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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2014 19:39:47 GMT
I really don't know why we are even discussing a new stadium, personally I'd rather the whole thing would roll itself up and disappear. We are a Conference club, we don't need a 22000 seat stadium, we need something smaller than what we've got, we need to concentrate on the team that is our product and is what people pay money to watch...they won't pay to watch a stadium being built or stand empty as a monument to egotistical folly. If we go ahead with the ludicrous scheme I forecast with great regret our complete demise within 5 years.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2014 19:57:21 GMT
I really don't know why we are even discussing a new stadium, personally I'd rather the whole thing would roll itself up and disappear. We are a Conference club, we don't need a 22000 seat stadium, we need something smaller than what we've got, we need to concentrate on the team that is our product and is what people pay money to watch...they won't pay to watch a stadium being built or stand empty as a monument to egotistical folly. If we go ahead with the ludicrous scheme I forecast with great regret our complete demise within 5 years. Think you need to get a grip - no stadium, no future simples !
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2014 20:15:29 GMT
You need to get a grip, if we'd spent less time worrying about a mythical new stadium we'd still be in the Football League. If we waste next season worrying about a mythical new stadium we'll be relegated again. Unfortunately my forecasts last year about the effect of this nonsense were true, I don't want to be proved correct again. If we must sell to Sainsburys we'd be better off doing a ground share with Bath, understanding where we sit in the scheme of football things, forget about a 22000(what a joke) seater stadium and concentrate on Conference Premiership survival. ps will we be able to even field 11 contracted professionals for game 1?
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Post by Sean (Clevedon Gas) on Jun 1, 2014 20:18:36 GMT
Monsters are mythical aren't they?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2014 20:25:21 GMT
Monsters are mythical aren't they? I'm named after "The New Stadium"
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Post by aghast on Jun 1, 2014 20:39:49 GMT
You need to get a grip, if we'd spent less time worrying about a mythical new stadium we'd still be in the Football League. If we waste next season worrying about a mythical new stadium we'll be relegated again. Unfortunately my forecasts last year about the effect of this nonsense were true, I don't want to be proved correct again. If we must sell to Sainsburys we'd be better off doing a ground share with Bath, understanding where we sit in the scheme of football things, forget about a 22000(what a joke) seater stadium and concentrate on Conference Premiership survival. ps will we be able to even field 11 contracted professionals for game 1? I don't know if you're being serious. You seem to be. Imagine if the next press release from the club was: "Due to our current non-league status and reduced budget, we have decided to put plans for the UWE stadium on hold. We are selling the Memorial Stadium to Sainsbury's with immediate effect and will, for the coming season, ground-share with Bath City, which many Gasheads remember with fondness. The Board will hold onto the funds from the sale of the Mem until our longer-term status becomes clearer. Some of this money will be used for strengthening our squad, and some will be reserved for future stadium proposals." There would be riots in the streets, a mass exodus of fans and the club would sink into oblivion.
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Post by lostinspace on Jun 1, 2014 20:47:50 GMT
Monsters are mythical aren't they? I'm named after "The New Stadium" i hadn't realised the naming rights were being issued, well done you
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2014 20:57:13 GMT
You need to get a grip, if we'd spent less time worrying about a mythical new stadium we'd still be in the Football League. If we waste next season worrying about a mythical new stadium we'll be relegated again. Unfortunately my forecasts last year about the effect of this nonsense were true, I don't want to be proved correct again. If we must sell to Sainsburys we'd be better off doing a ground share with Bath, understanding where we sit in the scheme of football things, forget about a 22000(what a joke) seater stadium and concentrate on Conference Premiership survival. ps will we be able to even field 11 contracted professionals for game 1? I don't know if you're being serious. You seem to be. Imagine if the next press release from the club was: "Due to our current non-league status and reduced budget, we have decided to put plans for the UWE stadium on hold. We are selling the Memorial Stadium to Sainsbury's with immediate effect and will, for the coming season, ground-share with Bath City, which many Gasheads remember with fondness. The Board will hold onto the funds from the sale of the Mem until our longer-term status becomes clearer. Some of this money will be used for strengthening our squad, and some will be reserved for future stadium proposals." There would be riots in the streets, a mass exodus of fans and the club would sink into oblivion. The really odd thing is whenever I talk to Gas who don't frequent forums they all, to a man, ridicule the pre occupation with a 'New Stadium', they all get it, BRFC isn't about a ******* stadium, it's about our existence as a Football a League club...which we no longer are. You worry about a 'New Stadium' 22000(give me strength) seater, I'll concentrate my thoughts on 1)Conference Premier survival...not a given by any means. 2)Will we have enough players for a team and full bench at the start of the season. 3)Promotion to the FL
Riots on the streets?...only by the kind of infantile, immature Richard heads who disgraced us on the day we surrendered our Football League status. it really is time to understand the total disaster that has happened to us, things cannot continue as if nothing has changed, including the fantasy that we are going to have a 'New Stadium'
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Post by swissgas on Jun 1, 2014 20:57:20 GMT
I really don't know why we are even discussing a new stadium, personally I'd rather the whole thing would roll itself up and disappear. We are a Conference club, we don't need a 22000 seat stadium, we need something smaller than what we've got, we need to concentrate on the team that is our product and is what people pay money to watch...they won't pay to watch a stadium being built or stand empty as a monument to egotistical folly. If we go ahead with the ludicrous scheme I forecast with great regret our complete demise within 5 years. Think you need to get a grip - no stadium, no future simples ! But how do all the clubs with no new stadium survive and prosper ?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2014 21:01:14 GMT
I'm named after "The New Stadium" i hadn't realised the naming rights were being issued, well done you Thank you...but as the Monstermonster Fantasy Football Stadium, capacity 22000, will never be built I'll not need to pay for the privilege of seeing my name in lights above the door
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Post by lincolnfan on Jun 1, 2014 21:03:15 GMT
Cannot say about the rights and wrongs of it but presumably the people opposed to the stadium are following the democratic process as they perceive it as far as they can. Just as your club are pursuing Wycombe/FA et al with the democratic process because that is the way your club perceive it and believe in your cause.
