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Mar 31, 2016 15:42:15 GMT
Post by Peter Parker on Mar 31, 2016 15:42:15 GMT
How was Cureton's transfer sorted. didn't he play the first game of next season for us?
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Post by badbloodash on Mar 31, 2016 17:05:12 GMT
I'll bow to your superior knowledge because in 2000 I could barely see over the advertising boards whereas you probably already had a great understanding of the game, but for me it goes a lot deeper than the midfield injuries that we went from Champions elect to losing to already relegated teams. No problem with players moving on to bigger teams/more money,if Lee Brown had moved on after our relegation season he would've got a decent reception from me the next time he played against us, but for me it seems like both Cuerton and Roberts decided that Rovers not getting promotion was advantageous to their careers and thus their not getting a clap from me. I was 35/36 & I would agree with you. There was a section on football focus and both players were on it. It had them interviewed and Cyril Regis ( Roberts Uncle) was on there and both players were talking about furthering their careers. It was after that interview that we started doing very poorly, we also had Mauge badly injured and no one experienced brought into replace him. We won the one game in the last 11 & that, ironically? Was V the 82. It looked very much like a team that had lost desire/fight/will or all 3. It was a capitulation that I certainly have not witnessed before nor since and, let's face it, we have seen some very poor teams that have represented the Rovers, since we dropped into the basement of the football league, for the first time in our history. I actually felt so disgusted by that performance that I stopped going until 2006. I even started to believe the conspiracy theories and that we couldn't afford to go up. There were stories of Ollie falling out with Cureton and I still can't understand how we got over a million for Roberts but only 250K or less for Cureton. It beggars belief what went on in that season and I still have my suspicions on it even now. It was shameful in any case and however I spin it. We couldn't even manage the draw at Cardiff, in the final game, to make the play offs. It will remain one of those things that we can debate over the years as I have spoken to Ollie about it and I feel he does not want to discuss it either. I am laughing as I write this as I realise that it still winds me up. I didn't think that was the case anymore. I do believe there was more to it than we will ever know about it though That fateful day will stay with me to my grave at 3pm I was top of the evening post dream team completion 10 points clear all I needed was a clean sheet or cure ton or Roberts to score for two grand by 5pm I had a couple of teeth kicked out and a damaged knee after being a straggler and being ambushed by the soul crew and some s**t head pipped me by 5 points to win the money I wouldn't have minded so much if we had scrapped into the play offs but this b'stard had forty teams in it not sure what went on but I'm good friends with Jamie's mum and stepdad so never really heard the full story I'd like to think he would never deliberatley not give 100% not sure sure about Roberts though
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Mar 31, 2016 18:20:59 GMT
Post by brizzle on Mar 31, 2016 18:20:59 GMT
The story going the rounds back then was Regis told both players he could get them big money moves close season so don't do anything stupid and get banned or injured That's exactly what I was told at the time, and what I have always believed to be true. I believe that there was also a story in the local press about Uncle Cyrille's involvement in it all. But it was all a long time ago now.
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Post by Rex on Mar 31, 2016 19:12:30 GMT
I was 35/36 & I would agree with you. There was a section on football focus and both players were on it. It had them interviewed and Cyril Regis ( Roberts Uncle) was on there and both players were talking about furthering their careers. It was after that interview that we started doing very poorly, we also had Mauge badly injured and no one experienced brought into replace him. We won the one game in the last 11 & that, ironically? Was V the 82. It looked very much like a team that had lost desire/fight/will or all 3. It was a capitulation that I certainly have not witnessed before nor since and, let's face it, we have seen some very poor teams that have represented the Rovers, since we dropped into the basement of the football league, for the first time in our history. I actually felt so disgusted by that performance that I stopped going until 2006. I even started to believe the conspiracy theories and that we couldn't afford to go up. There were stories of Ollie falling out with Cureton and I still can't understand how we got over a million for Roberts but only 250K or less for Cureton. It beggars belief what went on in that season and I still have my suspicions on it even now. It was shameful in any case and however I spin it. We couldn't even manage the draw at Cardiff, in the final game, to make the play offs. It will remain one of those things that we can debate over the years as I have spoken to Ollie about it and I feel he does not want to discuss it either. I am laughing as I write this as I realise that it still winds me up. I didn't think that was the case anymore. I do believe there was more to it than we will ever know about it though That fateful day will stay with me to my grave at 3pm I was top of the evening post dream team completion 10 points clear all I needed was a clean sheet or cure ton or Roberts to score for two grand by 5pm I had a couple of teeth kicked out and a damaged knee after being a straggler and being ambushed by the soul crew and some s*** head pipped me by 5 points to win the money I wouldn't have minded so much if we had scrapped into the play offs but this b****** had forty teams in it not sure what went on but I'm good friends with Jamie's mum and stepdad so never really heard the full story I'd like to think he would never deliberatley not give 100% not sure sure about Roberts though I remember seeing you in the ground just after you got jumped- weird day all round. The sheer numbers of Cardiff fans trying to break through the police to get at us in the car park was unreal, and at one point I really couldn't see us getting out in one piece. Me and a couple of mates (and Reg) went back to The Trident after and just sat there in disbelief about the whole day and how we had managed to f**k up the whole season. In it's context, I think it was the single worst performance I have ever seen by a Rovers side, Cardiff went 1 up after 20 odd minutes, and by then it was obvious to anyone in the ground that it was all over. Totally spineless, gutless show by Rovers (and not just by the scapegoats)
