kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 20, 2016 9:15:03 GMT
Fully delegated. Good news. It is such a different world with Steve Hamer and the people that he and Wael have employed but you know what K , I still think there will be some that will be moaning. This is fantastic news and goes to show there is lots going on in the background and that this administration are doers rather than talkers and also, if you ask a direct question ( obviously not on a public forum) that you will get a direct answer. I would imagine this is not good from Mr McNamara. What a huge difference to the last lot eh
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Post by tanksfull on Sept 20, 2016 9:19:23 GMT
Fully delegated. Good news. It is such a different world with Steve Hamer and the people that he and Wael have employed but you know what K , I still think there will be some that will be moaning. This is fantastic news and goes to show there is lots going on in the background and that this administration are doers rather than talkers and also, if you ask a direct question ( obviously not on a public forum) that you will get a direct answer. I would imagine this is not good from Mr McNamara. What a huge difference to the last lot eh Has this fantastic news been announced yet? Specifically I mean. I'm assuming the land will be purchased subject to planning? That's NOT a moan.
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Post by theeyeofaneedle on Sept 20, 2016 9:48:47 GMT
I used to live in Hanham for 25 years so know the area well....In fact I used to take my son aged 8-10 to Bristol City Academy training at St Katherines School in Pill for 530pm...so am fully aware of difficult journeys. Then when he was 10-13 to Rovers School of Excellence at UWE and Chipping Sodbury School 7pm once a week ...again a real journey from Hanham. Delighted Rovers appear to have got themselves a training base.I do recall attending the WISE Centre opening at Filton during the Trollope era and still regularly go there all these years later and see BCFC signs everywhere....makes me jealous how they took it all over.... Have you ever wondered how BCFC did manage to take it all over? Don't bother it's gone now but nobody bothered asking at the time.
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Post by theeyeofaneedle on Sept 20, 2016 9:53:44 GMT
How did Bristol Sport Football Club take over the WISE? Very easy, years ago a young man by the name of Simon Panes, who once played for them & is one of them, became a sporting director at this organisation. The rest is history!! The previous administration let this be taken from right under their noses, hindsight is a wonderful thing......
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Post by gastower on Sept 20, 2016 9:56:18 GMT
The director of sport at Filton is Simon Panes who went out of his way to spoil our relationship with the WISE centre when we were there The reason ? he is a big s**thead
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Post by captain1883 on Sept 20, 2016 11:43:50 GMT
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Post by pirateer on Sept 20, 2016 11:47:32 GMT
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Sept 20, 2016 16:35:10 GMT
So, to paraphrase Life of Brian, can we safely assume that losing SGS College and WISE was no one's fault, not event Higgs'?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2016 17:54:10 GMT
Simon was there before Rovers were. He certainly didn't command much influence when the "partnership" was announced. I guess things changed after the "tip top" training pitches failed to materialise. They look bloody lovely now mind.
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Post by Peter Parker on Sept 22, 2016 8:32:46 GMT
Bristol Rovers' commitment to developing homegrown players is central in their plans to identify and develop a new training facility. The club confirmed last week that they had identified a 29-acre site that has since been revealed as land at Colony Farm in Hortham Lane, Almondsbury. South Gloucestershire Council planning documents have confirmed that permission to develop the site has already been granted as part of a historical application and the club is currently awaiting a decision on whether two conditions that formed part of the original request can be removed before they follow through on the proposal. Speaking at a supporters Q&A session almost a fortnight ago, chairman Steve Hamer revealed that the club would be seeking to develop facilities that would eventually see the club become eligible to apply for Category Two Academy status under the Elite Player Performance Programme. They would initially move to the site holding Category 3 status but what would they need to do to upgrade and what else do we know about Category 2 Academy status? What is Category 2 Academy status? There are four academy categories, with one being the highest rating and four being the lowest as part of the Elite Player Performance Plan (EPPP). Forming and maintaining Category 2 Academy status requires a substantial financial and organisational commitment from any club. Rovers would have to fulfil a specific set of criteria in terms of facilities available and quality of programmes designed to develop promising young players. All applicants are assessed by a Premier League audit committee, who rigorously assess the