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Post by lockleazer on Aug 9, 2017 12:02:40 GMT
Where are you ? What's your view of what's going on ? As usual we hear nothing from the very people elected to represent the fans
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 12:04:06 GMT
Who?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 12:17:06 GMT
Hello Gasheads
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Aug 9, 2017 12:46:02 GMT
What's going on? The club has pulled out of a deal to put us on a leasehold again, the very thing that caused our demise in the first place. Wael should be applauded for his actions. There's nothing in his interview that suggests a withdrawel by the family. Quite the opposite in fact. It's going to be interesting to see their plans for the Mem. With the right designers we could be looking at an innovative solution that is unique to Bristol Rovers.
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Post by lockleazer on Aug 9, 2017 13:30:08 GMT
What's going on? The club has pulled out of a deal to put us on a leasehold again, the very thing that caused our demise in the first place. Wael should be applauded for his actions. There's nothing in his interview that suggests a withdrawel by the family. Quite the opposite in fact. It's going to be interesting to see their plans for the Mem. With the right designers we could be looking at an innovative solution that is unique to Bristol Rovers. What's going on ? Conformation bills going unpaid , no news on training ground , no conformation the family are committed to the cause ? No real p!an about the mem , all bones and no meat.... Apathy rules the masses yet again from an interview that told us nothing really apart from contradiction and waffle ... Here's hoping Geoff 20man goes for some real answers ... I've had a reply from BSS suggesting the reps are seeking assurances and have requested a board meeting
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Post by Peter Parker on Aug 9, 2017 13:34:06 GMT
What's going on? The club has pulled out of a deal to put us on a leasehold again, the very thing that caused our demise in the first place. Wael should be applauded for his actions. There's nothing in his interview that suggests a withdrawel by the family. Quite the opposite in fact. It's going to be interesting to see their plans for the Mem. With the right designers we could be looking at an innovative solution that is unique to Bristol Rovers. What's going on ? Conformation bills going unpaid , no news on training ground , no conformation the family are committed to the cause ? No real p!an about the mem , all bones and no meat.... Apathy rules the masses yet again from an interview that told us nothing really apart from contradiction and waffle ... Here's hoping Geoff 20man goes for some real answers ... I've had a reply from BSS suggesting the reps are seeking assurances and have requested a board meeting from the interview though that seems to be down to a dispute rather than anything untoward financially.
If we don't believe a vendor has carried out a service for instance perhaps that is why payment has been withheld
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Post by lockleazer on Aug 9, 2017 13:44:04 GMT
I guess its down to rumours or truth .. The talk i heard was payment was being withheld till the club revived the 1st TV rights payment... Suggest cash flow not disputes were the issue
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Post by trunky on Aug 9, 2017 13:46:35 GMT
What's going on? The club has pulled out of a deal to put us on a leasehold again, the very thing that caused our demise in the first place. Wael should be applauded for his actions. There's nothing in his interview that suggests a withdrawel by the family. Quite the opposite in fact. It's going to be interesting to see their plans for the Mem. With the right designers we could be looking at an innovative solution that is unique to Bristol Rovers. It must be fantastic to live in your world.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 14:01:12 GMT
What's going on ? Conformation bills going unpaid , no news on training ground , no conformation the family are committed to the cause ? No real p!an about the mem , all bones and no meat.... Apathy rules the masses yet again from an interview that told us nothing really apart from contradiction and waffle ... Here's hoping Geoff 20man goes for some real answers ... I've had a reply from BSS suggesting the reps are seeking assurances and have requested a board meeting from the interview though that seems to be down to a dispute rather than anything untoward financially.
If we don't believe a vendor has carried out a service for instance perhaps that is why payment has been withheld
Exactly. 'Some bills haven't been paid' is technically correct, but the inference that some or all bills can't be paid is wrong; some payments are currently suspended pending verification that they're right. That's a world of difference - one's a company with problems, the other is a well-run outfit.
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Post by Peter Parker on Aug 9, 2017 14:06:54 GMT
I guess its down to rumours or truth .. The talk i heard was payment was being withheld till the club revived the 1st TV rights payment... Suggest cash flow not disputes were the issue but is that just a short term cash flow problem. Where I work we defer payments because we prioritise what we have to pay on occasions because we are waiting for debtors to pay us
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Post by lockleazer on Aug 9, 2017 14:15:43 GMT
I guess its down to rumours or truth .. The talk i heard was payment was being withheld till the club revived the 1st TV rights payment... Suggest cash flow not disputes were the issue but is that just a short term cash flow problem. Where I work we defer payments because we prioritise what we have to pay on occasions because we are waiting for debtors to pay us Quite possibly , I just think if its that simple just explain it in the interview .... If Higgs had given those answers in that style he would have been slaughtered ... (He was and rightly so) ... Something just doesn't sit right at this moment ,
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 14:15:53 GMT
I guess its down to rumours or truth .. The talk i heard was payment was being withheld till the club revived the 1st TV rights payment... Suggest cash flow not disputes were the issue I guess it's down to what or who each of us gives most credence to: the guy in the know giving the interview and answering directly, or the talk you heard (God knows where, from whom, and how far down the line of Chinese whispers that was from anyone with direct knowledge).
