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Post by bluecamel on Nov 25, 2016 9:13:13 GMT
Gasheads had so much so awful so long. So easy to fear the worst after that.
Shoveller is bang on - and repeating comments made after departures and 1-5 drubbings has that kind of effect upon people.
I have no personal opinion at this point in time, but as a sh*t Ed acquaintance enjoys chuntering at me - nothing has happened yet, other than Clarkes good fortune giving the owners an easier ride-introduction than could had been wished for.
The stadium situation and lack of news does not help, lets not forget the chairman's comments a few months back 'news tomorrow imminent' saga followed by stone silence.
Pinch of salt regarding team performance, but the 4-0 at Millwall did not help the situation.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2016 9:36:06 GMT
Gasheads had so much so awful so long. So easy to fear the worst after that.
Shoveller is bang on - and repeating comments made after departures and 1-5 drubbings has that kind of effect upon people.
I have no personal opinion at this point in time, but as a sh*t Ed acquaintance enjoys chuntering at me - nothing has happened yet, other than Clarkes good fortune giving the owners an easier ride-introduction than could had been wished for.
The stadium situation and lack of news does not help, lets not forget the chairman's comments a few months back 'news tomorrow imminent' saga followed by stone silence.
Pinch of salt regarding team performance, but the 4-0 at Millwall did not help the situation.
Perhaps you should explain to the uneducated one that we were facing administration prior to WAQ's arrival, this is no longer the case, we now have the biggest squad we have ever had and a back from staff of 11 employees that were not here before WAQ's arrival and were on the verge of purchasing land for our academy and we recently purchased additional land from UWE to build a hotel and leisure facilities, i will take that as a ''nothing has happened yet'' comparing it to past directors, hopefully that level of nothing has happened will continue quietly behind the scenes at the pace it has done so far..
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Post by bluecamel on Nov 25, 2016 9:40:39 GMT
True. and have made the same point in reply
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Nov 25, 2016 11:17:42 GMT
Shoveller is bang on - and repeating comments made after departures and 1-5 drubbings has that kind of effect upon people.
I have no personal opinion at this point in time, but as a sh*t Ed acquaintance enjoys chuntering at me - nothing has happened yet, other than Clarkes good fortune giving the owners an easier ride-introduction than could had been wished for.
The stadium situation and lack of news does not help, lets not forget the chairman's comments a few months back 'news tomorrow imminent' saga followed by stone silence.
Pinch of salt regarding team performance, but the 4-0 at Millwall did not help the situation.
Perhaps you should explain to the uneducated one that we were facing administration prior to WAQ's arrival, this is no longer the case, we now have the biggest squad we have ever had and a back from staff of 11 employees that were not here before WAQ's arrival and were on the verge of purchasing land for our academy and we recently purchased additional land from UWE to build a hotel and leisure facilities, i will take that as a ''nothing has happened yet'' comparing it to past directors, hopefully that level of nothing has happened will continue quietly behind the scenes at the pace it has done so far.. I think the stumbling block is we haven't purchased any land from UWE. Not sure where you plucked that idea from.
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Post by simonj on Nov 25, 2016 12:07:13 GMT
I am going for the 2 points from playoffs, teams like Sheff Utd, Cov, Bolton etc. Financially secure with the ownership, we have the Mem (hole or otherwise, depends on your view), great young ambitious manager, a passionate owner who wishes us well. More good news, or news that we need to change tact, will be received by me favourably, regardless, as 3 years ago I was beginning to lose my love for BRFC, and I now love it as much as I ever did.
If UWE is binned, there will be good reason, if it is to continue, I expect we wont hear until the confidential parts have been ironed out; my complete guess is we now have stronger negotiating points and want more of the pie than the predecessors were after, who would probably have taken any crumbs going, due to their circumstance. This is more likely where we are. No news, well, I bet when it comes it will be good news, even if we have started a new project.
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Post by basel on Nov 25, 2016 13:23:01 GMT
I hope it just means this bloke was'nt prepared to put the hours in,wanted a cushy ride,but due to 'not being a football person',he did'nt realise he had to actually work.
I imagine we'll hear from the Board soon.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2016 13:49:45 GMT
Shoveller is bang on - and repeating comments made after departures and 1-5 drubbings has that kind of effect upon people.
I have no personal opinion at this point in time, but as a sh*t Ed acquaintance enjoys chuntering at me - nothing has happened yet, other than Clarkes good fortune giving the owners an easier ride-introduction than could had been wished for.
The stadium situation and lack of news does not help, lets not forget the chairman's comments a few months back 'news tomorrow imminent' saga followed by stone silence.
