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Post by fatherjackhackett on May 15, 2017 9:38:34 GMT
I like Nailsworth as a place. I used to like the idea that little Forest Green did well. I'm generally favourable towards greenery. I have no problem with vegetarianism. Sadly, though, I think the current incarnation of that football club is a bad thing. I wish them a speedy implosion. I agree 100%. If you want a proper football experience in Nailsworth go to Shortwood Utd. Black Rat on tap and you can drink while the game is on.
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Post by nit3owl64 on May 15, 2017 9:54:29 GMT
Hulk Hogan was at Blackpool
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Post by eppinggas on May 15, 2017 13:40:37 GMT
Mate of mine is an Orient fan and went up to see their last game in the football league (for 1 year at least, possibly ever) up at Blackpool. Even though Blackpool needed a win to make the play-offs - their supporters mass boycotted it. More Orient than Blackpool in a crowd of (allegedly) 3602. In the 'worst run football Club competition' there are some very strong contenders this year. Blackburn, Charlton, Coventry, Blackpool, Orient etc etc. You would have to give it to Orient though. If Becchetti is still there next season - Orient will boycott and home support will go below 1000.
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 15, 2017 14:05:49 GMT
If you want a proper football experience in Nailsworth go to Shortwood Utd. Black Rat on tap and you can drink while the game is on. Jeez Louise. Last time I had a Black Rat experience I regretted it and for a long time. I get greedy with cider. I am far too old to have teenagers cider greed
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 15, 2017 14:08:23 GMT
Mate of mine is an Orient fan and went up to see their last game in the football league (for 1 year at least, possibly ever) up at Blackpool. Even though Blackpool needed a win to make the play-offs - their supporters mass boycotted it. More Orient than Blackpool in a crowd of (allegedly) 3602. In the 'worst run football Club competition' there are some very strong contenders this year. Blackburn, Charlton, Coventry, Blackpool, Orient etc etc. You would have to give it to Orient though. If Becchetti is still there next season - Orient will boycott and home support will go below 1000. This will sound cold but did anyone care about us when we went NL ? Not really, many laughed. I ain't gonna pretend I care about a club I know nothing about and who have been rather cocky in the past, EDIT. Under Hearn
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 14:27:23 GMT
Mate of mine is an Orient fan and went up to see their last game in the football league (for 1 year at least, possibly ever) up at Blackpool. Even though Blackpool needed a win to make the play-offs - their supporters mass boycotted it. More Orient than Blackpool in a crowd of (allegedly) 3602. In the 'worst run football Club competition' there are some very strong contenders this year. Blackburn, Charlton, Coventry, Blackpool, Orient etc etc. You would have to give it to Orient though. If Becchetti is still there next season - Orient will boycott and home support will go below 1000. This will sound cold but did anyone care about us when we went NL ? Not really, many laughed. I ain't gonna pretend I care about a club I know nothing about and who have been rather cocky in the last. I don't think many of our supporters actively protested about how badly our club was being run unlike the mass reaction at Leyton Orient and particularly Blackpool.
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Post by eppinggas on May 15, 2017 14:31:40 GMT
Nick Higgs did his best, but was just out of his depth. Francesco Becchetti at Orient takes running a football club into the ground to a whole new level. See my posts under General Chat / Leyton Orient. Becchetti could have bought us. It could have happened.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 14:32:00 GMT
Mate of mine is an Orient fan and went up to see their last game in the football league (for 1 year at least, possibly ever) up at Blackpool. Even though Blackpool needed a win to make the play-offs - their supporters mass boycotted it. More Orient than Blackpool in a crowd of (allegedly) 3602. In the 'worst run football Club competition' there are some very strong contenders this year. Blackburn, Charlton, Coventry, Blackpool, Orient etc etc. You would have to give it to Orient though. If Becchetti is still there next season - Orient will boycott and home support will go below 1000. This will sound cold but did anyone care about us when we went NL ? Not really, many laughed. I ain't gonna pretend I care about a club I know nothing about and who have been rather cocky in the last. I don't think it's a question of going NL. Higgs & co were inept, incapable, aloof, defensive, and all manner of other disappointments, but they meant well. Bechetti is something altogether different - he's bought a club and ruined it at break-neck speed. [The Oystons are a different kettle of fish]. That's why I feel for Orient fans (one of whom is a friend of mine, to declare an interest). In a sense, and not to self-flagellate too much in public, I think we had it coming - they didn't. We were on a slow demise, they're on the fast track to destruction. Oh, and Orient have never struck me as cocky - quite the opposite in the shadow of WHU, the Arse, and Tottenham. I guess it's all about opinions.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 14:36:01 GMT
Nick Higgs did his best, but was just out of his depth. Francesco Becchetti at Orient takes running a football club into the ground to a whole new level. See my posts under General Chat / Leyton Orient. Becchetti could have bought us. It could have happened. Can't argue with that summary.