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Post by Peter Parker on Aug 9, 2017 14:23:54 GMT
I guess its down to rumours or truth .. The talk i heard was payment was being withheld till the club revived the 1st TV rights payment... Suggest cash flow not disputes were the issue I guess it's down to what or who each of us gives most credence to: the guy in the know giving the interview and answering directly, or the talk you heard (God knows where, from whom, and how far down the line of Chinese whispers that was from anyone with direct knowledge). exactly. BRFC still has to operate as a day to day business. Even if there is a £10m credit facility doesn't mean it is there for the company secretary or whomever to dip into to pay the TV bill or whatever.
I very much doubt BRFC has never held back a bill from payment before under previous regimes, it's just never been outed along with other 'bad news' which becomes the Al-Qadi's are conmen
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Post by brizzle on Aug 9, 2017 15:14:48 GMT
I love a bit of intrigue, me. 😅😅😅
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Post by droitwichgas on Aug 9, 2017 19:54:44 GMT
I guess its down to rumours or truth .. The talk i heard was payment was being withheld till the club revived the 1st TV rights payment... Suggest cash flow not disputes were the issue but is that just a short term cash flow problem. Where I work we defer payments because we prioritise what we have to pay on occasions because we are waiting for debtors to pay us LOL if the debt collectors turned up on Saturday afternoon and took the scoreboard somebody on one of the forums would try and put a positive spin on it "we need that space for the new stand" etc. FFS if we can't pay a bill how are we go to self fund a rebuild of the Mem costing £20/30m?
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Post by Peter Parker on Aug 9, 2017 20:02:47 GMT
but is that just a short term cash flow problem. Where I work we defer payments because we prioritise what we have to pay on occasions because we are waiting for debtors to pay us LOL if the debt collectors turned up on Saturday afternoon and took the scoreboard somebody on one of the forums would try and put a positive spin on it "we need that space for the new stand" etc. FFS if we can't pay a bill how are we go to self fund a rebuild of the Mem costing £20/30m? Not sure its a positive spin, just a fact of what companies do sometimes, could be a dispute on services not provided No one knows the facts, but could be a perfectly normal reason why a bill/bills havent been paid. As i say if anyone thinks BRFC has paid every bill on or before the due date youd be mad
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Post by brizzle on Aug 9, 2017 20:12:20 GMT
but is that just a short term cash flow problem. Where I work we defer payments because we prioritise what we have to pay on occasions because we are waiting for debtors to pay us LOL if the debt collectors turned up on Saturday afternoon and took the scoreboard somebody on one of the forums would try and put a positive spin on it "we need that space for the new stand" etc. FFS if we can't pay a bill how are we go to self fund a rebuild of the Mem costing £20/30m? I suppose it all comes down to perception, a glass half full or empty is the obvious analogy. But as I understand the situation it isn't necessarily a case of can't pay, but quite possibly won't pay for whatever reason. As for the funds for the stadium upgrade, the owners have said quite recently that the funds are in place. Perhaps they're mistaken, or it's yet another falsehood designed to mislead the fans. I am just interested to know why they would do such a thing.
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Post by Peter Parker on Aug 9, 2017 20:20:22 GMT
LOL if the debt collectors turned up on Saturday afternoon and took the scoreboard somebody on one of the forums would try and put a positive spin on it "we need that space for the new stand" etc. FFS if we can't pay a bill how are we go to self fund a rebuild of the Mem costing £20/30m? I suppose it all comes down to perception, a glass half full or empty is the obvious analogy. But as I understand the situation it isn't necessarily a case of can't pay, but quite possibly won't pay for whatever reason. As for the funds for the stadium upgrade, the owners have said quite recently that the funds are in place. Perhaps they're mistaken, or it's yet another falsehood designed to mislead the fans. I am just interested to know why they would do such a thing. Well thats yes and no as well. We dont know how or who from funding was acquired for UWE. Could well be that there was/is finance for the UWE project based on the projections. That doesnt mean said investment is there for a Mem project, as it is a whole different thing
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Post by brizzle on Aug 9, 2017 20:28:42 GMT
I suppose it all comes down to perception, a glass half full or empty is the obvious analogy. But as I understand the situation it isn't necessarily a case of can't pay, but quite possibly won't pay for whatever reason. As for the funds for the stadium upgrade, the owners have said quite recently that the funds are in place. Perhaps they're mistaken, or it's yet another falsehood designed to mislead the fans. I am just interested to know why they would do such a thing. Well thats yes and no as well. We dont know how or who from funding was acquired for UWE. Could well be that there was/is finance for the UWE project based on the projections. That doesnt mean said investment is there for a Mem project, as it is a whole different thing You're right, we don't know virtually anything about the whole business. I am pleased and relieved in equal measure that I am a terrace supporter, and not one of the owners. It must be frustrating with complete strangers looking over your shoulder, and second guessing what they expect you to do next.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 20:30:17 GMT
I suppose it all comes down to perception, a glass half full or empty is the obvious analogy. But as I understand the situation it isn't necessarily a case of can't pay, but quite possibly won't pay for whatever reason. As for the funds for the stadium upgrade, the owners have said quite recently that the funds are in place. Perhaps they're mistaken, or it's yet another falsehood designed to mislead the fans. I am just interested to know why they would do such a thing. Well thats yes and no as well. We dont know how or who from funding was acquired for UWE. Could well be that there was/is finance for the UWE project based on the projections. That doesnt mean said investment is there for a Mem project, as it is a whole different thing Or perhaps they have looked at previous plans as well and think there is a better earner there? (pure conjuncture).
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