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Post by d3d4 on Aug 16, 2017 7:42:31 GMT
Hi all,
I understand that the new stadium plans have, yet again, fallen through and that your chairman has now decided to re-develop the Memorial Ground. I really like the Mem and am please that you will be staying but do you know what "redevelopment" means in this case.
I have had a lot of questions regarding facilities upgrade eg for disabled supporters and have basically being telling people that the redevelopment will be extensive and take all these things into consideration.
Can you shed some light on this? If this is instead of moving to a new ground I am assuming that the changes to the Mem will be extensive and cover a lot and will not be just superficial.
oh and safe standing idea, GREAT STUFF!
thanks James D3D4Football |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 8:02:38 GMT
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Post by Curly Wurly on Aug 16, 2017 8:05:33 GMT
Hi all,
I understand that the new stadium plans have, yet again, fallen through and that your chairman has now decided to re-develop the Memorial Ground. I really like the Mem and am please that you will be staying but do you know what "redevelopment" means in this case.
I have had a lot of questions regarding facilities upgrade eg for disabled supporters and have basically being telling people that the redevelopment will be extensive and take all these things into consideration.
Can you shed some light on this? If this is instead of moving to a new ground I am assuming that the changes to the Mem will be extensive and cover a lot and will not be just superficial.
oh and safe standing idea, GREAT STUFF!
thanks James D3D4Football Early days yet as we are only just recovering from the decision to pull out of the UWE development. Indeed some are hoping that this is a bargaining ploy to get the university to accept more favourable terms - although the President has denied this. Previous plans were developed and accepted back in 2008 to completely redevelop the Mem, but these were shelved after the deal to develop student accommodation integrated with the ground fell through. Given that we've been attempting to develop a decent ground of our own for nearly 40 years, at a rate of one new proposal every five years, most Rovers supporters are fairly cynical that plans will actually go through, yet we can all live in hope. There is a history of plans being objected to and going through the full extent of the legal process. Very costly and frustrating. The Memorial stadium site is not the biggest, since part of the land was sold for housing by the previous owners. However, it hopefully means that any development will be compact and lend to the atmosphere. Many of us would be in favour of significant safe standing areas within the development, so we will see what emerges. I would also fully expect that good disabled facilities would be included as well as an element of community facilities. We were told by the previous chairman that staying at the Mem was not a sustainable option and we needed to move to a new site in order to deliver a development that would bring a suitable match day and non match day income. It will be interesting to see what emerge within the new plans on that front. As investment bankers, Our owners should know what makes a good development in that respect. By the way, thanks for the L1 season preview. At the time I was thinking we should finish higher than your panel suggested, but given our poor start, you were probably spot on. |
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Post by trunky on Aug 16, 2017 9:22:23 GMT
Hi all,
I understand that the new stadium plans have, yet again, fallen through and that your chairman has now decided to re-develop the Memorial Ground. I really like the Mem and am please that you will be staying but do you know what "redevelopment" means in this case.
I have had a lot of questions regarding facilities upgrade eg for disabled supporters and have basically being telling people that the redevelopment will be extensive and take all these things into consideration.
Can you shed some light on this? If this is instead of moving to a new ground I am assuming that the changes to the Mem will be extensive and cover a lot and will not be just superficial.
oh and safe standing idea, GREAT STUFF!
thanks James D3D4Football I am not at all confident that the redevelopment will go ahead, listening to Wael's interview it all sounds very vague with quotes like we have got to have consultations, and we have got several options,surely if this was a plan B we should have had some basic groundwork done and have been ready to move fairly quickly. I am becoming very cynical about anything that comes out of the club at the moment. |
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Aug 16, 2017 9:28:31 GMT
 Agree.Saw this on Steve Hamer's office door to-day. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 15:51:45 GMT
Not sure if anybody else has mentioned it but the club had to acquire several domestic properties to enable the Mem regeneration plans to go ahead. As far as I am aware these have since been sold. This could cause a long and potentially expensive hurdle to overcome just to get to a position to submit a full planning application. I'm in the "it won't happen" club when it comes to this unplanned plan b and agree with GD that a leased site with a wholly owned stadium is not an issue unless there is no appetite to do a deal.
