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Post by a more piratey game on Mar 19, 2017 14:03:13 GMT
they missed out an important bit there, surely?
Bristol has topped the list of the "best places to live in Britain" in a new guide for 2017.
The city has been named as the UK's most desirable location in the Sunday Times Best Places to Live Guide.
Described as "a small city that feels like a big city", it was praised for being "handily placed for seaside and scenery" but "hardly cut off".
Regional winners included Frome in Somerset, Peckham in London and Ballycastle in Northern Ireland.
The annual guide, which combines data such as crime rates, house prices and school performance, said the city had faced "stiff competition" from London and other major UK destinations
But it said, with lots of "glamorous, creative, hi-tech and professional" jobs on offer and "great" food and drink - the city "crams in all the culture you could wish for".
Sunday Times home editor Helen Davies, said: "The city is a worthy winner thanks to its ideal combination of extraordinary culture, impressive schools, buzzing culinary scene, exciting redevelopment and community spirit.
"We sum the city up as cool, classy and supremely creative."
Mayor of Bristol, Marvin Rees, said he was "chuffed" the city had been recognised.
"Pinpointing what makes Bristol special isn't easy," he said.
"It's a combination of many things from the people to the place itself, but at the heart of it is our cultural diversity and independent spirit."
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-39320118
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Post by bs5 on Mar 19, 2017 15:09:31 GMT
"Small city" not quite right there
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 15:48:55 GMT
"Small city" not quite right there I thought that. What a load of bollocks, was another thought. Handy for the seaside my arse.
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Post by Gashead on Mar 19, 2017 15:55:54 GMT
An article for Londoners looking to move.
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Mar 19, 2017 16:15:14 GMT
"Small city" not quite right there Birmingham – 1,073,045. Leeds – 751,485. Sheffield – 552,698. Bradford – 522,452. Manchester – 503,127. Liverpool – 466,415. Bristol – 428,234. Newcastle 280,177. Up here Stoke is only 220,000 so calling us a 'Small City' is wide of the mark.After the Capital we are the 7 th Largest in England.
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Post by bs5 on Mar 19, 2017 16:15:37 GMT
"Small city" not quite right there I thought that. What a load of bollocks, was another thought. Handy for the seaside my arse. Smaller than the 5 Cities bigger than us i.e., London Brum , Manchester, Leeds and Sheffield and largest city other than London south of Birmingham 😉
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 16:31:00 GMT
"Small city" not quite right there Birmingham – 1,073,045. Leeds – 751,485. Sheffield – 552,698. Bradford – 522,452. Manchester – 503,127. Liverpool – 466,415. Bristol – 428,234. Newcastle 280,177. Up here Stoke is only 220,000 so calling us a 'Small City' is wide of the mark.After the Capital we are the 7 th Largest in England. Population figures are a bit misleading. Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool, Bristol, Newcastle, um and Nottingham and maybe others (oh, Leicester) only cover part of what looks and feels like 'the city'. The ONS publishes figures for the 'urban area' - for Bristol in 2011 it was 617,000 - that takes in Kingswood, Filton, BS, Downend, etc. all outside the city boundary. Meanwhile, Bradford and Leeds extend way out beyond 'the city'. Brum, Manchester and Liverpool are way bigger. If they're second scale, Bristol and others (Leeds, Sheffield, Newcastle, Nottingham) are probably 3rd. I'd reserve 'small city' for the likes of Norwich, Exeter, Bath, and York, though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 17:02:42 GMT
In other news, in their long list of good things, The Sunday Times seems didn't bother with what some people claim to be #makingbristolproud
It puts that daft claim in perspective.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 20, 2017 18:13:37 GMT
"Small city" not quite right there Birmingham – 1,073,045. Leeds – 751,485. Sheffield – 552,698. Bradford – 522,452. Manchester – 503,127. Liverpool – 466,415. Bristol – 428,234. Newcastle 280,177. Up here Stoke is only 220,000 so calling us a 'Small City' is wide of the mark.After the Capital we are the 7 th Largest in England. I believe those numbers don't take in all BS areas. If you looked at greater Bristol then I'd wager it's a lot more
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 21:30:13 GMT
Jesus, not the Bristol border debate brother. It never ends.
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Post by richmace on Mar 21, 2017 7:05:37 GMT
Jesus, not the Bristol border debate brother. It never ends. The edge of Bristol should be where the continuous built up area ends. For example, I live in Patchway and class myself as living in Bristol and there is a continuous built up area extending south through the centre all the way down to Keynsham. All Bristol in my eyes. Any other border is meaningless and arbitrary.
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Post by dido on Mar 21, 2017 15:22:18 GMT
Your definition would definitely exclude Keynsham, then.
