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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 16:37:01 GMT
Can't argue with that summary. Given your particular circumstance, that is actually very kind of you to say. I feel he was aloof, arrogant and not just out of his depth but so much more. Fair play mate, it takes a big man to be able to say that after what happened I have no respect for him whatsoever. His best was appalling and his honesty questionable. He deliberately mislead me regarding my situation and was quite happy to blame others. He did lead me down the garden path as to who was responsible for my ban and I have respect for Geoff Dunford for resigning his position despite our previous disagreements. I do appreciate that you had a couple of run ins with Geoff.
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 15, 2017 16:59:29 GMT
Given your particular circumstance, that is actually very kind of you to say. I feel he was aloof, arrogant and not just out of his depth but so much more. Fair play mate, it takes a big man to be able to say that after what happened I have no respect for him whatsoever. His best was appalling and his honesty questionable. He deliberately mislead me regarding my situation and was quite happy to blame others. He did lead me down the garden path as to who was responsible for my ban and I have respect for Geoff Dunford for resigning his position despite our previous disagreements. I do appreciate that you had a couple of run ins with Geoff. Thank you, that means a lot. Sophie played her part too but nothing to do with photos and done face to face. Thanks for clearing up the situation with Geoff too as I did wonder why he was suddenly being supported by a few, for the presidents role. I now understand more clearly My only redeeming point in this was that i didn't pay to watch any of the games I went to as let's just say a friend of yours made sure that I got in
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 17:42:14 GMT
This will sound cold but did anyone care about us when we went NL ? Not really, many laughed. I ain't gonna pretend I care about a club I know nothing about and who have been rather cocky in the last. I don't think many of our supporters actively protested about how badly our club was being run unlike the mass reaction at Leyton Orient and particularly Blackpool. The problem was man hours and organisation. It's all well and good meeting up for a beer and a gripe in a tent behind the Welly, but to actually get anything done requires a massive amount of effort, and a fair number of talented people. From what I saw, we had people who wanted to shout from the floor, fair enough, we had a couple who wanted to sit at the top table, the only thing missing was the thousands of man hours behind the scenes to make the thing work. Running onto the pitch at Orient will change nothing. Sat behind all of this, the EFL have their 'Fit and proper persons' test, but in light of what's happening at Orient you have to wonder if that needs looking at again and whether it's right that the governing body just sit back and allow a club to disintegrate before their eyes?
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Post by bloogas on May 15, 2017 17:55:32 GMT
If nothing else, for the arrogance of saying that getting the club into the League was 'inevitable'. Not sure if the 4th tier version of FFP kicks in during the first season, but as soon as it does, unless he can drum up some support from somewhere, they have a problem Has anyone local even noticed? And that's when they are winning most weeks. Bearing in mind as well of course that - & I believe I'm right - much of Vince's money has come from EU handouts. Subsidies. Not sustainable.
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Post by Colyton Gas. on May 18, 2017 20:40:08 GMT
With my Carlisle mates at Exeter.Just equalised last minute.!!!!!!!!! Seems we finished months ago.Away end here worse than ours!!!!!!!!!!!!
Exeter just scored in the 95 th minute.Will it be Exeter or Luton for us next season??
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2017 20:53:46 GMT
With my Carlisle mates at Exeter.Just equalised last minute.!!!!!!!!! Seems we finished months ago.Away end here worse than ours!!!!!!!!!!!! Exeter just scored in the 95 th minute.Will it be Exeter or Luton for us next season?? Blackpool won 6 5 on agg
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Post by Colyton Gas. on May 18, 2017 21:08:35 GMT
With my Carlisle mates at Exeter.Just equalised last minute.!!!!!!!!! Seems we finished months ago.Away end here worse than ours!!!!!!!!!!!! Exeter just scored in the 95 th minute.Will it be Exeter or Luton for us next season?? Blackpool won 6 5 on agg Wow.Fond memories of winning at Blackpool to win promotion.Since then they went to the Prem and down to the Div 2.Feel sorry for Keith Curle.Staying the night down here.Amazing how these clubs are still playing and we seemed to have finished yonks ago.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2017 23:03:20 GMT
With my Carlisle mates at Exeter.Just equalised last minute.!!!!!!!!! Seems we finished months ago.Away end here worse than ours!!!!!!!!!!!! Exeter just scored in the 95 th minute.Will it be Exeter or Luton for us next season?? That will be the last time you stand there. Redevelopment of two sides start next week and reduced visitor capacity next season.
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Post by Alveston Gas on May 19, 2017 7:14:58 GMT
I was at Exeter too, thought Carlise very poor & wonder if Exeter will cope at a higher once they loose Watkins & possibly Wheeler.
Sad to see the old main stand & away end go but the place really does need sorting out on those 2 sides but not much space due to the roads and railway line.
Carlisle who are a well supported side took less to Devon that Exeter took to Cumbria Sunday for a 6.30ko.
The passion of our lower leagues is amazing and the volunteer work ethic at ECFC superb, they do remind me a bit of Gasheads but perhaps a little less intense.