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Mar 31, 2016 23:36:53 GMT
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 31, 2016 23:36:53 GMT
I was 35/36 & I would agree with you. There was a section on football focus and both players were on it. It had them interviewed and Cyril Regis ( Roberts Uncle) was on there and both players were talking about furthering their careers. It was after that interview that we started doing very poorly, we also had Mauge badly injured and no one experienced brought into replace him. We won the one game in the last 11 & that, ironically? Was V the 82. It looked very much like a team that had lost desire/fight/will or all 3. It was a capitulation that I certainly have not witnessed before nor since and, let's face it, we have seen some very poor teams that have represented the Rovers, since we dropped into the basement of the football league, for the first time in our history. I actually felt so disgusted by that performance that I stopped going until 2006. I even started to believe the conspiracy theories and that we couldn't afford to go up. There were stories of Ollie falling out with Cureton and I still can't understand how we got over a million for Roberts but only 250K or less for Cureton. It beggars belief what went on in that season and I still have my suspicions on it even now. It was shameful in any case and however I spin it. We couldn't even manage the draw at Cardiff, in the final game, to make the play offs. It will remain one of those things that we can debate over the years as I have spoken to Ollie about it and I feel he does not want to discuss it either. I am laughing as I write this as I realise that it still winds me up. I didn't think that was the case anymore. I do believe there was more to it than we will ever know about it though That fateful day will stay with me to my grave at 3pm I was top of the evening post dream team completion 10 points clear all I needed was a clean sheet or cure ton or Roberts to score for two grand by 5pm I had a couple of teeth kicked out and a damaged knee after being a straggler and being ambushed by the soul crew and some s*** head pipped me by 5 points to win the money I wouldn't have minded so much if we had scrapped into the play offs but this b****** had forty teams in it not sure what went on but I'm good friends with Jamie's mum and stepdad so never really heard the full story I'd like to think he would never deliberatley not give 100% not sure sure about Roberts though I was gutted when I heard about that kicking mate. I was told you signed yourself out of hospital and got back to Bristol next day. I know what it's like to be a straggler and told the story on here but I got sanctuary in a house where an older couple let me lay low. Doubly gutting for you.
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Apr 1, 2016 11:20:18 GMT
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Post by DudeLebowski on Apr 1, 2016 11:20:18 GMT
Up there with Stewie as one of my Rovers hero's! Didn't you play alongside him in the legends match mate? I did indeed. Alongside Jason Roberts too, what a day!
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Post by gashead1979 on Apr 1, 2016 11:29:58 GMT
I'll bow to your superior knowledge because in 2000 I could barely see over the advertising boards whereas you probably already had a great understanding of the game, but for me it goes a lot deeper than the midfield injuries that we went from Champions elect to losing to already relegated teams. No problem with players moving on to bigger teams/more money,if Lee Brown had moved on after our relegation season he would've got a decent reception from me the next time he played against us, but for me it seems like both Cuerton and Roberts decided that Rovers not getting promotion was advantageous to their careers and thus their not getting a clap from me. I was 35/36 & I would agree with you. There was a section on football focus and both players were on it. It had them interviewed and Cyril Regis ( Roberts Uncle) was on there and both players were talking about furthering their careers. It was after that interview that we started doing very poorly, we also had Mauge badly injured and no one experienced brought into replace him. We won the one game in the last 11 & that, ironically? Was V the 82. It looked very much like a team that had lost desire/fight/will or all 3. It was a capitulation that I certainly have not witnessed before nor since and, let's face it, we have seen some very poor teams that have represented the Rovers, since we dropped into the basement of the football league, for the first time in our history. I actually felt so disgusted by that performance that I stopped going until 2006. I even started to believe the conspiracy theories and that we couldn't afford to go up. There were stories of Ollie falling out with Cureton and I still can't understand how we got over a million for Roberts but only 250K or less for Cureton. It beggars belief what went on in that season and I still have my suspicions on it even now. It was shameful in any case and however I spin it. We couldn't even manage the draw at Cardiff, in the final game, to make the play offs. It will remain one of those things that we can debate over the years as I have spoken to Ollie about it and I feel he does not want to discuss it either. I am laughing as I write this as I realise that it still winds me up. I didn't think that was the case anymore. I do believe there was more to it than we will ever know about it though
This is what makes me think something else went on behind the scenes. To think we only got back our outlay in his transfer fee after all those goals and performances for us over 2 years leaves a bitter taste in the mouth, especially selling to leave rivals at the time.
