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Post by laughinggas on Mar 26, 2016 18:41:29 GMT
Interesting how views change. If the loan window had closed under the last regime like with no new players in there would have been pages on how DC was not being backed. Now it seems to have passed quietly, or did I miss a thread? DC explained that if the right experienced player was available he would have added him,then named the youth players he would use, is this the way we will progress ? The new owners have not said we will in the championship in 3 years and surely to get promotion this season would be more than they expected Yes heard that, it was an observation about the forum and the mood change. Fickle lot footie fans aren't we? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2016 18:44:53 GMT
DC explained that if the right experienced player was available he would have added him,then named the youth players he would use, is this the way we will progress ? The new owners have not said we will in the championship in 3 years and surely to get promotion this season would be more than they expected Yes heard that, it was an observation about the forum and the mood change. Fickle lot footie fans aren't we? We didn't need another loan player. That's got nothing to do with a change in ownership. |
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Post by laughinggas on Mar 26, 2016 18:56:26 GMT
Bet some think we need a backup keeper and someone for midfield and a left back just in case.
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Post by clockendgas on Mar 26, 2016 19:12:09 GMT
Economically, there is Premiership capacity in Bristol, why not us? If Bournemouth can do it, so can we And of course bristol city!! oh no sorry they didnt make it did they. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2016 19:12:50 GMT
Bet some think we need a backup keeper and someone for midfield and a left back just in case. I'm sure some do, but I'm not sure them not saying so on the forum is indicative of anything other than it not being a very interesting subject, rather than fickleness. |
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Post by stapletongas on Mar 26, 2016 19:25:37 GMT
While I don't ever want Bristol Rovers to lose, and while I don't want the club to go into administration, I can't help thinking we're losing something precious: the Rovers way. Six wins in a row. A positive team ethic. A bit of creative football being played. Owners and directors securing a sustainable future for the club. Owners and directors engaging honestly with simple supporters. A sense of optimism among many of those supporters. Sell-out attendances. Actual stadium plans for which finance might also be viable. This is all very well and good, but it's not the Rovers I've known and supported. Where's the fear, anger, and spite? It's not really the Rovers way. I know we wished for this change at our lowest ebb. But I have to ask myself whether this is really what I want. Now you do too. Is all this really a good thing for Bristol Rovers? (Three letters, first letter 'Y') We need to spare a thought for those who are running out of things to complain about. Times are desperate |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2016 20:38:21 GMT
While I don't ever want Bristol Rovers to lose, and while I don't want the club to go into administration, I can't help thinking we're losing something precious: the Rovers way. Six wins in a row. A positive team ethic. A bit of creative football being played. Owners and directors securing a sustainable future for the club. Owners and directors engaging honestly with simple supporters. A sense of optimism among many of those supporters. Sell-out attendances. Actual stadium plans for which finance might also be viable. This is all very well and good, but it's not the Rovers I've known and supported. Where's the fear, anger, and spite? It's not really the Rovers way. I know we wished for this change at our lowest ebb. But I have to ask myself whether this is really what I want. Now you do too. Is all this really a good thing for Bristol Rovers? (Three letters, first letter 'Y') We need to spare a thought for those who are running out of things to complain about. Times are desperate They are still out there, after a clean sheet and a couple of great saves yesterday some people on FB have been bemoaning the fact he doesn't leave his line enough! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2016 20:47:57 GMT
The meaning behind my opening post was simple.
DO NOT FORGET TO ENJOY IT!
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Post by markczgas on Mar 26, 2016 20:59:18 GMT
I'm not saying not progress, who wouldn't want that? I'm just hoping that the club retains its core values and builds the team around a few homegrown players like it does now. That's where the togetherness comes from. you've also got to produce the homegrown players. Occasionally one or two talents may surface but if you want a consistent chain of progression you have to invest in it. the owner says this is important - that's great. Let's hope he gives the boys the facilities and coaches they need to make it happen ! Let's also hope there is a system and way of playing that also runs through the club. The OP mentioned attractive football - I have to say DC has got the boys playing a much better style of football this season - I hope it's some kind of template for younger players to follow and aspire to ! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2016 21:18:52 GMT
Don't you remember Ray 'It's not my job to please the fans' Graydon's hoofball style? I miss seeing that narrowly avoid relegation from the football league. Just like I miss avian flu.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2016 21:32:19 GMT
Don't you remember Ray 'It's not my job to please the fans' Graydon's hoofball style? I miss seeing that narrowly avoid relegation from the football league. Just like I miss avian flu. At least it narrowly avoided relegation from the football league, though  |
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Post by markczgas on Mar 26, 2016 21:57:52 GMT
Don't you remember Ray 'It's not my job to please the fans' Graydon's hoofball style? I miss seeing that narrowly avoid relegation from the football league. Just like I miss avian flu. Ward's team 2 seasons ago was pretty awful too ! Putting players like Clarkson and Richards on the wings leaving super Chris Beardsley in the middle. |
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Post by pirate49 on Mar 26, 2016 22:26:40 GMT