function of the Academy in areas such as: vision and values; coaching programmes; sports science and medicine; recruitment; education and welfare; facilities; finance and productivity. How much does it cost? The cost rises in line with the status of the academy. The recommended budget guidelines suggest a Category 1 Academy should spend £2.3m per year, while a Category 3 club's recommended spending is only £500,000. Coventry City spend around £600,000 per year to run their Category 2 status centre but the Premier League add a grant of around £500,000 to help with running costs. Championship side Huddersfield Town spend £1.5m per year on their academy. What facilities would be needed at the new training ground? Any new facility would need an indoor football area, an outdoor floodlit 3G pitch, grass pitches, and classroom and office space to meet both Category 2 and Category 3 Academy status. The Academy has to be granted exclusivity of use to facilities at certain times in order to carry out the various training and coaching programmes for all age-group sides between Under 8s and Under 21s. There are guidelines on the minimum amount of hours that have to be spent coaching youngsters to meet the criteria set out by the EPPP rules. What are the benefits of Category 2 Academy status? The higher the academy status a club has the better the opposition they can pit their youngsters against in development matches. Rovers would also be better protected against the poaching of their players by 'bigger' clubs as has happened in the past. In the event that a player was persuaded to leave and join another club, Category 2 Status would at least see Rovers receive a greater financial remuneration under the compensation guidelines set out under the compensation guidelines set out under EPPP. image: www.bristolpost.co.uk/images/localworld/ugc-images/276268/binaries/linescardiff.JPG
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2016 8:50:48 GMT
Would we be able to play ourselves in the FLT?
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Post by Peter Parker on Sept 23, 2016 6:58:58 GMT
It appears some of the NIMBY's are revolting (Almondbury Parish Council)with a detailed objection
Comment Details Commenter Type: Parish Council Stance: Customer objects to the Planning Application Comment Reasons: Comment:APC feel the removal of conditions 7 and 13 will affect the local residents and object to the removal of these conditions, APC want these original conditions to remain.
and this beauty
Comment Details Commenter Type: Neighbour Stance: Customer objects to the Planning Application Comment Reasons: Comment:Distraction for the M5/M4 motorway users particularly during the hours of darkness or inclement weather when the site will be using flood lights. Interference for the new Police and Air Ambulance base being proposed for Almondsbury. Significant increase in noise levels with the planned use of floodlit operations and from the clubhouse, carpark and store. Clubhouse also implies an element of social activity leading to the increase in noise levels from customers and their vehicles. Significant increase in traffic using Hortham Lane which is mainly a residential area
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Post by Smithy Gas on Sept 23, 2016 8:52:34 GMT
It appears some of the NIMBY's are revolting (Almondbury Parish Council)with a detailed objection Comment Details Commenter Type: Parish Council Stance: Customer objects to the Planning Application Comment Reasons: Comment:APC feel the removal of conditions 7 and 13 will affect the local residents and object to the removal of these conditions, APC want these original conditions to remain. and this beauty Comment Details Commenter Type: Neighbour Stance: Customer objects to the Planning Application Comment Reasons: Comment:Distraction for the M5/M4 motorway users particularly during the hours of darkness or inclement weather when the site will be using flood lights. Interference for the new Police and Air Ambulance base being proposed for Almondsbury. Significant increase in noise levels with the planned use of floodlit operations and from the clubhouse, carpark and store. Clubhouse also implies an element of social activity leading to the increase in noise levels from customers and their vehicles. Significant increase in traffic using Hortham Lane which is mainly a residential area Loving the fact the last one doesn't know that there is a planning permission in place for all of these things already. Brilliant.
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Post by matealotblue on Sept 23, 2016 9:15:01 GMT
Soon be time for Radish to come out of the woodwork along with her serial moaning clueless geezer mate - whose name I have forgotten.
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Post by Finnish Gas on Sept 23, 2016 10:16:36 GMT
It appears some of the NIMBY's are revolting (Almondbury Parish Council)with a detailed objection Comment Details Commenter Type: Parish Council Stance: Customer objects to the Planning Application Comment Reasons: Comment:APC feel the removal of conditions 7 and 13 will affect the local residents and object to the removal of these conditions, APC want these original conditions to remain. Looks like a submission from Dibley Parish Council? vicarofdibley.wikia.com/wiki/The_Dibley_Parish_councilIn planning terms the objection is a nonsense.