One of the great tragedies of democracy, I have found, is that it is not quite so much fun if it annoys you or you lose.
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Post by Bridgeman on Jun 1, 2014 21:03:47 GMT
i hadn't realised the naming rights were being issued, well done you Thank you...but as the Monstermonster Fantasy Football Stadium, capacity 22000, will never be built I'll not need to pay for the privilege of seeing my name in lights above the door Sorry lights and doors have been cut from the project to save money
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Post by Bridgeman on Jun 1, 2014 21:08:37 GMT
Cannot say about the rights and wrongs of it but presumably the people opposed to the stadium are following the democratic process as they perceive it as far as they can. Just as your club are pursuing Wycombe/FA et al with the democratic process because that is the way your club perceive it and believe in your cause. One of the great tragedies of democracy, I have found, is that it is not quite so much fun if it annoys you or you lose. Poetic justice I reckon
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Post by swissgas on Jun 1, 2014 21:13:45 GMT
I just looked at the stats for 2013/14
Premiership six out of the top 10 did not have new grounds
Championship five out of the top 10 did not have new grounds
League 1 seven out of the top 10 did not have new grounds
League 2 six out of the top 10 did not have new grounds
And I am going back over 25 years to the time when Glanford Park was built when classifying grounds as new.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2014 21:19:03 GMT
depends what you call a new ground,Old Trafford is nothing like it used to be,but is still old trafford. Revamped stadiums are like having a new one.
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Post by swissgas on Jun 1, 2014 21:29:18 GMT
depends what you call a new ground,Old Trafford is nothing like it used to be,but is still old trafford. Revamped stadiums are like having a new one. Yes I agree and that begs the question about why the Mem has been allowed to deteriorate to the point where Nick Higgs declared it "not fit for purpose" What purpose ? For the purpose of being home to a successful league 1 team with occasional forays into the Championship it could have been made perfectly fit for purpose. But to help in getting the club sold so the owners can have their money back it may not be fit for purpose.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2014 21:41:21 GMT
depends what you call a new ground,Old Trafford is nothing like it used to be,but is still old trafford. Revamped stadiums are like having a new one. Yes I agree and that begs the question about why the Mem has been allowed to deteriorate to the point where Nick Higgs declared it "not fit for purpose" What purpose ? For the purpose of being home to a successful league 1 team with occasional forays into the Championship it could have been made perfectly fit for purpose. But to help in getting the club sold so the owners can have their money back it may not be fit for purpose. Can you imagine a situation where we are top of Div 2, 8-10000 for every home game and Fortress Mem, promotion, challenging for play offs, 10-12000 for every home game, season tickets sold out and a waiting list. but hey, let's concentrate on a 'New Stadium' something we can really go places with.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2014 21:41:32 GMT
depends what you call a new ground,Old Trafford is nothing like it used to be,but is still old trafford. Revamped stadiums are like having a new one. Yes I agree and that begs the question about why the Mem has been allowed to deteriorate to the point where Nick Higgs declared it "not fit for purpose" What purpose ? For the purpose of being home to a successful league 1 team with occasional forays into the Championship it could have been made perfectly fit for purpose. But to help in getting the club sold so the owners can have their money back it may not be fit for purpose. Yes in a way but no in another, as a visit to the Championship would have meant that plans had to be in place to make it all seater? (the five year plan, I take it is still in place).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2014 21:42:56 GMT
Has it deteriorated,it was crap when we moved in,we have put a roof over the Blackthorne,and the temporary stand or tent at the other end. I think the "not fit for purpose" comment was more to bolster the UWE bid. I personally can't wait to leave the place,never felt like home to me
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Post by swissgas on Jun 1, 2014 22:18:35 GMT
Twenty five years ago I was all for a new stadium but I've learned a lot in that time which is why I keep coming back to the point about getting the most out of the assets we've got. The Mem was a basis to build from in 1998 but it was never really developed as part of any long term plan and I think that's the main reason it never felt like home. Nick has admitted the UWE plan was dropped in his lap and the concept seems almost too good to be true until you consider what else is involved other than swapping an old "not fit for purpose" stadium for a brand new "fit for purpose" one.
My own view is that it will take a great deal more resources, financial and otherwise, than the board have planned for to get the project completed and up and running. If that is the case I think it's better we hear about it sooner rather than later and the whole review, restructuring and whatever else is needed is done in one wash up with the fans fully included in the process.
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