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Post by eppinggas on May 15, 2017 14:40:05 GMT
Mate of mine is an Orient fan and went up to see their last game in the football league (for 1 year at least, possibly ever) up at Blackpool. Even though Blackpool needed a win to make the play-offs - their supporters mass boycotted it. More Orient than Blackpool in a crowd of (allegedly) 3602. In the 'worst run football Club competition' there are some very strong contenders this year. Blackburn, Charlton, Coventry, Blackpool, Orient etc etc. You would have to give it to Orient though. If Becchetti is still there next season - Orient will boycott and home support will go below 1000. This will sound cold but did anyone care about us when we went NL ? Not really, many laughed. I ain't gonna pretend I care about a club I know nothing about and who have been rather cocky in the last. When we went down I thought we got a lot of support and sympathy from the general footballing fraternity. I imagine the only people who laughed were some of the lesser brained 6 fingered in-breds south of the river. Even some 82ers that I know thought it was a shame. I'm really not so sure I would have been so magnanimous if the boot was on the other foot. Orient - cocky? No, I'm not having that. Or did you mean Cockney?
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Post by Igitur on May 15, 2017 14:49:21 GMT
This will sound cold but did anyone care about us when we went NL ? Not really, many laughed. I ain't gonna pretend I care about a club I know nothing about and who have been rather cocky in the last. I don't think many of our supporters actively protested about how badly our club was being run unlike the mass reaction at Leyton Orient and particularly Blackpool. There were the Welly 3 (BRISA having disappeared by then) and also a couple of meetings at The Sportsman about starting a trust, which on reflection was not going anywhere from the start. It's well known that our fans are amiable, apathetic and loyal, but things had not quite reached the tipping point, though NH's court cases and Wonga loans took us very very close; NH was looking for a buyer, but promotion and thankfully Wael happened.
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Post by eppinggas on May 15, 2017 15:02:12 GMT
I've posed this question before. Hypothetically - would Nick Higgs have sold to "a Becchetti" if Wael Al-Qadi hadn't appeared? I'd like to think the answer is "no". But if that was the only bid in town, and we were surviving on loans from a payday lender, had High Court Bills to pay, and we were losing £500k a season... Doesn't bare thinking about. That is why all fans should care about what happens to Orient, Coventry, Blackpool et al.
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Post by irishrover on May 15, 2017 15:13:12 GMT
Less than 4000 at Blackpool. What's that all about? Most of them were from Luton. Massive solidarity from the Blackpool fans. I was talking to a group of them recently and they only go to away games now. I think this is great from Blackpool fans. I had heard that quite a few of them were going to watch AFC Fylde instead (who will in the Conference next year having won the Conference North pretty handily last season) but I don't know if that is actually true - after all Fylde are a bit problematic too. Not particularly well liked in non-league circles.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 15:18:41 GMT
Most of them were from Luton. Massive solidarity from the Blackpool fans. I was talking to a group of them recently and they only go to away games now. I think this is great from Blackpool fans. I had heard that quite a few of them were going to watch AFC Fylde instead (who will in the Conference next year having won the Conference North pretty handily last season) but I don't know if that is actually true - after all Fylde are a bit problematic too. Not particularly well liked in non-league circles. A friend of mine who was a lifelong Blackpool season ticket holder suggested that he might follow AFC Fylde but was wrestling with his conscience the last time we spoke. It's sad as well as immoral what has happened at Blackpool and I don't think the Oystens will back down. Promotion will assist their aim of defeating the protest so for that reason I hope they stay in League 2 next season.