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Post by harrybuckle on Sept 23, 2016 11:17:55 GMT
Suspect the local scouts HQ will complain about too much traffic stopping their boys safely crossing the A38 !
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 15:23:46 GMT
I think NIMBY is flattering it. This is the 'nothing must ever change and here's a chance for me to be a whingeing pain in the arse so I will instinctively come up with any old tosh to take it' brigade. (The acronym's not so catchy).
I don't want to put words in anyone's mouth or tell anyone what to do, but maybe our local correspondent could bang in a supportive comment, as a near neighbour, welcoming the fact that the requested mild change of use, from multiple amateur pitches to a professional club training ground, will result in less traffic, at least at certain otherwise peak times of activity, than if the original plans were fully developed; and that the change in hours will result in that traffic being at a better time of day.
Re the daft comment about the (already approved and not dependent on this application) clubhouse and its implied social aspect, I still think that we will want to change the agreed plan for the 'clubhouse' and wonder* why that isn't running concurrently. It would at least fend that nonsense off (irrelevant though it is).
* I mean that genuinely, not as an implication that they're doing it wrong: I assume they know better than I do, and wonder what I'm missing.
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Post by Smithy Gas on Sept 23, 2016 15:48:46 GMT
I think NIMBY is flattering it. This is the 'nothing must ever change and here's a chance for me to be a whingeing pain in the arse so I will instinctively come up with any old tosh to take it' brigade. (The acronym's not so catchy). I don't want to put words in anyone's mouth or tell anyone what to do, but maybe our local correspondent could bang in a supportive comment, as a near neighbour, welcoming the fact that the requested mild change of use, from multiple amateur pitches to a professional club training ground, will result in less traffic, at least at certain otherwise peak times of activity, than if the original plans were fully developed; and that the change in hours will result in that traffic being at a better time of day. Re the daft comment about the (already approved and not dependent on this application) clubhouse and its implied social aspect, I still think that we will want to change the agreed plan for the 'clubhouse' and wonder* why that isn't running concurrently. It would at least fend that nonsense off (irrelevant though it is). * I mean that genuinely, not as an implication that they're doing it wrong: I assume they know better than I do, and wonder what I'm missing. I would assume its generally along the lines of just because you have planning for something, it doesn't mean you have to go ahead with it. So whilst we probably need the "building" that the clubhouse currently has planning for, we don't have to kit out said shell with a bar, TV and pickled onions. Thus we then have planning for a shell of sorts which we can then fit out internally to our needs which are more aligned with a football club academy and training base rather than a social club attached to some pitches.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 16:09:52 GMT
Double post
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 16:10:13 GMT
I think NIMBY is flattering it. This is the 'nothing must ever change and here's a chance for me to be a whingeing pain in the arse so I will instinctively come up with any old tosh to take it' brigade. (The acronym's not so catchy). I don't want to put words in anyone's mouth or tell anyone what to do, but maybe our local correspondent could bang in a supportive comment, as a near neighbour, welcoming the fact that the requested mild change of use, from multiple amateur pitches to a professional club training ground, will result in less traffic, at least at certain otherwise peak times of activity, than if the original plans were fully developed; and that the change in hours will result in that traffic being at a better time of day. Re the daft comment about the (already approved and not dependent on this application) clubhouse and its implied social aspect, I still think that we will want to change the agreed plan for the 'clubhouse' and wonder* why that isn't running concurrently. It would at least fend that nonsense off (irrelevant though it is). * I mean that genuinely, not as an implication that they're doing it wrong: I assume they know better than I do, and wonder what I'm missing. I would assume its generally along the lines of just because you have planning for something, it doesn't mean you have to go ahead with it. So whilst we probably need the "building" that the clubhouse currently has planning for, we don't have to kit out said shell with a bar, TV and pickled onions. Thus we then have planning for a shell of sorts which we can then fit out internally to our needs which are more aligned with a football club academy and training base rather than a social club attached to some pitches. You have to specify floor plans of buildings, and there are building regs and the like with which that has to comply; you can't just say that there will be a building of x size, within which stuff will happen. Likewise, even if we built it with the rooms / showers / corridors / khazis / fire escapes etc. as currently specified, we couldn't then use it as an abattoir, massage parlour, or place of worship. Granted, pickled onions are a level of detail beyond, so we're home and dry on that one.
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