935. It's all be funded by supporters, insurance and third parties. A roof on the Blackthorn, paid for by the suppporters, and a couple of tents in over 20 years at the Mem. What a joke. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2017 12:51:27 GMT
I mean, it's not though. The club has completely neglected the Mem for the near 20 years we've owned it. Not investing a penny in the place. I don't think it's churlish to point out no investment has been made into improving a stadium since 1935. It's all be funded by supporters, insurance and third parties. A roof on the Blackthorn, paid for the suppporters, and a couple of tents in over 20 years at the Mem. What a joke. You forgot a roof over the family enclosure paid for by us and floodlights... paid for by us. |
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Post by PessimistGas on Aug 18, 2017 12:52:16 GMT
A roof on the Blackthorn, paid for the suppporters, and a couple of tents in over 20 years at the Mem. What a joke. You forgot a roof over the family enclosure paid for by us and floodlights... paid for by us. I've probably spent more doing up my house in recent years. |
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