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Apr 1, 2016 16:30:44 GMT
Post by brizzle on Apr 1, 2016 16:30:44 GMT
I was 35/36 & I would agree with you. There was a section on football focus and both players were on it. It had them interviewed and Cyril Regis ( Roberts Uncle) was on there and both players were talking about furthering their careers. It was after that interview that we started doing very poorly, we also had Mauge badly injured and no one experienced brought into replace him. We won the one game in the last 11 & that, ironically? Was V the 82. It looked very much like a team that had lost desire/fight/will or all 3. It was a capitulation that I certainly have not witnessed before nor since and, let's face it, we have seen some very poor teams that have represented the Rovers, since we dropped into the basement of the football league, for the first time in our history. I actually felt so disgusted by that performance that I stopped going until 2006. I even started to believe the conspiracy theories and that we couldn't afford to go up. There were stories of Ollie falling out with Cureton and I still can't understand how we got over a million for Roberts but only 250K or less for Cureton. It beggars belief what went on in that season and I still have my suspicions on it even now. It was shameful in any case and however I spin it. We couldn't even manage the draw at Cardiff, in the final game, to make the play offs. It will remain one of those things that we can debate over the years as I have spoken to Ollie about it and I feel he does not want to discuss it either. I am laughing as I write this as I realise that it still winds me up. I didn't think that was the case anymore. I do believe there was more to it than we will ever know about it though
This is what makes me think something else went on behind the scenes. To think we only got back our outlay in his transfer fee after all those goals and performances for us over 2 years leaves a bitter taste in the mouth, especially selling to leave rivals at the time.
Well, we've reached the elephant in the room scenario now.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 1, 2016 16:51:33 GMT
This is what makes me think something else went on behind the scenes. To think we only got back our outlay in his transfer fee after all those goals and performances for us over 2 years leaves a bitter taste in the mouth, especially selling to leave rivals at the time.
Well, we've reached the elephant in the room scenario now. Most certainly true Brizzle, I've said it before but I get to see Ollie every now and again when I go to get my cat supplies and he just will not be drawn on that particular subject. Ian has become a much less verbose person in that last couple of years and he looks to have aged the last couple of times I have seen him. I guess he must get fed up of people like me though and not being able to go about his own shopping without someone wanting to talk or get an autograph. Maybe he has just become a grumpy curmudgeon, like me lol
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Post by brizzle on Apr 1, 2016 18:22:00 GMT
Well, we've reached the elephant in the room scenario now. Most certainly true Brizzle, I've said it before but I get to see Ollie every now and again when I go to get my cat supplies and he just will not be drawn on that particular subject. Ian has become a much less verbose person in that last couple of years and he looks to have aged the last couple of times I have seen him. I guess he must get fed up of people like me though and not being able to go about his own shopping without someone wanting to talk or get an autograph. Maybe he has just become a grumpy curmudgeon, like me lol Very interesting read that KP, but was Ollie involved in it at all? The version that I heard many years ago said a big fat ''no'' The clue may well be in PP's observation, that Jamie Cureton played the first game of the following season. That was a strange 'un, even for BRFC.
