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Post by laughinggas on Apr 18, 2017 19:04:05 GMT
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Post by laughinggas on Apr 18, 2017 19:05:37 GMT
Expecting a wisecracking comment about misses from strikers skewing the figures
But can only work with stats available
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 19:30:32 GMT
I reckon (based on nothing more than observation, regular highlights watching and my imagination) that we score relatively few first-time finishes by strikers in the box.
Harrison showed against Northampton what he can do when he's "fed", so there might be something in the idea we don't create enough chances for our forwards.
Its a wonder we score as many as we do really.
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Post by laughinggas on Apr 18, 2017 19:56:25 GMT
Also interesting that Leads cannot cross, or so I read!
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Post by a more piratey game on Apr 18, 2017 19:57:44 GMT
if only you'd posted this over the weekend when it would have been seasonal
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Post by stig-of-the-gas on Apr 18, 2017 20:13:00 GMT
Also interesting that Leads cannot cross, or so I read! I'm not sure 4 assists in a whole season proves he can cross to be honest. More worryingly, our three wingers, Bodin, Moore and Montano have one assist each. I'm not sure I believe those stats but if true it's no wonder we have struggled to store goals. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 1:52:48 GMT
I was brought up on appearances goals so all the assist stuff is total rubbish to me,its a team game and the teams that win most win leagues simple as that.
Danny leadbitter is often slated for his erratic crossing but strangely when he hits a good one its often very low and at pace and easy to attack so its not all bad on crosses with danny imo.
Im sure others are into miles ran and assists and of course some clubs are using this data but i think its crap.
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Post by Peter Parker on Apr 19, 2017 5:01:06 GMT
Also interesting that Leads cannot cross, or so I read! I'm not sure 4 assists in a whole season proves he can cross to be honest. More worryingly, our three wingers, Bodin, Moore and Montano have one assist each. I'm not sure I believe those stats but if true it's no wonder we have struggled to store goals. Well i guess Bodin made mosf of his own goals |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 19, 2017 9:15:35 GMT
Everything alive comes from an egg or single cell, even microscopic life, so my answer is
EGG!
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Post by a more piratey game on Apr 19, 2017 9:23:52 GMT
I was brought up on appearances goals so all the assist stuff is total rubbish to me,its a team game and the teams that win most win leagues simple as that. Danny leadbitter is often slated for his erratic crossing but strangely when he hits a good one its often very low and at pace and easy to attack so its not all bad on crosses with danny imo. Im sure others are into miles ran and assists and of course some clubs are using this data but i think its crap. well that's put our analyst blokie out of a job then
I thought he was part of our L1 'competitive edge'
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 9:28:54 GMT
I was brought up on appearances goals so all the assist stuff is total rubbish to me,its a team game and the teams that win most win leagues simple as that. Danny leadbitter is often slated for his erratic crossing but strangely when he hits a good one its often very low and at pace and easy to attack so its not all bad on crosses with danny imo. Im sure others are into miles ran and assists and of course some clubs are using this data but i think its crap. well that's put our analyst blokie out of a job then
I thought he was part of our L1 'competitive edge'
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Post by Peter Parker on Apr 19, 2017 9:30:45 GMT
I was brought up on appearances goals so all the assist stuff is total rubbish to me,its a team game and the teams that win most win leagues simple as that. Danny leadbitter is often slated for his erratic crossing but strangely when he hits a good one its often very low and at pace and easy to attack so its not all bad on crosses with danny imo. Im sure others are into miles ran and assists and of course some clubs are using this data but i think its crap. depends doesn't it what you are using data for.
look at Adam Lallana, consistently runs further than any player in the Prem and has been one of Liverpool's best players this season
I think people think that teams are being picked on data alone sometimes. It's a tool to help, to compliment the management
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Post by laughinggas on Apr 19, 2017 10:11:08 GMT
Back to the original point. It is said by some we need to replace our strikers but is it that simple.
Are the current ones missing lots of chances or are we creating few, or are they not making the right runs?
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Post by Gas Since 1957 on Apr 19, 2017 17:57:43 GMT
Also interesting that Leads cannot cross, or so I read! I'm not sure 4 assists in a whole season proves he can cross to be honest. More worryingly, our three wingers, Bodin, Moore and Montano have one assist each. I'm not sure I believe those stats but if true it's no wonder we have struggled to store goals. So Moore's assists v Bury and Oldham add up to 2 but he's only had 1? Pretty sure there are some others from Moore as well. Not sure about Monty - thought he created a few for Twatty Maylor till he joined the franchise at Trashton. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 18:55:57 GMT
Kegan or Deg?
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Post by a more piratey game on Apr 19, 2017 19:46:49 GMT
as the subject is eggs I was expecting a post from you on this much earlier Mr Shoveller
you been at the bread again?
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Post by DudeLebowski on Apr 19, 2017 23:57:39 GMT
Leads seems to have a major problem getting his instep around the ball. His crossing is so poor, it's almost as if he's swinging it over using his heel.
Seen the majority of home/away games the last three years & the only single quality cross I can recall was his ball in for the snake away to Oxford in the 2-1 win last season.
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Post by stig-of-the-gas on Apr 20, 2017 13:00:32 GMT
I'm not sure 4 assists in a whole season proves he can cross to be honest. More worryingly, our three wingers, Bodin, Moore and Montano have one assist each. I'm not sure I believe those stats but if true it's no wonder we have struggled to store goals. So Moore's assists v Bury and Oldham add up to 2 but he's only had 1? Pretty sure there are some others from Moore as well. Not sure about Monty - thought he created a few for Twatty Maylor till he joined the franchise at Trashton. Exactly what I thought. That's why I questioned whether the stats were to be believed. |
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Post by irishrover on Apr 24, 2017 1:05:43 GMT
Game doesn't work like that. The theory of defenders 'stop em', midfielders 'make em', strikers 'score em' was disproved by Herbert Chapman nearly 100 years ago.
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 24, 2017 8:20:37 GMT
There are so many statistics around now and so many sites doing them but the only stats that matter are goals scored and goals against which lead to points gained. Even the possession stats so loved by pundits mean little if you don't score. Tbh I've always found "assists" confusing. When I saw some of those stats about the assista I didn't believe them. Because I don't remember all the lead up to the goals of all matches I may be wrong but pretty sure that Sincs and Lines have a few each. I guess it's the times we are playing in with blanket coverage of football so lots of people have to justify their jobs but perhaps this is their way of doing it.
UTG!
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