crater
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DC & MT
Oct 20, 2016 19:55:04 GMT
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Post by crater on Oct 20, 2016 19:55:04 GMT
It would cost a chunk of cash in comp to prize DC away so that may put a few off. MT different altogether. His comments after he re-signed about leaving by the front door and not the back door were telling. Has to be an amount offered to BRFC that allows him to speak to other clubs written into his new contract and I think it may not be as high as some might think (this is just a theory)
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Post by mangogas15 on Oct 21, 2016 6:27:14 GMT
I bet Michael Appleton still thinks he can get MT
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harrybuckle
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Post by harrybuckle on Oct 21, 2016 7:13:35 GMT
DC now in the top twenty of longest serving managers
Arsène Wenger France 22 October 1949 Arsenal Premier League 1 October 1996[note 1] 20 years, 19 days [1] Paul Tisdale England 14 January 1973 Exeter City League Two 26 June 2006 10 years, 116 days [2] Karl Robinson England 13 September 1980 Milton Keynes Dons League One 10 May 2010 6 years, 163 days [3] Paul Hurst England 25 September 1974 Grimsby Town League Two 23 March 2011[note 2] 5 years, 211 days [4][5] Jim Bentley England 11 June 1976 Morecambe League Two 13 May 2011 5 years, 160 days [6] Steve Davis England 26 July 1965 Crewe Alexandra League Two 10 November 2011 4 years, 345 days [7] Gareth Ainsworth England 10 May 1973 Wycombe Wanderers League Two 24 September 2012 4 years, 26 days [8][9] Neal Ardley England 1 September 1972 AFC Wimbledon League One 10 October 2012 4 years, 10 days [10] Eddie Howe England 29 November 1977 Bournemouth Premier League 12 October 2012 4 years, 7 days [11] Sean Dyche England 28 June 1971 Burnley Premier League 30 October 2012 3 years, 356 days [12] Mick McCarthy Republic of Ireland 7 February 1959 Ipswich Town Championship 1 November 2012 3 years, 354 days [13] Keith Hill England 17 May 1969 Rochdale League One 22 January 2013 3 years, 272 days [14] Simon Grayson England 19 December 1969 Preston North End Championship 18 February 2013 3 years, 245 days [15] Phil Brown England 30 May 1959 Southend United League One 25 March 2013 3 years, 209 days [16] Mark Hughes Wales 1 November 1963 Stoke City Premier League 30 May 2013 3 years, 143 days [17] Aitor Karanka Spain 18 September 1973 Middlesbrough Premier League 13 November 2013 2 years, 342 days [18] David Flitcroft England 14 January 1974 Bury League One 9 December 2013 2 years, 316 days [19] Martin Allen England 14 August 1965 Barnet League Two 19 March 2014 2 years, 215 days [20] Darrell Clarke England 16 December 1977 Bristol Rovers League One 28 March 2014 2 years, 206 days [21] Mauricio Pochettino Argentina 2 March 1972 Tottenham Hotspur Premier League 27 May 2014 2 years, 146 days [22] Michael Appleton England 4 December 1975 Oxford United League One 4 July 2014 2 years, 108 days [23] John Coleman England 12 October 1962 Accrington Stanley League Two 18 September 2014 2 years, 32 days [24] Keith Curle England 14 November 1963 Carlisle United League Two 19 September 2014 2 years, 31 days [25] Gary Rowett England 6 March 1974 Birmingham City Championship 27 October 2014 1 year, 359 days [26] Adam Murray England 30 September 1981 Mansfield Town League Two 21 November 2014 1 year, 334 days [27] Chris Hughton Republic of Ireland 11 December 1958 Brighton & Hove Albion Championship 31 December 2014 1 year, 294 days [28] Tony Pulis Wales 16 January 1958 West Bromwich Albion Premier League 1 January 2015[note 3] 1 year, 293 days [29] Alan Pardew England 18 July 1961 Crystal Palace Premier League 3 January 2015 1 year, 291 days [30] Alex Neil Scotland 9 June 1981 Norwich City Championship 9 January 2015 1 year, 285 days [31] Justin Edinburgh England 18 December 1969 Gillingham League One 7 February 2015[note 4] 1 year, 256 days [32] Neil Harris England 12 July 1977 Millwall League One 10 March 2015 1 year, 224 days [33][34] Gary Johnson England 28 September 1955 Cheltenham Town League Two 30 March 2015 1 year, 204 days [35] Gary Caldwell Scotland 12 April 1982 Wigan Athletic Championship 7 April 2015 1 year, 196 days [36] Paul Cook England 22 February 1967 Portsmouth League Two 12 May 2015 1 year, 161 days [37] Slaven Bilić Croatia 11 September 1968 West Ham United Premier League 