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Post by irishrover on Mar 21, 2017 15:59:24 GMT
Jesus, not the Bristol border debate brother. It never ends. The edge of Bristol should be where the continuous built up area ends. For example, I live in Patchway and class myself as living in Bristol and there is a continuous built up area extending south through the centre all the way down to Keynsham. All Bristol in my eyes. Any other border is meaningless and arbitrary. A lot of people in Keynsham would get very angry about that - a lot of them seem to get quite het up about being associated with a place as plebian as 'Bristol' these days, which is ironic considering what most of modern day Bristol is actually like. Makes me wonder if any of those people have actually been to Bristol since the early 1980s..... For me, the political and physical boundaries are entirely arbitrary - 'Bristol' is a state of mind man.......Apart from for council tax purposes - for which I officially lived in Addis Ababa for some time.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 21, 2017 17:35:22 GMT
Jesus, not the Bristol border debate brother. It never ends. The edge of Bristol should be where the continuous built up area ends. For example, I live in Patchway and class myself as living in Bristol and there is a continuous built up area extending south through the centre all the way down to Keynsham. All Bristol in my eyes. Any other border is meaningless and arbitrary. Agreed and I'm sure people would call themselves Bristolian too
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 21, 2017 17:37:13 GMT
The edge of Bristol should be where the continuous built up area ends. For example, I live in Patchway and class myself as living in Bristol and there is a continuous built up area extending south through the centre all the way down to Keynsham. All Bristol in my eyes. Any other border is meaningless and arbitrary. A lot of people in Keynsham would get very angry about that - a lot of them seem to get quite het up about being associated with a place as plebian as 'Bristol' these days, which is ironic considering what most of modern day Bristol is actually like. Makes me wonder if any of those people have actually been to Bristol since the early 1980s..... For me, the political and physical boundaries are entirely arbitrary - 'Bristol' is a state of mind man.......Apart from for council tax purposes - for which I officially lived in Addis Ababa for some time. You're spot on there. Keynsham is a funny old place indeed.
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Post by bs14gas on Mar 24, 2017 19:40:08 GMT
This survey clearly did not take the transport infrastructure into account. Truly shocking bus service, not tram / train option and rammed roads.
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Post by manchestergas on Mar 25, 2017 11:56:11 GMT
Birmingham – 1,073,045. Leeds – 751,485. Sheffield – 552,698. Bradford – 522,452. Manchester – 503,127. Liverpool – 466,415. Bristol – 428,234. Newcastle 280,177. Up here Stoke is only 220,000 so calling us a 'Small City' is wide of the mark.After the Capital we are the 7 th Largest in England. Population figures are a bit misleading. Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool, Bristol, Newcastle, um and Nottingham and maybe others (oh, Leicester) only cover part of what looks and feels like 'the city'. The ONS publishes figures for the 'urban area' - for Bristol in 2011 it was 617,000 - that takes in Kingswood, Filton, BS, Downend, etc. all outside the city boundary. Meanwhile, Bradford and Leeds extend way out beyond 'the city'. Brum, Manchester and Liverpool are way bigger. If they're second scale, Bristol and others (Leeds, Sheffield, Newcastle, Nottingham) are probably 3rd. I'd reserve 'small city' for the likes of Norwich, Exeter, Bath, and York, though. I suspect the Manchester figures exclude Salford, which I would consider makes up about half of what I consider the urban area of Manchester. It also excludes most of the outlying areas. Accurate figures for the population of what someone considers 'a city' is all a bit subjective. I live in the city of Manchester and have lived in the metropolitan area of Bradford, the feel of Manchester is that it is about four times as big as Bradford which those figures do not reflect.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2017 12:21:32 GMT
This survey clearly did not take the transport infrastructure into account. Truly shocking bus service, not tram / train option and rammed roads. It specifically commented on the transport problems and Bristol still came out on top. Perhaps there is more to life than traffic jams, who knows?!
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Post by irishrover on Mar 25, 2017 23:54:04 GMT
Population figures are a bit misleading. Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool, Bristol, Newcastle, um and Nottingham and maybe others (oh, Leicester) only cover part of what looks and feels like 'the city'. The ONS publishes figures for the 'urban area' - for Bristol in 2011 it was 617,000 - that takes in Kingswood, Filton, BS, Downend, etc. all outside the city boundary. Meanwhile, Bradford and Leeds extend way out beyond 'the city'. Brum, Manchester and Liverpool are way bigger. If they're second scale, Bristol and others (Leeds, Sheffield, Newcastle, Nottingham) are probably 3rd. I'd reserve 'small city' for the likes of Norwich, Exeter, Bath, and York, though. I suspect the Manchester figures exclude Salford, which I would consider makes up about half of what I consider the urban area of Manchester. It also excludes most of the outlying areas. Accurate figures for the population of what someone considers 'a city' is all a bit subjective. I live in the city of Manchester and have lived in the metropolitan area of Bradford, the feel of Manchester is that it is about four times as big as Bradford which those figures do not reflect. That's right - the size of Manchester is always significantly underemphasised if the focus is purely on the City boundaries. The City of Manchester is quite compact but makes little sense as a measure of the size of the urban area anymore given that Manchester runs pretty much seamlessly into Trafford, Stockport, Bury and Salford.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2017 2:06:00 GMT
I suspect the Manchester figures exclude Salford, which I would consider makes up about half of what I consider the urban area of Manchester. It also excludes most of the outlying areas. Accurate figures for the population of what someone considers 'a city' is all a bit subjective. I live in the city of Manchester and have lived in the metropolitan area of Bradford, the feel of Manchester is that it is about four times as big as Bradford which those figures do not reflect. That's right - the size of Manchester is always significantly underemphasised if the focus is purely on the City boundaries. The City of Manchester is quite compact but makes little sense as a measure of the size of the urban area anymore given that Manchester runs pretty much seamlessly into Trafford, Stockport, Bury and Salford. ..and Tameside and Oldham. Old Trafford (football and cricket grounds) aren't in the 'City of Manchester'. Neither is Salford Quays, home of Media City (there's a clue in the name). Likewise, Forest don't play within the 'City of Nottingham'. Oh, and UWE is in South Glos (always the better club outside the boundary).... and everyone knows that Grimsby actually play in Cleethorpes (though only locals know where the boundary is). Why are we talking about this?
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