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Post by Colyton Gas. on May 3, 2017 15:17:14 GMT
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Post by Alveston Gas on May 3, 2017 15:49:52 GMT
Yes a good lad, seems to have to use an asthma puffer before and during games & with the nut allergy he suffered at Bury it must be tricky being a pro footballer with those conditions to contend with. Well done to him for overcoming them and being a consistently decent back up player.
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Post by bloogas on May 3, 2017 18:13:25 GMT
Yes a good lad, seems to have to use an asthma puffer before and during games & with the nut allergy he suffered at Bury it must be tricky being a pro footballer with those conditions to contend with. Well done to him for overcoming them and being a consistently decent back up player. Gary Mabbutt managed being diabetic OK.
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Post by irishrover on May 3, 2017 18:38:37 GMT
Yes a good lad, seems to have to use an asthma puffer before and during games & with the nut allergy he suffered at Bury it must be tricky being a pro footballer with those conditions to contend with. Well done to him for overcoming them and being a consistently decent back up player. Gary Mabbutt managed being diabetic OK. No he didn't - he found it very difficult. Several times he has stated that it almost lead him to retire from the game.
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Post by a more piratey game on May 3, 2017 18:40:16 GMT
I'm pleased about this
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 19:36:38 GMT
Gary Mabbutt managed being diabetic OK. No he didn't - he found it very difficult. Several times he has stated that it almost lead him to retire from the game. I take your point Irish. But he managed a lot more than most professional footballers. I don't think bloogas was saying it was easy for Gary Mabbutt, just what he managed. Type I diabetes (constantly dependent on insulin injections) must be a nightmare. But I took bloogas as saying Gary Mabbutt managed to achieve lots in football despite it. It's worth reminding us youngsters (?) just what a career this diabetic Bristolian managed: Years | Team | Apps | Goals | 1979-1982 | Bristol Rovers | 131 | 10 | 1982-1998 | Tottenham Hotspur | 477 | 27 | 1982-1992 | England | 16 | 1 |
According to Wikipedia. Not bad like.
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Post by a more piratey game on May 3, 2017 20:43:02 GMT
No he didn't - he found it very difficult. Several times he has stated that it almost lead him to retire from the game. I take your point Irish. But he managed a lot more than most professional footballers. I don't think bloogas was saying it was easy for Gary Mabbutt, just what he managed. Type I diabetes (constantly dependent on insulin injections) must be a nightmare. But I took bloogas as saying Gary Mabbutt managed to achieve lots in football despite it. It's worth reminding us youngsters (?) just what a career this diabetic Bristolian managed: Years | Team | Apps | Goals | 1979-1982 | Bristol Rovers | 131 | 10 | 1982-1998 | Tottenham Hotspur | 477 | 27 | 1982-1992 | England | 16 | 1 |
According to Wikipedia. Not bad like. not just what he achieved, but the way he went about it. England captain on occasion too, wasn't he?
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Post by irishrover on May 3, 2017 22:11:49 GMT
No he didn't - he found it very difficult. Several times he has stated that it almost lead him to retire from the game. I take your point Irish. But he managed a lot more than most professional footballers. I don't think bloogas was saying it was easy for Gary Mabbutt, just what he managed. Type I diabetes (constantly dependent on insulin injections) must be a nightmare. But I took bloogas as saying Gary Mabbutt managed to achieve lots in football despite it. It's worth reminding us youngsters (?) just what a career this diabetic Bristolian managed: Years | Team | Apps | Goals | 1979-1982 | Bristol Rovers | 131 | 10 | 1982-1998 | Tottenham Hotspur | 477 | 27 | 1982-1992 | England | 16 | 1 |
According to Wikipedia. Not bad like. Point taken but I think I interpreted the comment differently - I thought it was a kind of 'suck it up and get on with it' kind of comment which isn't really what Mabbutt was about. He was very open about how challenging it was to play with the condition and it was quite a refreshing attitude.