Hope ECFC make in at Wembley & that somehow we can get a Watkins or Wheeler.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 12:47:19 GMT
I was at Exeter too, thought Carlise very poor & wonder if Exeter will cope at a higher once they loose Watkins & possibly Wheeler. Sad to see the old main stand & away end go but the place really does need sorting out on those 2 sides but not much space due to the roads and railway line. Carlisle who are a well supported side took less to Devon that Exeter took to Cumbria Sunday for a 6.30ko. The passion of our lower leagues is amazing and the volunteer work ethic at ECFC superb, they do remind me a bit of Gasheads but perhaps a little less intense. Hope ECFC make in at Wembley & that somehow we can get a Watkins or Wheeler. Rumours are that Watkins is a done deal to Southampton for £2m. There is space in front of the away terrace to expand the depth of terrace after they moved the pitch 6mts a couple of seasons ago ready for the works. Don't expect too much from the works at that end as they had a limited budget for it. The new stand on the side is being funded by the sale of land for student accommodation behind the Big Bank. That was the poorest I had seen Carlisle in 3 games this season. I think their fitness levels and injuries caught up with them but they certainly give 100% for Keith Curle.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 13:25:24 GMT
I was in the away end last night, lots of broken souls when Exeter got their third. My 100th and probably best game of the season (for drama anyway). Not too worried about Exeter tbh.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 13:52:32 GMT
I was in the away end last night, lots of broken souls when Exeter got their third. My 100th and probably best game of the season (for drama anyway). Not too worried about Exeter tbh. Great picture. Two great ends to the play off games. Shame that selfish morons can't be trusted to behave or we could do without having to have stewards sat there watching us like naughty children and then standing up and moving towards us every time a goal is scored. That stuff ought to be consigned to history, the only way it'll happen is with proper punishments for offenders. And that would include 'high spirits', so the idiots who rushed on and joined in the mass pile of players at the Daggers game, banned for life. If they knew that's what would happen they wouldn't have done it.
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Post by dido on May 19, 2017 13:58:47 GMT
Chewby. 100 games in 1 season. Wow!! (You'd think you'd understand more about football), innit.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 14:03:02 GMT
Chewby. 100 games in 1 season. Wow!! (You'd think you'd understand more about football), innit. 7 seasons on the trot I've managed 100+ now.
Not again though, that's me done. Quality of quantity next season to save some ££.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 16:37:07 GMT
Wow.Fond memories of winning at Blackpool to win promotion.Since then they went to the Prem and down to the Div 2.Feel sorry for Keith Curle.Staying the night down here.Amazing how these clubs are still playing and we seemed to have finished yonks ago. Had a great weekend in Blackpool, but we had already won promotion,clinched the title though
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2017 17:19:58 GMT
And yet again the thugs from Millwall can't behave like civilised people.
Won't stay in their allocated area then invade the pitch.
But of course, the apologists are already talking about how it was only a 'minority', problem is, certain clubs always have these problems, and everybody knows that they'll be doing it again next season, and the one after.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on May 20, 2017 18:25:56 GMT
And yet again the thugs from Millwall can't behave like civilised people. Won't stay in their allocated area then invade the pitch. But of course, the apologists are already talking about how it was only a 'minority', problem is, certain clubs always have these problems, and everybody knows that they'll be doing it again next season, and the one after. That's a fair enough opinion (even though today it appeared to be over exuberance as opposed to malicious) but to save yourself from hypocrisy, you must equally condemn the thousands that were on the pitch post Daggers?
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Post by kellyoreed on May 20, 2017 18:43:16 GMT
And yet again the thugs from Millwall can't behave like civilised people. Won't stay in their allocated area then invade the pitch. But of course, the apologists are already talking about how it was only a 'minority', problem is, certain clubs always have these problems, and everybody knows that they'll be doing it again next season, and the one after. That's a fair enough opinion (even though today it appeared to be over exuberance as opposed to malicious) but to save yourself from hypocrisy, you must equally condemn the thousands that were on the pitch post Daggers? I didn't agree with those on the pitch while we were still playing at the Dagenham match, but once we knew the season was over it was less of an issue for me. The difference today was that there are still games left to play on that pitch, and they didn't care. Only interested in being able to say they ran on the pitch at Wembley. It was just selfish and ignorant. As it's never happened before in my memory it goes to show that they rest of the teams who play in this country agree. It's just not done at Wembley! It would be like invading the court at Wimbledon!
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Post by Colyton Gas. on May 20, 2017 18:59:00 GMT
At the Ricoh one of the Ray Winstone look-alike brigade -well into their 50's- stood somewhat inebriated in the gangway and was asked politely by a lady steward to take his seat.He began ranting just as the teams were about to k.o. that if he couldn't stand where he wanted he'd take the steward to the European Court of Human Right.Two minutes later the boys in blue escorted him to a seat away from the other Ray Winstones. Total embarrassment these Guys who came in to the Walsall,Port Vale and Shrewsbury games at 5 to 3 totally pissed with no interest in the match with no respect for the other genuine fans including ladies and kids.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on May 20, 2017 19:16:22 GMT
That's a fair enough opinion (even though today it appeared to be over exuberance as opposed to malicious) but to save yourself from hypocrisy, you must equally condemn the thousands that were on the pitch post Daggers? I didn't agree with those on the pitch while we were still playing at the Dagenham match, but once we knew the season was over it was less of an issue for me. The difference today was that there are still games left to play on that pitch, and they didn't care. Only interested in being able to say they ran on the pitch at Wembley. It was just selfish and ignorant. As it's never happened before in my memory it goes to show that they rest of the teams who play in this country agree. It's just not done at Wembley! It would be like invading the court at Wimbledon! I take your point with other games needed to play, but I don't think that was the thrust of what Bambi was trying to say. Today wasn't motivated by violence. As for invading Wembley, not in league matches maybe, but one of the most iconic commentary lines was taken from a pitch invasion of the hallowed turf! No one seemed to complain about that..
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