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Apr 1, 2016 19:36:27 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2016 19:36:27 GMT
I was 35/36 & I would agree with you. There was a section on football focus and both players were on it. It had them interviewed and Cyril Regis ( Roberts Uncle) was on there and both players were talking about furthering their careers. It was after that interview that we started doing very poorly, we also had Mauge badly injured and no one experienced brought into replace him. We won the one game in the last 11 & that, ironically? Was V the 82. It looked very much like a team that had lost desire/fight/will or all 3. It was a capitulation that I certainly have not witnessed before nor since and, let's face it, we have seen some very poor teams that have represented the Rovers, since we dropped into the basement of the football league, for the first time in our history. I actually felt so disgusted by that performance that I stopped going until 2006. I even started to believe the conspiracy theories and that we couldn't afford to go up. There were stories of Ollie falling out with Cureton and I still can't understand how we got over a million for Roberts but only 250K or less for Cureton. It beggars belief what went on in that season and I still have my suspicions on it even now. It was shameful in any case and however I spin it. We couldn't even manage the draw at Cardiff, in the final game, to make the play offs. It will remain one of those things that we can debate over the years as I have spoken to Ollie about it and I feel he does not want to discuss it either. I am laughing as I write this as I realise that it still winds me up. I didn't think that was the case anymore. I do believe there was more to it than we will ever know about it though
This is what makes me think something else went on behind the scenes. To think we only got back our outlay in his transfer fee after all those goals and performances for us over 2 years leaves a bitter taste in the mouth, especially selling to leave rivals at the time.
You aren't alone with that opinion and people who were at the very top of BRFC at a the time felt the same but were never able to prove it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2016 19:37:58 GMT
Most certainly true Brizzle, I've said it before but I get to see Ollie every now and again when I go to get my cat supplies and he just will not be drawn on that particular subject. Ian has become a much less verbose person in that last couple of years and he looks to have aged the last couple of times I have seen him. I guess he must get fed up of people like me though and not being able to go about his own shopping without someone wanting to talk or get an autograph. Maybe he has just become a grumpy curmudgeon, like me lol Very interesting read that KP, but was Ollie involved in it at all? The version that I heard many years ago said a big fat ''no'' The clue may well be in PP's observation, that Jamie Cureton played the first game of the following season. That was a strange 'un, even for BRFC. Perhaps GD will express his thoughts on this subject when he writes his book?
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Apr 1, 2016 20:21:05 GMT
Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 1, 2016 20:21:05 GMT
Very interesting read that KP, but was Ollie involved in it at all? The version that I heard many years ago said a big fat ''no'' The clue may well be in PP's observation, that Jamie Cureton played the first game of the following season. That was a strange 'un, even for BRFC. Perhaps GD will express his thoughts on this subject when he writes his book? You naughty boy this is book is going to be a weighty tome if it ever has been ever started. I've had a good laugh in how the implication of it has been used. Whatever my own opinion on GD, he's played a blinder with that
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Apr 2, 2016 16:19:19 GMT
Post by brizzle on Apr 2, 2016 16:19:19 GMT
Very interesting read that KP, but was Ollie involved in it at all? The version that I heard many years ago said a big fat ''no'' The clue may well be in PP's observation, that Jamie Cureton played the first game of the following season. That was a strange 'un, even for BRFC. Perhaps GD will express his thoughts on this subject when he writes his book? A wonderfully cryptic post, teetering on the edge . . . almost.
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Apr 4, 2016 13:41:54 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2016 13:41:54 GMT
Very interesting read that KP, but was Ollie involved in it at all? The version that I heard many years ago said a big fat ''no'' The clue may well be in PP's observation, that Jamie Cureton played the first game of the following season. That was a strange 'un, even for BRFC. Perhaps GD will express his thoughts on this subject when he writes his book? I think that he wasd a persona non grata after the events of the previous season and certain people wanted rid off him as long as we got our outlay back.Spoke to him at Haldanes testimonial and all he would say was they wouldn't pay me what I was worth
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Apr 4, 2016 15:19:17 GMT
Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 4, 2016 15:19:17 GMT
Perhaps GD will express his thoughts on this subject when he writes his book? I think that he wasd a persona non grata after the events of the previous season and certain people wanted rid off him as long as we got our outlay back.Spoke to him at Haldanes testimonial and all he would say was they wouldn't pay me what I was worth He's never been one to have low self esteem eh. I got tired of all the gossip each new season, IMO he used us as a bargaining chip every time. I am glad we never had him back as the expectations would have proved too much and we all know, one p,Ayer doesn't make that difference
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2016 20:23:02 GMT
I think that he wasd a persona non grata after the events of the previous season and certain people wanted rid off him as long as we got our outlay back.Spoke to him at Haldanes testimonial and all he would say was they wouldn't pay me what I was worth He's never been one to have low self esteem eh. I got tired of all the gossip each new season, IMO he used us as a bargaining chip every time. I am glad we never had him back as the expectations would have proved too much and we all know, one p,Ayer doesn't make that difference He wanted to come back after he terminated his contract at Swindon. The cash was there to pay his wages but Paul Trollope didn't want him. Not sure if he has been close to coming back since then.
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