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Post by Peter Parker on Aug 17, 2017 16:08:11 GMT
Not sure if anybody else has mentioned it but the club had to acquire several domestic properties to enable the Mem regeneration plans to go ahead. As far as I am aware these have since been sold. This could cause a long and potentially expensive hurdle to overcome just to get to a position to submit a full planning application. I'm in the "it won't happen" club when it comes to this unplanned plan b and agree with GD that a leased site with a wholly owned stadium is not an issue unless there is no appetite to do a deal. But that’s the trouble, there are some different reasons, rumours and questions from Hani doesn’t want to spend any money, The Al-Qadi’s want the freehold, to not knowing what UWE wanted to take from the deal etc,etc. I don’t think many of us think leasehold is necessarily a problem, as long as BRFC is generating plenty of money to go back into the club and pay off investors, but without knowing what Dwane Sports were asking for and what UWE wanted to keep we are all in the dark on that Whther Nick Higgs owns us, The Al-Qadi’s or someone else, the money has to be to raised to redevelop The Mem or to build UWE; and unless someone is willing to sink in a personal fortune and write it off like Steve Lansdown, it will need to be repaid in some fashion. |
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Post by womble on Aug 17, 2017 16:32:04 GMT
Not sure if anybody else has mentioned it but the club had to acquire several domestic properties to enable the Mem regeneration plans to go ahead. As far as I am aware these have since been sold. This could cause a long and potentially expensive hurdle to overcome just to get to a position to submit a full planning application. I'm in the "it won't happen" club when it comes to this unplanned plan b and agree with GD that a leased site with a wholly owned stadium is not an issue unless there is no appetite to do a deal. That was certainly the case for the Sainsbury's development, in order to give sufficient access to the shoppers car park and for HGV deliveries. I don't remember seeing any houses removed for the student accommodation financed redevelopment, although to be fair that's quite a while ago now! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 16:33:53 GMT
Not sure if anybody else has mentioned it but the club had to acquire several domestic properties to enable the Mem regeneration plans to go ahead. As far as I am aware these have since been sold. This could cause a long and potentially expensive hurdle to overcome just to get to a position to submit a full planning application. I'm in the "it won't happen" club when it comes to this unplanned plan b and agree with GD that a leased site with a wholly owned stadium is not an issue unless there is no appetite to do a deal. That was certainly the case for the Sainsbury's development, in order to give sufficient access to the shoppers car park and for HGV deliveries. I don't remember seeing any houses removed for the student accommodation financed redevelopment, although to be fair that's quite a while ago now! There were certainly a few blighted by the development and they were purchased by directors and rented out. |
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Post by Angas on Aug 17, 2017 16:46:02 GMT
That was certainly the case for the Sainsbury's development, in order to give sufficient access to the shoppers car park and for HGV deliveries. I don't remember seeing any houses removed for the student accommodation financed redevelopment, although to be fair that's quite a while ago now! There were certainly a few blighted by the development and they were purchased by directors and rented out. If there's enough money to redevelop the stadium, I would imagine there's enough to buy up a few houses if that's what's needed to make it happen. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 16:55:45 GMT
There were certainly a few blighted by the development and they were purchased by directors and rented out. If there's enough money to redevelop the stadium, I would imagine there's enough to buy up a few houses if that's what's needed to make it happen. I was thinking more of timescale than cost Ann. When they were purchased last time it was from the developers off plan and not a private individual. They obviously didn't know that it was the club who needed them or there would have been a ransom demand. |
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Post by Angas on Aug 17, 2017 17:08:17 GMT
If there's enough money to redevelop the stadium, I would imagine there's enough to buy up a few houses if that's what's needed to make it happen. I was thinking more of timescale than cost Ann. When they were purchased last time it was from the developers off plan and not a private individual. They obviously didn't know that it was the club who needed them or there would have been a ransom demand. So they were the new houses behind the car park? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 17:11:31 GMT
I was thinking more of timescale than cost Ann. When they were purchased last time it was from the developers off plan and not a private individual. They obviously didn't know that it was the club who needed them or there would have been a ransom demand. So they were the new houses behind the car park? werent they the ones colin williams owned ?, i seem to remember it got s**tty over selling them or something |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 17:50:56 GMT
I was thinking more of timescale than cost Ann. When they were purchased last time it was from the developers off plan and not a private individual. They obviously didn't know that it was the club who needed them or there would have been a ransom demand. So they were the new houses behind the car park? That's the ones. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 17:51:13 GMT
So they were the new houses behind the car park? werent they the ones colin williams owned ?, i seem to remember it got s***ty over selling them or something No, his daughter. |
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Post by Angas on Aug 17, 2017 18:10:15 GMT
I'm surprised houses that side were affected by the proposed plans back then. I thought it was mainly the ones behind the west stand. Looking at Dr Dee's clever pics the other day we wouldn't need to build right up to any houses necessarily this time around - even that it's possible to pull a little bit away from the ones which are closest at the moment (well that's what my optimistic mind tells me anyway). I suppose it depends on what's added on to a stadium and where, how much impact that might have on the neighbours.
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Aug 17, 2017 18:37:51 GMT
Have we started building the new stands yet?  ? |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 17, 2017 19:29:20 GMT
Does the new pasty stand in east terrace count?!
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Post by Curly Wurly on Aug 17, 2017 20:34:58 GMT
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Post by pirate49 on Aug 17, 2017 21:04:47 GMT
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