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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2016 12:46:44 GMT
Potential is a much abused word on football forums,probably 'my opinion' would be a better term you're suggesting I should have written "He has great my opinion", instead of "He has great potential"? Doesn't the fact we're on here offering opinions speak for itself? It does in my opinion. Perhaps you could say "in my opinion he could play at a higher level".
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2016 12:48:53 GMT
you're suggesting I should have written "He has great my opinion", instead of "He has great potential"? Doesn't the fact we're on here offering opinions speak for itself? It does in my opinion. Perhaps you could say "in my opinion he could play at a higher level". I'd be suffering some sort of delusion if I thought that saying he has the potential to play at a higher level was anything other than my opinion
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Post by blueginger on Dec 30, 2016 12:50:04 GMT
He will have to learn to tackle and put himself about, pretty dam quick when back at Palace or big Sam will have him out the door.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2016 13:03:42 GMT
Perhaps you could say "in my opinion he could play at a higher level". I'd be suffering some sort of delusion if I thought that saying he has the potential to play at a higher level was anything other than my opinion Has he got the potential though?. All the people who used to mention Ellis Harrisons potential have been proved wrong,he didnt have the potential to play at a higher level or he would be,again it was just their opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2016 13:06:51 GMT
I'd be suffering some sort of delusion if I thought that saying he has the potential to play at a higher level was anything other than my opinion Has he got the potential though?. All the people who used to mention Ellis Harrisons potential have been proved wrong,he didnt have the potential to play at a higher level or he would be,again it was just their opinion. I think Harrison has potential to be a decent League One player. I think Blissett did and does, too (Plymouth apparently agree). That used to be "a higher level".
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2016 13:49:16 GMT
Has he got the potential though?. All the people who used to mention Ellis Harrisons potential have been proved wrong,he didnt have the potential to play at a higher level or he would be,again it was just their opinion. I think Harrison has potential to be a decent League One player. I think Blissett did and does, too (Plymouth apparently agree). That used to be "a higher level". "I think that Harrison has potential etc" sounds better than people saying "Harrison has potential",even though I disagree. Blissett going to Plymouth ? I remember seeing Paul Mariner playing for them, now they will see Blissett what a treat for their supporters. Fair play to Blissett if he can get into a team at that level I certainly didnt think that he would.
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Post by harrybuckle on Dec 30, 2016 17:22:52 GMT
Four conference goals for Bliss so far this season in 21 starts plus 3 sub appearances NOT exactly prolific. Amazed Argyle would want a 26 year old unproven striker for league football
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Post by daniel300380 on Dec 30, 2016 17:23:59 GMT
Palace fans rate him (I know a few that watch their development sides cos its cheaper than the Prem), Plymouth fans rate him, he's got the size to intimidate any player (but not the presence, yet), he's got decent ball retention skills and he can knock a pass anywhere on the pitch with his left foot. He's just only shown it in patches whilst here. He's only 20, and I think he'll have a decent career above L1 level. He might not, and end up in the Conference, but that doesn't mean he didn't have the potential to do better. The Plymouth fans I know don't rate him. I live in Cornwall and know season ticket holders. They said similar to a lot of us, that he is good when he actually gets the ball, but he can't run. Seems to divide opinions everywhere. No doubting he has technical ability, but that's not everything.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Dec 30, 2016 17:24:03 GMT
None of the loanees will have a chance if they don't get a run of games - waste of time and money signing them to sit on the bench interestingly we drew 6 out of the 12 games he played Spot on. DC really doesn't like to play loans very much. We certainly won't be gaining any popularity points if we loan players then don't play them
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Post by daniel300380 on Dec 30, 2016 17:32:23 GMT
None of the loanees will have a chance if they don't get a run of games - waste of time and money signing them to sit on the bench interestingly we drew 6 out of the 12 games he played Spot on. DC really doesn't like to play loans very much. We certainly won't be gaining any popularity points if we loan players then don't play them This will happen more and more. With no emergency loan window, we need cover for every position, but they won't always play. If we didn't sign them and players got injured, everyone would moan that we should have signed cover! If they make an impact they will play, like Gaffney last season. They don't deserve to start, Judy because they are on the books of a Prem club though, most don't make the grade.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Dec 30, 2016 18:26:44 GMT
I'd be suffering some sort of delusion if I thought that saying he has the potential to play at a higher level was anything other than my opinion Has he got the potential though?. All the people who used to mention Ellis Harrisons potential have been proved wrong,he didnt have the potential to play at a higher level or he would be,again it was just their opinion. I feel that once he can curb his anger and learn to be more productive off of the ball that his potential is still there. I really do believe he has the skill level to play at an higher level, in my opinion of course
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2016 18:43:08 GMT
Has he got the potential though?. All the people who used to mention Ellis Harrisons potential have been proved wrong,he didnt have the potential to play at a higher level or he would be,again it was just their opinion. I feel that once he can curb his anger and learn to be more productive off of the ball that his potential is still there. I really do believe he has the skill level to play at an higher level, in my opinion of course As Rovers most famous supporter wrote 'Only time will tell', personally I dont think that he is good enough for the present level and that Rovers need a centre forward who can score goals. Lets see what managers and scouts think after all its their job to find players with potential.