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Post by irishrover on May 15, 2017 15:20:35 GMT
If nothing else, for the arrogance of saying that getting the club into the League was 'inevitable'. Not sure if the 4th tier version of FFP kicks in during the first season, but as soon as it does, unless he can drum up some support from somewhere, they have a problem Has anyone local even noticed? And that's when they are winning most weeks. I have to admit I've kind of missed this development not being South West based anymore. Have they now gone from being a bit annoying to beneath contempt? If so, what is their particular list of crimes? I hold no specific candle for FGR but I did used to go and watch them occasionally as a non-Gas alternative when they first moved into the New Lawn - quite liked the experience. Seems everyone has now decided they are 'a bad thing' and I'm sure there's good wisdom in that but apart from their owner being a bit of a self-promoting windbag it's not immediately obvious from what I hear of them up here (which admittedly is not very much) why that would be the case.
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Post by irishrover on May 15, 2017 15:23:11 GMT
I think this is great from Blackpool fans. I had heard that quite a few of them were going to watch AFC Fylde instead (who will in the Conference next year having won the Conference North pretty handily last season) but I don't know if that is actually true - after all Fylde are a bit problematic too. Not particularly well liked in non-league circles. A friend of mine who was a lifelong Blackpool season ticket holder suggested that he might follow AFC Fylde but was wrestling with his conscience the last time we spoke. It's sad as well as immoral what has happened at Blackpool and I don't think the Oystens will back down. Promotion will assist their aim of defeating the protest so for that reason I hope they stay in League 2 next season. I'm massively conflicted - they're one of only 3 clubs I need to visit to complete the football league set in Lancashire (I know it doesn't exactly make me Chewie or Rex in the ground department but it would keep me happy....) but I couldn't bring myself to go there I don't think even if they went up.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 15:36:47 GMT
I don't think many of our supporters actively protested about how badly our club was being run unlike the mass reaction at Leyton Orient and particularly Blackpool. There were the Welly 3 (BRISA having disappeared by then) and also a couple of meetings at The Sportsman about starting a trust, which on reflection was not going anywhere from the start. It's well known that our fans are amiable, apathetic and loyal, but things had not quite reached the tipping point, though NH's court cases and Wonga loans took us very very close; NH was looking for a buyer, but promotion and thankfully Wael happened. I probably shouldn't go here, but... One thing Geoff Dunford was very good at (and Nick Higgs preserved) was building a praetorian guard around himself, a clique of the in-crowd, that would spit out and demonise anyone questioning things: with their mantras of 'If it wasn't for the Dunfords' and 'Now is not the time', people with oomph were left saying (since it was bad but not at breaking point) 'stuff this for a game of soldiers' and leaving them to it. I don't think the Oystons have bothered with that - they've never been popular, but increasing on-field success, as they got worse, bought them grudging acceptance (for a time), and Bechetti certainly hasn't got it. The line between 'them' and 'us' is drawn in a different and much clearer place at those two than it ever was with us. Even our grassroots crowd-funding element was state-sponsored and controlled. Good luck to both sets of fans. I particularly admire Blackpool fans for holding firm with the play-offs.
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 15, 2017 15:40:48 GMT
This will sound cold but did anyone care about us when we went NL ? Not really, many laughed. I ain't gonna pretend I care about a club I know nothing about and who have been rather cocky in the last. I don't think many of our supporters actively protested about how badly our club was being run unlike the mass reaction at Leyton Orient and particularly Blackpool. The trouble was those that did take to writing and trying to make their protest heard, were often lambasted on either forum as good old Nick is a gashead. I really did try to stay away fella but it was the only time I get to see a particular and much loved friend. I feel ashamed I broke and proud of those who did stay away. We do have, even now, a fractured fan base & it's why I came off of all Rovers twofacedbook pages. I guess illness can make me overly sensitive to boot. I do wish I could have done more. It does bother me in honesty
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 15, 2017 15:43:57 GMT
Nick Higgs did his best, but was just out of his depth. Francesco Becchetti at Orient takes running a football club into the ground to a whole new level. See my posts under General Chat / Leyton Orient. Becchetti could have bought us. It could have happened. Can't argue with that summary. Given your particular circumstance, that is actually very kind of you to say. I feel he was aloof, arrogant and not just out of his depth but so much more. Fair play mate, it takes a big man to be able to say that after what happened
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