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Post by bloogas on May 4, 2017 7:16:55 GMT
I take your point Irish. But he managed a lot more than most professional footballers. I don't think bloogas was saying it was easy for Gary Mabbutt, just what he managed. Type I diabetes (constantly dependent on insulin injections) must be a nightmare. But I took bloogas as saying Gary Mabbutt managed to achieve lots in football despite it. It's worth reminding us youngsters (?) just what a career this diabetic Bristolian managed: Years | Team | Apps | Goals | 1979-1982 | Bristol Rovers | 131 | 10 | 1982-1998 | Tottenham Hotspur | 477 | 27 | 1982-1992 | England | 16 | 1 |
According to Wikipedia. Not bad like. Point taken but I think I interpreted the comment differently - I thought it was a kind of 'suck it up and get on with it' kind of comment which isn't really what Mabbutt was about. He was very open about how challenging it was to play with the condition and it was quite a refreshing attitude. Apologies guys. My comment,to be honest,was made without any real thought. Simply that JC isn't the first & that GM is a shining example of what can be achieved.I noticed JC using a puffer a while ago & have assumed that his ailment has blighted his career. Full marks to DC for giving him a chance. Not a flashy player but calm & assured. Maybe his situation might make others in the dressing room to count their blessings.
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Post by c13 on May 4, 2017 10:48:51 GMT
This upcoming season should be the last for James, because he IS reaching his limit, but right now there's many reasons to keep him.
He's versatile. He's regular, hardly does a Clarke-Salter and becomes the talk of the fans after a game. He's been with us for a while, knows the system and the club, and team chemistry + leadership were the MAIN ingredients behind our back-to-back promotions. He's one of the squad's many leaders, has a quietly strong presence.
I'm happy to have him onboard for 2017-18.
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Post by GasMacc1 on May 4, 2017 15:49:59 GMT
This upcoming season should be the last for James, because he IS reaching his limit, but right now there's many reasons to keep him. He's versatile. He's regular, hardly does a Clarke-Salter and becomes the talk of the fans after a game. He's been with us for a while, knows the system and the club, and team chemistry + leadership were the MAIN ingredients behind our back-to-back promotions. He's one of the squad's many leaders, has a quietly strong presence. I'm happy to have him onboard for 2017-18. I, too, am glad James Clarke will be with us next season. Another point to add to your list: He's prepared to be a bit naughty when it helps the team.
If I can explain myself...I think that many of the teams in League One in the season just finished (including four* of the top six, in my opinion) play "on the edge of the free kick". They're physical. They waste no opportunity to leave something on the opponent in many challenges. (Conversely, they also tend to whinge massively when an opponent comes anywhere near them). Again, in my opinion, Rovers haven't played that way, but might need to be more aggressive as part of the strategy to finish even higher up the table. JC fits the bill! * Bolton, Scunthorpe, Millwall and (to a slightly lesser extent) Fleetwood.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 15:53:05 GMT
This upcoming season should be the last for James, because he IS reaching his limit, but right now there's many reasons to keep him. You probably said the same about Ollie Clarke this time last year.
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Post by c13 on May 4, 2017 18:17:59 GMT
This upcoming season should be the last for James, because he IS reaching his limit, but right now there's many reasons to keep him. You probably said the same about Ollie Clarke this time last year. I actually didn't. But to your point, if James proves me wrong I'll gladly eat my words
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on May 5, 2017 9:27:58 GMT
This upcoming season should be the last for James, because he IS reaching his limit, but right now there's many reasons to keep him. He's versatile. He's regular, hardly does a Clarke-Salter and becomes the talk of the fans after a game. He's been with us for a while, knows the system and the club, and team chemistry + leadership were the MAIN ingredients behind our back-to-back promotions. He's one of the squad's many leaders, has a quietly strong presence. I'm happy to have him onboard for 2017-18. I agree!