Pinch of salt regarding team performance, but the 4-0 at Millwall did not help the situation.
Perhaps you should explain to the uneducated one that we were facing administration prior to WAQ's arrival, this is no longer the case, we now have the biggest squad we have ever had and a back from staff of 11 employees that were not here before WAQ's arrival and were on the verge of purchasing land for our academy and we recently purchased additional land from UWE to build a hotel and leisure facilities, i will take that as a ''nothing has happened yet'' comparing it to past directors, hopefully that level of nothing has happened will continue quietly behind the scenes at the pace it has done so far.. Were we? As far as I'm aware everyone was paid, I don't think that Higgs was unable to pay MSP, we were about to be promoted again, crowds were holding up, Higgs wasn't so daft as to not plan for losing the Sainsbury's case, crowds were holding up, I just can't see where talk of administration comes from?
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Post by a more piratey game on Nov 25, 2016 14:10:25 GMT
we now have the biggest squad we have ever had and a back from staff of 11 employees that were not here before WAQ's arrival and were on the verge of purchasing land for our academy and we recently purchased additional land from UWE to build a hotel and leisure facilities that's my view. I'm still very happy with it all. Heading in a very good direction, and not slowly either
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Post by Cheshiregas on Nov 25, 2016 16:18:53 GMT
Perhaps you should explain to the uneducated one that we were facing administration prior to WAQ's arrival, this is no longer the case, we now have the biggest squad we have ever had and a back from staff of 11 employees that were not here before WAQ's arrival and were on the verge of purchasing land for our academy and we recently purchased additional land from UWE to build a hotel and leisure facilities, i will take that as a ''nothing has happened yet'' comparing it to past directors, hopefully that level of nothing has happened will continue quietly behind the scenes at the pace it has done so far.. Were we? As far as I'm aware everyone was paid, I don't think that Higgs was unable to pay MSP, we were about to be promoted again, crowds were holding up, Higgs wasn't so daft as to not plan for losing the Sainsbury's case, crowds were holding up, I just can't see where talk of administration comes from? 2 points Bamber ~ as far as I remember Higgs was not prepared for us to lose to Sainsbury as we had a "watertight" case. If you recall the talk (from certain Board member(s) with loose lips) was that other directors were not prepared to cough up any more money and it was not certain Higgs had the desire or intent to fork out his own money to meet the loan rollover for MSP either. Had that not been met MSP could have taken the stadium to meet BRFC obligations and that administration could have followed if working capital wasn't available. The Bank certainly wasn't prepared to bail us out. But anyway that's the past and I am sure when GoD's book comes out we will all know another side to the story..
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 25, 2016 16:48:51 GMT
When is that book coming out? I'm sure GD said he was going to write one. Could it possibly be that a member of the previous Board was telling lies? Surely not.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2016 17:46:31 GMT
Perhaps you should explain to the uneducated one that we were facing administration prior to WAQ's arrival, this is no longer the case, we now have the biggest squad we have ever had and a back from staff of 11 employees that were not here before WAQ's arrival and were on the verge of purchasing land for our academy and we recently purchased additional land from UWE to build a hotel and leisure facilities, i will take that as a ''nothing has happened yet'' comparing it to past directors, hopefully that level of nothing has happened will continue quietly behind the scenes at the pace it has done so far.. Were we? As far as I'm aware everyone was paid, I don't think that Higgs was unable to pay MSP, we were about to be promoted again, crowds were holding up, Higgs wasn't so daft as to not plan for losing the Sainsbury's case, crowds were holding up, I just can't see where talk of administration comes from? Good point Bamber, should have worded that bit differently to we were rapidly heading in the right direction, giving the administrators every reason to pull into the car park and take control of a failing regime who had placed the club in a precarious position, the bit in your comment that starts with Higgs is entertaining to read!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2016 19:41:58 GMT
Were we? As far as I'm aware everyone was paid, I don't think that Higgs was unable to pay MSP, we were about to be promoted again, crowds were holding up, Higgs wasn't so daft as to not plan for losing the Sainsbury's case, crowds were holding up, I just can't see where talk of administration comes from? 2 points Bamber ~ as far as I remember Higgs was not prepared for us to lose to Sainsbury as we had a "watertight" case. If you recall the talk (from certain Board member(s) with loose lips) was that other directors were not prepared to cough up any more money and it was not certain Higgs had the desire or intent to fork out his own money to meet the loan rollover for MSP either. Had that not been met MSP could have taken the stadium to meet BRFC obligations and that administration could have followed if working capital wasn't available. The Bank certainly wasn't prepared to bail us out. But anyway that's the past and I am sure when GoD's book comes out we will all know another side to the story.. I think that Higgs was being advised that the case was worth fighting and that he stood a good chance of getting Sainsbury's to be ordered to cover all costs associated with the MSP loan, I always thought we would lose, and was called some rude names for saying so, but there you go Ref administration, was never going to happen. Higgs wouldn't have handed over control of the stadium for the sake of £3m, the only way that would ever have happened, regardless of what other directors were playing at, is if he literally didn't have the money to pay MSP.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2016 2:46:24 GMT
IF for any reason this doesnt come off then it will be for sound financial reasons id rather NOT sign up to something if its not financially viable rather than go in on a wing and a prayer
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Post by fanatical on Nov 28, 2016 9:32:19 GMT
Shoveller is bang on - and repeating comments made after departures and 1-5 drubbings has that kind of effect upon people.