9 June 2015 1 year, 133 days [38] Derek Adams Scotland 25 June 1975 Plymouth Argyle League Two 11 June 2015 1 year, 131 days [39] Carlos Carvalhal Portugal 4 December 1965 Sheffield Wednesday Championship 30 June 2015 1 year, 112 days [40] Claudio Ranieri Italy 20 October 1951 Leicester City Premier League 13 July 2015 1 year, 99 days [41] Jürgen Klopp Germany 16 June 1967 Liverpool Premier League 8 October 2015 1 year, 12 days [42] Darren Ferguson Scotland 9 February 1972 Doncaster Rovers League Two 16 October 2015[note 5] 1 year, 2 days [43] David Wagner United States 19 October 1971 Huddersfield Town Championship 9 November 2015[note 6] 346 days [45] Shaun Derry England 6 December 1977 Cambridge United League Two 12 November 2015 343 days [46] Dean Smith England 19 March 1971 Brentford Championship 30 November 2015 325 days [47] Darren Way England 21 November 1979 Yeovil Town League Two 1 December 2015 324 days [48][49] Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink Netherlands 27 March 1972 Queens Park Rangers Championship 4 December 2015 321 days [50] Nigel Clough England 19 March 1966 Burton Albion Championship 7 December 2015 318 days [51] Danny Wilson Northern Ireland 1 January 1960 Chesterfield League One 24 December 2015 301 days [52] Slaviša Jokanović Serbia 16 August 1968 Fulham Championship 27 December 2015 298 days [53] Luke Williams England 1980 Swindon Town League One 29 December 2015 296 days [54][55] Nathan Jones Wales 28 May 1973 Luton Town League Two 6 January 2016 288 days [56] Darren Sarll England 2 February 1983 Stevenage League Two 1 February 2016 262 days [57][58] Lee Johnson England 7 June 1981 Bristol City Championship 6 February 2016[note 7] 257 days [59] Paul Heckingbottom England 17 July 1977 Barnsley Championship 6 February 2016 257 days [59][60] Craig Hignett England 12 January 1970 Hartlepool United League Two 10 February 2016 253 days [61] Jon Whitney England 23 December 1970 Walsall League One 7 March 2016 227 days [62][63] Rafael Benítez Spain 16 April 1960 Newcastle United Championship 11 March 2016 223 days [64] Graham Alexander Scotland 10 October 1971 Scunthorpe United League One 22 March 2016 212 days [65] Grant McCann Northern Ireland 15 April 1980 Peterborough United League One 23 April 2016 180 days [66][67] Dermot Drummy England 16 January 1961 Crawley Town League Two 27 April 2016 176 days [68] John McGreal England 2 June 1972 Colchester United League Two 4 May 2016 169 days [69] Chris Wilder England 23 September 1967 Sheffield United League One 12 May 2016 161 days [70] Rob Page Wales 3 September 1974 Northampton Town League One 19 May 2016 154 days [71] José Mourinho Portugal 26 January 1963 Manchester United Premier League 27 May 2016 146 days [72] John Sheridan Republic of Ireland 1 October 1964 Notts County League Two 27 May 2016 146 days [73] Gary Bowyer England 26 June 1971 Blackpool League Two 1 June 2016 141 days [74] Garry Monk England 6 March 1979 Leeds United Championship 2 June 2016 140 days [75] Owen Coyle Republic of Ireland 14 July 1966 Blackburn Rovers Championship 2 June 2016 140 days [76] Russell Slade England 10 October 1960 Charlton Athletic League One 6 June 2016 136 days [77] Phil Parkinson England 1 December 1967 Bolton Wanderers League One 10 June 2016 132 days [78] Jaap Stam Netherlands 17 July 1972 Reading Championship 13 June 2016 129 days [79] Ronald Koeman Netherlands 21 March 1963 Everton Premier League 14 June 2016 128 days [80] Stuart McCall Scotland 10 June 1964 Bradford City League One 20 June 2016 122 days [81] Bruno Ribeiro Portugal 22 October 1975 Port Vale League One 20 June 2016 122 days [82] Philippe Montanier France 15 November 1964 Nottingham Forest Championship 27 June 2016 115 days [83] Claude Puel France 2 September 1961 Southampton Premier League 30 June 2016 112 days [84] Pep Guardiola Spain 18 January 1971 Manchester City Premier League 1 July 2016 111 days [85] Walter Mazzarri Italy 1 October 1961 Watford Premier League 1 July 2016 111 days [86] Antonio Conte Italy 31 July 1969 Chelsea Premier League 3 July 2016 109 days [87] Steve Robinson Northern Ireland 10 December 1974 Oldham Athletic League One 9 July 2016 103 days [88] Mike Phelan England 24 September 1962 Hull City Premier League 22 July 2016 90 days [89][90] David Moyes Scotland 25 April 1963 Sunderland Premier League 23 July 2016 89 days [91] Walter Zenga Italy 28 April 1960 Wolverhampton Wanderers Championship 30 July 2016 82 days [92] Uwe Rösler Germany 15 November 1968 Fleetwood Town League One 30 July 2016 82 days [93] Mark Venus[note 8] England 6 April 1967 Coventry City League One 29 September 2016 21 days [94] Alberto Cavasin Italy 9 January 1956 Leyton Orient League Two 2 October 2016 18 days [95] Bob Bradley United States 3 March 1958 Swansea City Premier League 3 October 2016 17 days [96] Neil Warnock England 1 December 1948 Cardiff City Championship 5 October 2016 15 days [97] Danny Coyne[note 9] Wales 27 August 1973 Shrewsbury Town League One 6 October 2016 14 days [98] Graham Westley England 4 March 1968 Newport County League Two 10 October 2016 10 days [99] Steve Bruce England 31 December 1960 Aston Villa Championship 12 October 2016 8 days [100] Steve McClaren England 3 May 1961 Derby County Championship 12 October 2016 8 days [101] Paul Warne[note 10] England 8 May 1973 Rotherham United Championship 19 October 2016 1 day [102]
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So after Wenger over 20 years in charge of Arsenal DC is now in the top twenty of longest serving managers/coaches
Managers Paul Tisdale 14 January 1973 Exeter City League Two 26 June 2006 10 years, 116 days Karl Robinson 13 September 1980 Milton Keynes Dons League One 10 May 2010 6 years, 163 days Paul Hurst 25 September 1974 Grimsby Town League Two 23 March 2011 5 years, 211 days Jim Bentley 11 June 1976 Morecambe League Two 13 May 2011 5 years, 160 days Steve Davis 26 July 1965 Crewe Alexandra League Two 10 November 2011 4 years, 345 days Gareth Ainsworth 10 May 1973 Wycombe Wanderers League Two 24 September 2012 4 years, 26 days Neal Ardley 1 September 1972 AFC Wimbledon League One 10 October 2012 4 years, 10 days Eddie Howe 29 November 1977 Bournemouth Premier League 12 October 2012 4 years, 7 days Sean Dyche 28 June 1971 Burnley Premier League 30 October 2012 3 years, 356 days Mick McCarthy 7 February 1959 Ipswich Town Championship 1 November 2012 3 years, 354 days Keith Hill 17 May 1969 Rochdale League One 22 January 2013 3 years, 272 days Simon Grayson 19 December 1969 Preston North End Championship 18 February 2013 3 years, 245 days Phil Brown 30 May 1959 Southend United League One 25 March 2013 3 years, 209 days Mark Hughes 1 November 1963 Stoke City Premier League 30 May 2013 3 years, 143 days Aitor Karanka 18 September 1973 Middlesbrough Premier League 13 November 2013 2 years, 342 days David Flitcroft 14 January 1974 Bury League One 9 December 2013 2 years, 316 days Martin Allen 14 August 1965 Barnet League Two 19 March 2014 2 years, 215 days Darrell Clarke 16 December 1977 Bristol Rovers League One 28 March 2014 2 years, 206 days Mauricio Pochettino 2 March 1972 Tottenham Hotspur Premier League 27 May 2014 2 years, 146 days
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Post by laughinggas on Oct 21, 2016 9:01:09 GMT
And the prize for the biggest post goes to
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Post by mangogas15 on Oct 21, 2016 9:39:31 GMT
And the prize for the biggest post goes to Postman Pat
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DC & MT
Oct 21, 2016 9:56:33 GMT
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 21, 2016 9:56:33 GMT
And the prize for the biggest post goes to Peter North?
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Post by c4h10 on Oct 21, 2016 10:18:12 GMT
And the prize for the biggest post goes to I've got a blister on my mouse-wheel finger!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2016 11:36:59 GMT
(leaving MT to one side for a minute), I firmly believe managers and clubs work best when they are best suited to each other. You can't programme this into any Fifa module. Although, I must admit, I have absolutely no scientific evidence to support this! It's just I feel DC and his management team suit the fabric and culture of us, and vice versa. And also, so does Wael. It also goes without saying, not every manager in the world would suit us. Sure, there is nothing wrong with ambition and trying to better yourself, and I'm sure no one would ever be vocal against such a move, but the next one DC makes will be crucial. Bigger doesn't necessarily mean better (according to my girlie).. He's got momentum but our fitness and strength in depth is not luck by any stretch. We'd be 7 pts worse off without recent late goals Fitness and strength in depth aren't things you can deliver with immediate impact to rescue a club from relegation, though (as we know).