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 15, 2017 16:21:09 GMT
Yes a good lad, seems to have to use an asthma puffer before and during games & with the nut allergy he suffered at Bury it must be tricky being a pro footballer with those conditions to contend with. Well done to him for overcoming them and being a consistently decent back up player. We had Gary Mabbutt who has diabetes and who was obviously suffering a hypo when being interviewed prior to the FA cup game. Poor bloke couldn't hold his microphone without badly shaking. Darren Fletcher has resumed playing after having the big op for ulcerative colitis, although not Rovers related, I can tell you that is a massive thing I I salute the man. When I was 1st diagnosed with IBD I didn't realise just how bad it can be. I still have many days where all I can do is lay on my bed and no more. Makes what these players go through even more heroic, at least in my eyes
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 15, 2017 16:29:01 GMT
This upcoming season should be the last for James, because he IS reaching his limit, but right now there's many reasons to keep him. He's versatile. He's regular, hardly does a Clarke-Salter and becomes the talk of the fans after a game. He's been with us for a while, knows the system and the club, and team chemistry + leadership were the MAIN ingredients behind our back-to-back promotions. He's one of the squad's many leaders, has a quietly strong presence. I'm happy to have him onboard for 2017-18. That's some statement there c13. The upcoming season should be the last for James. Wow. Ever considered he and his condition clukd improve ? There are many sportsmen & women who have gone on and improved and one example of a guy who even improved when he got a second health problem is Steve Redgrave. Diabetes AND ulcerative colitis. Never underestimate the indomitable spirit in human mind, well.... at least some. There is evidence that with diabetes in particular, exercise can improve lung function
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Post by shakes on May 16, 2017 21:21:57 GMT
Leon Britton and Sam Clucas have been with clubs who've gained promotions yet adjusted each time to the new standard of football.
Making statements on a players future on a public forum just shows how times and etiquette has changed.
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Post by c13 on May 17, 2017 8:25:44 GMT
This upcoming season should be the last for James, because he IS reaching his limit, but right now there's many reasons to keep him. He's versatile. He's regular, hardly does a Clarke-Salter and becomes the talk of the fans after a game. He's been with us for a while, knows the system and the club, and team chemistry + leadership were the MAIN ingredients behind our back-to-back promotions. He's one of the squad's many leaders, has a quietly strong presence. I'm happy to have him onboard for 2017-18. That's some statement there c13. The upcoming season should be the last for James. Wow. Ever considered he and his condition clukd improve ? There are many sportsmen & women who have gone on and improved and one example of a guy who even improved when he got a second health problem is Steve Redgrave. Diabetes AND ulcerative colitis. Never underestimate the indomitable spirit in human mind, well.... at least some. There is evidence that with diabetes in particular, exercise can improve lung function Again: I'll be more than glad to eat my words should he improve. I just feel, after all this time watching him, that he's at his peak and should be allowed to go while he's still on top. That's only my opinion and hardly a strong one, because, like I said, there's a number of reasons to like the guy. Not like I said I was against him staying, I just feel (feel, not know) he's nearing his limit in footballing ability. That's all. I didn't even take his condition into the equation because he's been playing through it very well and is that much of a professional to overcome such obstacles. This was never a dig at his condition. I'm sorry if you thought otherwise.
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Post by c13 on May 17, 2017 8:34:15 GMT
Leon Britton and Sam Clucas have been with clubs who've gained promotions yet adjusted each time to the new standard of football. Making statements on a players future on a public forum just shows how times and etiquette has changed. You seem to be under the impression that I don't want James here or never liked him, no matter in how many different ways I word my statement. Fine. I'm not here to teach English. But if we can't give a half-serious opinion on a player's future during offseason on this public forum, what is it for? "Would you have him back" threads? I love our squad and the overperforming of players since Conference days has been mostly due to team spirit and morale, I get that; but we can't just pretend our players don't have an "expiry date" if you will, and I'm only saying I THINK James is close to hitting his. That doesn't mean I don't care about all that he did for us and all he won with us. He was one of my top 3 players of the year during the L2 promotion season. I'm also very open and hopeful to be wrong. That is all. Jeez. What's all this about "etiquette"?
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 19, 2017 19:49:26 GMT
That's some statement there c13 . The upcoming season should be the last for James. Wow. Ever considered he and his condition clukd improve ? There are many sportsmen & women who have gone on and improved and one example of a guy who even improved when he got a second health problem is Steve Redgrave. Diabetes AND ulcerative colitis. Never underestimate the indomitable spirit in human mind, well.... at least some. There is evidence that with diabetes in particular, exercise can improve lung function Again: I'll be more than glad to eat my words should he improve. I just feel, after all this time watching him, that he's at his peak and should be allowed to go while he's still on top. That's only my opinion and hardly a strong one, because, like I said, there's a number of reasons to like the guy. Not like I said I was against him staying, I just feel (feel, not know) he's nearing his limit in footballing ability. That's all. I didn't even take his condition into the equation because he's been playing through it very well and is that much of a professional to overcome such obstacles. This was never a dig at his condition. I'm sorry if you thought otherwise. No need to apologise. I'm more sensitive to stuff like this due to my own battles. It's a forum after all and only opinions
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