I have no personal opinion at this point in time, but as a sh*t Ed acquaintance enjoys chuntering at me - nothing has happened yet, other than Clarkes good fortune giving the owners an easier ride-introduction than could had been wished for.
The stadium situation and lack of news does not help, lets not forget the chairman's comments a few months back 'news tomorrow imminent' saga followed by stone silence.
Pinch of salt regarding team performance, but the 4-0 at Millwall did not help the situation.
Perhaps you should explain to the uneducated one that we were facing administration prior to WAQ's arrival, this is no longer the case, we now have the biggest squad we have ever had and a back from staff of 11 employees that were not here before WAQ's arrival and were on the verge of purchasing land for our academy and we recently purchased additional land from UWE to build a hotel and leisure facilities, i will take that as a ''nothing has happened yet'' comparing it to past directors, hopefully that level of nothing has happened will continue quietly behind the scenes at the pace it has done so far.. please explain - when did this happen
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Post by crater on Nov 28, 2016 13:46:18 GMT
Truth is the normal fan knows f all about what is going on re the UWE yet it doesn't stop some from giving their view as if it is based on fact
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Post by Peter Parker on Nov 28, 2016 13:47:53 GMT
Truth is the normal fan knows f all about what is going on re the UWE yet it doesn't stop some from giving their view as if it is based on fact you mean there ITK contact, which they use to give cryptic clues
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Nov 28, 2016 15:45:10 GMT
2 points Bamber ~ as far as I remember Higgs was not prepared for us to lose to Sainsbury as we had a "watertight" case. If you recall the talk (from certain Board member(s) with loose lips) was that other directors were not prepared to cough up any more money and it was not certain Higgs had the desire or intent to fork out his own money to meet the loan rollover for MSP either. Had that not been met MSP could have taken the stadium to meet BRFC obligations and that administration could have followed if working capital wasn't available. The Bank certainly wasn't prepared to bail us out. But anyway that's the past and I am sure when GoD's book comes out we will all know another side to the story.. I think that Higgs was being advised that the case was worth fighting and that he stood a good chance of getting Sainsbury's to be ordered to cover all costs associated with the MSP loan, I always thought we would lose, and was called some rude names for saying so, but there you go Ref administration, was never going to happen. Higgs wouldn't have handed over control of the stadium for the sake of £3m, the only way that would ever have happened, regardless of what other directors were playing at, is if he literally didn't have the money to pay MSP. Maybe its a good thing we did lose the Sainsbury's case it could have been a situation very similar to Coventry's move to the Ricoh with revenues going elsewhere and us not being able to afford to stay there once what was left of the Sainsbury's money after debts had been paid off had run out.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2016 22:43:59 GMT
Perhaps you should explain to the uneducated one that we were facing administration prior to WAQ's arrival, this is no longer the case, we now have the biggest squad we have ever had and a back from staff of 11 employees that were not here before WAQ's arrival and were on the verge of purchasing land for our academy and we recently purchased additional land from UWE to build a hotel and leisure facilities, i will take that as a ''nothing has happened yet'' comparing it to past directors, hopefully that level of nothing has happened will continue quietly behind the scenes at the pace it has done so far.. please explain - when did this happen I thought this news had been previously released on this site? Sure iv'e read it somewhere recently, it is around somewhere online, MS is a bugger for playing cognitive games and creating a poor memory.
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 29, 2016 9:44:34 GMT
As far as I'm aware, we have not purchased anything from the UWE. Discussions are on-going. We are all in the dark. The ITK brigade are now the "know FA brigade". At some stage I would have thought fair that Wael Al-Qadi / Steve Hamer will give us a progress report. It would make a nice Christmas present.
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Post by a more piratey game on Nov 29, 2016 10:19:41 GMT
It would make a nice Christmas present. good point!
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