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Post by laughinggas on Dec 30, 2016 19:10:06 GMT
Funny how most seem to criticise, we are third tier and if all players were perfect they would be somewhere else. History shows we get players who may improve or journeymen. If they improve and leave it will be same old Rovers always selling.
End of Jan we need a reveiw, by these experts, of the new players on what they will bring to the club and what level they will play at. For those who leave, what level will they achieve.
All opinions welcome
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Post by eppinggas on Dec 30, 2016 19:11:33 GMT
Ellis has scored a lot of crucial goals for the Gas. It would be interesting to see the goals per minute ratio for Harrison vs Gaffney this year / season. I still think Harrison is worth persevering with. I think Gaffney works his socks off - but just doesn't score enough. Keep both. UTG.
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Post by a more piratey game on Dec 30, 2016 19:14:12 GMT
I still think Harrison is worth persevering with. I think Gaffney works his socks off - but just doesn't score enough. Keep both. UTG. blinkin flip I agree with you
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Post by stevek192 on Dec 31, 2016 11:39:31 GMT
Would be good to see Ellis alongside a decent centre forward. I imagine alongside say Akinfenwa he would do very well as at the moment with us he is a leader of the attack rather than a secondary man and if he played with Gaffney would have to be the one to win the ball in the air. I feel worth persevering withas could well be an Andy Williams who goes and scores a lot of goals. Personally I would go for Ogle of Grimsby or Akinde at Barnet.
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Post by Igitur on Dec 31, 2016 16:54:05 GMT
Boeteng signed by Northampton 'til end of season, so he will probably be at the Mem this Saturday.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jan 1, 2017 8:24:52 GMT
Boeteng signed by Northampton 'til end of season, so he will probably be at the Mem this Saturday. I wonder if he's been tracked as a replacement for O'Toole? Surely some premiership club would be signing him this month (by his own ego!)??!
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Post by Alveston Gas on Jan 1, 2017 10:17:56 GMT
None of the loanees will have a chance if they don't get a run of games - waste of time and money signing them to sit on the bench interestingly we drew 6 out of the 12 games he played Spot on. DC really doesn't like to play loans very much. We certainly won't be gaining any popularity points if we loan players then don't play them It's not that he doesn't want to play them. Surely they have to play, train and perform better than our contracted players to get in the side. Not one of our loan signings yet have. To me that suggests our own players are better than we think & more than capable at this level. Delighted that the likes of Leads, Brown, Ollie Clarke, Sincs, Taylor, Bodin, Montano, Gaffney & Harrison have continued to develop which could save us a fortune over time.
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Post by stig-of-the-gas on Jan 1, 2017 12:53:27 GMT
Flattered to deceive,not enough effort,not enough fight and therefore not a DC type of player. I won't miss him. That's sums it up pretty well. DC's is 100% consistent in what he expects. In his radio interview after yesterday's game he talked about effort off the ball, closing down, doing the dirty work. That's what pleased him most. A "DC type of player" has to earn the right to be on the pitch by his effort, work rate and what he does when the opposition have the ball. Doesn't matter how good you are on the ball, first and foremost you have to earn the right to be on that pitch. That is why a group of conference players are cutting it in League 1. That is why the spirit is so good - because they would die for each other on that pitch. Boateng simply didn't earn the right to be on the pitch. Full stop. Excellent on the ball, didn't have the fight off the ball. Its a problem with academies. Too many games of "pretty football" where the result doesn't really matter. It makes finding loan players that will properly fit in a real challenge.
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