Don't you remember Ray 'It's not my job to please the fans' Graydon's hoofball style? I miss seeing that narrowly avoid relegation from the football league. Just like I miss avian flu. Ward's team 2 seasons ago was pretty awful too ! Putting players like Clarkson and Richards on the wings leaving super Chris Beardsley in the middle. Chris Beardsley.....perfected the role of the decoy striker! |
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Post by Bridgeman on Mar 26, 2016 22:31:14 GMT
Don't you remember Ray 'It's not my job to please the fans' Graydon's hoofball style? I miss seeing that narrowly avoid relegation from the football league. Just like I miss avian flu. Not easy to please, are you ?  |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 26, 2016 23:57:36 GMT
Don't you remember Ray 'It's not my job to please the fans' Graydon's hoofball style? I miss seeing that narrowly avoid relegation from the football league. Just like I miss avian flu. Ward's team 2 seasons ago was pretty awful too ! Putting players like Clarkson and Richards on the wings leaving super Chris Beardsley in the middle. I thought McGhee was the worst. His team selection and recruitment set in motion a very bad period and we are very lucky to have survived that. Awful period and ridiculous man |
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Post by johnanagram on Mar 27, 2016 8:51:08 GMT
Don't you remember Ray 'It's not my job to please the fans' Graydon's hoofball style? I miss seeing that narrowly avoid relegation from the football league. Just like I miss avian flu. At least it narrowly avoided relegation from the football league, though It was Graydon that established the idea that Bristol Rovers could operate by poaching players from the fringes of the Championship or young rejects from the Premier League, at least that was the vision. The underlying message was that it really didn't matter any longer if we raised our own players or not. Ian Atkins very much continued that process and whilst he created the core of the 06/07 promotion team the die was cast and with a few rare exception Rovers became a magnet for journeymen pros paid over the top wages. We then saw a huge turnover of players as the manager's door swung like a saloon bar in the wild west and people wonder why we got in such a pickle. The low point for me was Mr Derek Riordan who I was informed was a class player......Hmmmnnnn. McGhee's appointment was arguably the worst because it quickly became apparent that he knew little about English lower league football and the players who came down from Scotland were simply not good enough. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2016 10:33:50 GMT
At least it narrowly avoided relegation from the football league, though It was Graydon that established the idea that Bristol Rovers could operate by poaching players from the fringes of the Championship or young rejects from the Premier League, at least that was the vision. The underlying message was that it really didn't matter any longer if we raised our own players or not. Ian Atkins very much continued that process and whilst he created the core of the 06/07 promotion team the die was cast and with a few rare exception Rovers became a magnet for journeymen pros paid over the top wages. We then saw a huge turnover of players as the manager's door swung like a saloon bar in the wild west and people wonder why we got in such a pickle. The low point for me was Mr Derek Riordan who I was informed was a class player......Hmmmnnnn. McGhee's appointment was arguably the worst because it quickly became apparent that he knew little about English lower league football and the players who came down from Scotland were simply not good enough. Yes, that's all true even if it does slightly perpetuate the idea that it was all the manager(s)' fault while all along the board were fiddling away like Nero. But, at least it narrowly avoided relegation to the Conference under Graydon. By the time we eventually went down 11(?) years later, so much water had gone under the bridge that blaming Graydon for any aspect of it is unfair, in my opinion. You might as well credit him with the 2008 cup run. |
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Post by Igitur on Mar 27, 2016 14:47:50 GMT
Football clubs are like shares, sometimes they go up and sometimes they go down. You have to take the long term view.
I recall meeting some fans on a train some time ago, recently promoted to the Premier, and they knew darn well they were going straight back down, but they were visiting all the grounds and having a good time.
Even at the back of our minds during some miserable seasons surely we were dreaming of better times, well they're here make the most of them.
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Post by johnanagram on Mar 27, 2016 16:07:00 GMT
It was Graydon that established the idea that Bristol Rovers could operate by poaching players from the fringes of the Championship or young rejects from the Premier League, at least that was the vision. The underlying message was that it really didn't matter any longer if we raised our own players or not. Ian Atkins very much continued that process and whilst he created the core of the 06/07 promotion team the die was cast and with a few rare exception Rovers became a magnet for journeymen pros paid over the top wages. We then saw a huge turnover of players as the manager's door swung like a saloon bar in the wild west and people wonder why we got in such a pickle. The low point for me was Mr Derek Riordan who I was informed was a class player......Hmmmnnnn. McGhee's appointment was arguably the worst because it quickly became apparent that he knew little about English lower league football and the players who came down from Scotland were simply not good enough. Yes, that's all true even if it does slightly perpetuate the idea that it was all the manager(s)' fault while all along the board were fiddling away like Nero. But, at least it narrowly avoided relegation to the Conference under Graydon. By the time we eventually went down 11(?) years later, so much water had gone under the bridge that blaming Graydon for any aspect of it is unfair, in my opinion. You might as well credit him with the 2008 cup run. Sorry I should have been clearer, there was a clear failure in the case of McGhee to check that he was sufficiently knowledgeable about the English game at the time of his appointment......Thereafter the case rests for the prosecution..... |
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Post by Igitur on Mar 29, 2016 8:33:06 GMT
Well the Carlisle game was something like the old days, travel hundreds of miles to sit in the rain, wind and cold to watch the defence and initially midfield fall apart. Now who misses them?
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