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Post by nailseagas36 on Oct 21, 2016 11:38:22 GMT
Why would DC want to leave? the board back him 100% the future is looking up for us, new training ground, UWE looking more and more likely ( remember this isn't Mr "watertight contract" Higgs) Wael knows what he is doing, he fits our club perfectly, a real breath of fresh air after our long checkered past.
DC has a good contract and being well paid for his services , he is happy, why leave for a poison chalice elsewhere, you have to look at the club , if they have sacked their manager for bad results, bottom of championship, someone else's squad, unfamiliar board, training staff, physio's etc. Clubs , us included are quick to sack the manager - look our casualty list
Ian Atkins, Paul Trollope, Dave Penney,Paul Buckle,Mark McGhee,John Ward.
they all come as the next great white hope for our club, we would regain our lost glory, shut the red scum across the river up and go on to bigger and better things.
as mentioned before, sometimes a club and manager are perfect for each other, DC gets what it means to be a Gashead "print that you ...." or celebrating in the pub with the fans.
where else would you find manager, president drinking with the fans apart from some official club function , it was genuine passion. Wael at MK don's on Tuesday, not in a corporate box hiding away sipping sparkling wine or brandy in £1000 suite, jeans and top in the stands, celebrating with the rest of the travelling support on a dark Tuesday in October.
DC is staying unless someone top half of the prem come along for him!
as for MT, not so sure, he will have a release clause, and someone is bound to come in January with a silly offer, he is a striker on form and scoring for fun, we won't break the bank ( we can't because of FFP rules to keep him) we can but hope the passion he has show and love of the club means more than money.
said before he has the chance to cement his name in history with us, be up there with best in our history, imagine coming from the bottom rung of football and winning 3/4 or even dare imagine 5 promotions with the same club
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2016 11:40:06 GMT
Without quoting that big post, or peering too hard at its slab of text, if DC's in the top 20, as it says at the start, why does it say [21] after his name? And why does it go up to [102]?
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Post by mangogas15 on Oct 21, 2016 11:49:00 GMT
DC had 8 games to keep us up but didn't really make an impact properly til late 2014. The turning point was the 3-2 win v Gateshead, winning a game we looked like losing. Same again last season, turning point 4-1 home defeat by newport. This season everything he has worked towards has come together
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GasMacc1
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Post by GasMacc1 on Oct 21, 2016 13:09:18 GMT
Without quoting that big post, or peering too hard at its slab of text, if DC's in the top 20, as it says at the start, why does it say [21] after his name? And why does it go up to [102]? I guess the numbers in brackets are references to footnotes, in whatever source [wiki?] the text was copied from. Some lucky managers (Hurst of Grimsby, Ainsworth of Wycombe) have two footnote references against their names.
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LincsBlue
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Post by LincsBlue on Oct 22, 2016 17:30:26 GMT
Without quoting that big post, or peering too hard at its slab of text, if DC's in the top 20, as it says at the start, why does it say [21] after his name? And why does it go up to [102]? Because he's in the top 20 IF you discount A. Wenger
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Post by brizzle on Oct 22, 2016 18:55:22 GMT
Rather than concern myself with what may happen in the future to the manager and Matty Taylor, I'm enjoying the present moment safe in the knowledge that the club has a professional structure in place, and that any change to that structure will be dealt with seamlessly. Keep calm and carry on. UTG.
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Post by mangogas15 on Oct 23, 2016 7:45:51 GMT
We have a lot of clubs who run well when its going well in this country but look at bolton, cardiff,leeds and charlton to see what can also happen. Going well so far agreed
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Post by tanksfull on Oct 23, 2016 8:33:30 GMT
But if you're 2nd bottom of any table if you concede first your natural reaction is 's***, here we go again' not 'it's not a problem there is plenty of time left', we have 2+ years of confidence behind us so cn cope with an early setback. Think it will be an important consideration for anyone signing DC. So here's another debate. Is 3-3 better than 0-0? 3-3 every time; but not every game following the same pattern please! It's quite nice to have a few straightforward wins every now and again. In fact it would be nice for that to be the norm and then the odd excitment.
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